
Open Relationships vs. Monogamy
Is it just me, or are there some fundamental problems with strict monogamy? Don’t get me wrong, I’m not by any means saying we should bed every person we meet, or swap partners with all of our coupled friends - just that strict monogamy seems to do more damage than good.
Monogamy carries with it:
an unhealthy obsession with having one person to meet the majority of our needs,
a condemnation to a lack of sexual fulfillment if a person’s partner can’t perform adequately or loses their ability to do so,
a lack of variety in sexual partners possibly resulting in lost sex drive over time, and
it makes life after the first person passes away incredibly difficult for the remaining partner.
On a greater level, it condemns a possibly great new gene to extinction if the person that carries it couples with someone who has a terminal genetic issue, and it reduces the speed at which evolution occurs as there are less genetic combinations being formed... and that is just off the top of my head!
Given this pretty ugly overview of monogamy, the question then becomes why it is that just about everyone is doing it?
The first thought that comes to mind has to be tradition - but without logical reasoning, tradition does not mean much. We have many traditions due to the mental conditioning of people; an example is the stoning of people in some parts of the world who would dare insult "God" by working on the Sabbath.
The second thought has more to do with biology, together with length of infancy and development for our species. Although very few species mate for life, there are many species that mate for the duration in which their offspring are developing only, if even that. Since we take a while to "grow up" or develop, a child with more then one parent has a better chance of surviving to its own propagation than a child with only one. But the same argument is stronger for open relationships if we were to embrace each other more freely as a "herd".
The third thought is love and wanting to be together. Although love is truly a beautiful thing that most (if not all) of us could use more of, let’s discuss for a moment what type of love it is that we are experiencing in most relationships... Is it love of thy partner, or love of thy self?
Here’s an easy question to figure that one out. Let's say you are with someone who makes you happier than anyone else you’ve ever been with. After some time, you call the feeling towards them love. Some time later you meet someone of your gender that you know 100% for sure would make a better monogamous mate for your partner than you. You have the ability to introduce them, so that the person you love could find higher levels of happiness… or do you not hook them up so that you can continue getting what you want?
Since very few of the people I have polled have answered that they would sacrifice themselves, I would go so far as to say that true love is very different from this selfish concoction that most think it is!
With the exception of the very valid concern about STD transmission, the only real challenges to 'Open Relationships' are people's internal demons (greed and jealousy), and recreating the social infrastructure so that we are not so easily divided and conquered. It seems pretty simple to me that this is the way we should be going, but obviously it's a lot easier said then done; but man can move mountains, even if its one stone at a time.


























The Advice that was meant to be given on this subject
Well, I used to think this website had very good advice and opinions however the author of this article seems to of had some bad luck in the relationship department or has commitnaphobia issues or maybe is some sort of a sex fiend, who knows.
However the advice that should o been given is as follows:
There's nothing wrong with monogamous relationships. Having a relationship with someone is created by a bond, attraction, intimacy and trust. When solely finding a partner and entering a relationship,the reason for you choosing to be with that person is because you like them for who they are, you want to be with them and the obvious reasons being because you don't and didn't have that kind of connection with anyone else.
Monogamy ensures several things in a relationship... stability (feeling secure), being comfortable and trust. It also prevents some of the negative aspects that can occur when having a relationship with someone such as one of the 7 sins ENVY. Jealousy issues that green monster that dwells in everyones psyche. Psychosocial issues such as Insecurities an the effects an consequences of having them hence the feeling inadequacy.
Monogamy is all around proven to be healthier. Its a proven fact that men in relationship have more sex then single men. So if sex is what you're after then being in a relationship gets you more ass and is more of a sure thing (typically) rather than getting your ego busted from rejection. It also is healthier bc it prevents both of your chances from contracting or potentially passing along STD's, STI's, HIV and HPV.
Health is always the most important actor when being intimate with anyone. Always wear protection, and discuss it with the person you are going to be inimate with. An guys don't be stupid an ruin the moment like you often due by bringing up the topic right as you are starting to get things hot an heavy and certainly don't ask at that very moment (this question should be discussed earlier on as you are getting to know the person) "Am I going to catch anything?" or "are you clean?" or something like "You don't have any STD's do you?" If you do that you will automatically be rejected an once again your plan of getting some action will have failed you along with a busted ego.
Monogamy affects both couples emotionally, psychologically and physically. It also strengthens the over all bond you share with the person you are in a relationship with.
Typically when you like some one and really care about them you can't stand the thought of them wanting to be with someone else or doing anything with someone else. It hurts because not only do you feel unappreciated and inadequate but you feel the closeness and connection you two shared as been broken an is disappearing before your very eyes.
The mere thought that your partner could even want to be with someone else - leaves you to wonder what you did wrong, whats wrong with you, are you not pleasing them or giving your partner satisfaction, why would they want someone else to please them? All these questions become to cloud your thoughts leaving you angry, frustrated, insecure and green with envy. You've all heard the line "three's a crowd, or third wheel" this applies here.
Now as for open relationships. This is called dating. Going out with several people just to find someone you are interested in and more drawn to then the others. The whole reason for this is not just for the experience but to helps decipher what you like, what turns you on, the qualities you look for and can't stand etc... It's the stepping stone to the next level which would be a relationship (commitment, monogamy an later marriage).
Now the number one rule of dating an a "open relationship" as you call it is communication. Always be open, no pun intended, with whoever you are with. They have a right to know how you feel and know whether or not seeing you will eventually go anywhere relationship wise. All the people you're dating should be informed BEFORE you even start to date or just when you start that they aren't the only one you are seeing. This not only promotes moral character and honesty but builds a trust between who you are involved with. It also shows respect for not only yourself but more importantly the person you are pursuing. People are not objects, they are not solely here for your entertainment or pleasure, so they shouldn't be treated as such, especially women.
By being honest an straight forward in the beginning it can create a security between you to. It prevents jealousy from occurring or creating "bitch-fit/psycho girl tantrums" or histrionic destructive patterns an well the wrath of a scorned lover. Men also talk about that one"psycho ex girlfriend, or crazy bitch they dated" well why do you think some of that ends up that way? An women always vent to their friends about that "one asshole they dated, or getting used or how much of a player he was." It usually creates a more mess then needed.
Like mentioned above telling the person before hand prevents the people involved from the mere feelings of being "used" or "played." Psychologically it being open and honest with them about dating an who you might also be seeing helps both of the people involved make the correct decisions preventing future regrets.
Many times a guy keeps "his open relationship status" to himself and it automatically sets you off in the opposite direction. Leading someone one is a form of deception, treason, betrayal, unmoral and with material items we call it false advertisement which happens to actually be illegal.
Men, you set yourself up to get bitched at, called a player, willingly able to hurt another person, talked and gossiped about in the most belittling of ways,and a busted EGO. A girl unknowingly, more often than not will give herself to a man thinking a commitment of some sort is in the mere future only to later find by his selfishness, lack of respect and miscommunication (by not being straight forward) that she regrets becoming so involved or attached. She puts her heart out there an then it gets abused/mistreated inevitably creating further trust issues. As if the world isn't a corrupt unmoral place as it is. Why contribute to its destructive components especially one that is supposed to be one of the most beautiful aspects life has to offer.
However if you happen to be in a commitment and are pondering a threesome or are "swingers" that's a whole different topic.
But for the best advise on that topic you can go here
http://www.sexinfo101.com/as_threesomes.shtml
Its the best advice I have read on the topic so far.
-NP
are you kidding me?
*Studies have CONSISTENTLY shown that sexual satisfaction decreases with each sexual partner you have. The more partners you have, the less satisfied you are likely to be in your sex life.
*The entire list assumes that you are treating your sex partner as a simple sex object. There is no such thing as sexual "needs". If you do not have sex whenever you want to, your testicles will not explode. I promise.
*STDs.
*98% of the time, it ends up hurting the family.
*"an unhealthy obsession with having one person to meet the majority of our needs": What does that mean? To draw a somewhat disturbing example, is it inherently unhealthy for an infant to rely solely on it's mother for food? No. So I don't see why relying on only one person for one's sexual fulfillment is assumed to be automatically unhealthy either.
*"Let's say you are with someone who makes you happier than anyone else you’ve ever been with...Some time later you meet someone of your gender that you know 100% for sure would make a better monogamous mate for your partner than you." Idiot. Good relationships are not instantly created. There is no moment when you look deeply into some stranger's eyes and in a moment know exactly how to get along with each other. GOOD relationships are built over time, by people that are 100% committed to making their relationship work.
If you want to look at the facts, open relationships have decreased in frequency dramatically from the 1970's, when they were introduced. Why? Because they do not work. Be a little less selfish, and think about your family and your society more, and whine about your sexual "needs" a little less.
Hmm, though I'm polyamorous
Hmm, though I'm polyamorous and definitely not monogamous, I know there are a lot of people who are basically monogamous.
I found the article fairly anti-monogamy. Just as I wouldn't wish to be attacked for who I am, I dislike it when others are denigrated for whom they are.
Flawed article
While I usually enjoy reading and agree with the articles on this website I can't help but feel that this one is out of place. I don't know why it bashes monogamy as a way of life, or why it takes a very bias view of the facts, but it's clear to me that the author has not really done any research.
First of all the author makes it sound like marriage is only about sex by stressing how restrictive it is to have only one partner, but the bottom line is that marriage is about raising children. If you don't want children, don't get married and by all means have all of the sexual partners you want. But if you think having a "herd" like social structure is better than two parents raising their kids, you should compare kids from a happy nuclear family with children raised in an orphanage. Look at the statistics, which do better in school? Which have better careers? Which get into more trouble?
You see, it's not enough to get a vast array of "genetic recombination." We aren't just genes randomly mixing together. You have to raise that "jumble of genes" into a self-sufficient adult that can then go on and mate and thus propagate his/her own genes into the gene pool. It's not just nature but also nurture that plays a large roll in development and survival.
Also, in a "herd" society, there is usually only one Alpha male that mates with all of the females. It is this "supreme being" that has such good survival genes that it is the only one who's genes deserve to be passed on to the next generation. Do you really think this will provide more "genetic variation" than a bunch of monogamous relationships?
Humans are not the only creatures that do not want to raise the offspring of another. Most male animals kill any offspring that is not their own. Do you really think humans will be able to care lovingly for children that they have no relation to? Ever hear of the greedy gene theory? You should look it up. If that doesn't convince you, I ask you, if you had a child with your partner, how would you like someone else being a parent figure to your child? How would you like to be forced to take care of a child that is not yours? It costs not only time, but money too. Children are not cheap, how would you feel if you had to spend your hard earned money to feed, cloth, and educate a child that is not your own?
So you tell me. Do you want a society where there are only a very few "elite" males that "breed" with all of the women and the offspring are cared for by strangers. Sure, works well for the ones on top, but everybody else gets screwed... and not in the good way. What if a really cool gene gets lost? Or maybe things are pretty good as they are, and it's nice to put your time, money, sweat and tears into a few precious lives that you created with the person you love and raise them as your own to be good upstanding citizens that will go on and carry the future of our species.
I disagree... its an
I disagree... its an interesting view point!
If marriage was for raising children, it wouldn't be till death do us part...
In herds, more men then the alpha male reproduce, alpha just gets first dibs.
"Do you really think humans will be able to care lovingly for children that they have no relation to?"
I'm not sure if you can, but I and many others can.
You should go back and do YOUR research...
Huh...
In order for a child to become a productive contributing member in society his/her guardian must provide for education until at least their 18th year of life. If that "child" is to increase their chance of obtaining a comfortable lifestyle and thus increase their chances of raising a child of their own, then he/she should finish 2-4 years of college or vocational school. Let's round that to 20 years total then. And people are having children later in life, so let's say that the parents were 25 when they had the kid. That means the parents would be 45 by the time the "child" is ready for independence (and I think I'm being conservative with my numbers). About half of these people's life is already over (the good half I might mention). If that's not a life-time commitment, then what is? It's the longest "childhood" of any species of animal on earth. So if you're stuck with your partner until you're 45 to raise your kid, maybe most people think they might as well stick together for another 20 years or so... after all, you get to know somebody pretty well after 20 years.
I can't imagine how having the alpha male get "first dibs" will make anything more reasonable. You might as well go back in time to the middle ages when Lords of England (the leaders of the pack) would "take first dibs" on every bride of Scotland on their wedding night. Didn't you ever watch Braveheart? That stuff really happened, and you want people to go back to that? Are you kidding? No red-blooded male will back down to that sort of society, and what you'll see is lots of killing (since we can now obtain relatively easily a very quick and efficient means of killing people we don't like... guns!) Do you want George Bush to have "first dibs" on everybody's wife? I mean, geez, I guess it works out fine for women, they get to sleep w/ the "alpha dog" but all of the vast majority of men would be left out in the cold... unless they do something about it... and believe me, they would. Maybe not vast killing sprees, but you might see accounts of rape go up. Oh yeah, that sort of thing happens in herds a lot too... well, in the whole animal kingdom if you want to keep using that comparison. I personally think humans are better than animals.
Forget people willing to care for other people's children, what about people who don't even want to take care of their own? How many single moms are out there? How many men just love 'em and leave 'em? Never looking back to see the kids they might have left behind? How many moms abandon or abort their own "children"? Can you really see a society that sees kids abandoned at police stations or dumpsters on a daily basis to turn around and do a good job raising and loving these kids? People aren't even willing to take the responsibility of raising their OWN kid. They'd rather walk away. No, they RUN away. I guess in some ways a "herd" society would be perfect for these people. They wouldn't have to take responsibility for their own actions. The elite alphas could just shove off their unwanted problems... er progeny off onto somebody else. Huh, actually, I think stuff like that happens already. We must be already in a herd society... I guess it must be working. All those happy orphans. Wow, I suddenly got the urge to watch Oliver Twist again. Can't get enough of those happy orphans in this happy herd society.
Open relationship
This site with all the comments I have passed after my hubby discovered it proves that I can make my feelings known and I really love being in an open relationship. Commenting on almost all type of experiences does not necessarily make me a slut, and also having indulged in most of them with other males/females and pulling your parner into it (in my case husband) and telling him about what i did during my workday, only increases our intimate sex life.
I am no porn star and are married for 20 years, so it shows that open relationships do work, as when we got married both of us were virgins. I only discovered my fantasies when we got married, and so did he, and with experimenting we then applied what we physically learned from other males/females to our own sex life - and got others involved as well so some of our sessions could be most fulfilling.
Lizzie
open relationship
Lizzie my wife always beats me to the draw, With any new innovation she is the first to want to experiment and our open relationship have given us much joy. Although she has this obsession to have as mentioned the sensation to swallow a lot of semen per day (which I got no objection about), any other innovation is normally by mutual consent. Anal sex is totally limited to ourselves as there are health risks involved. Any other form of sex (threesome, foursome etc are discreetly done at home).
Dave
Me and Monogamy
Just as a quick comment, I've done the monogamy/open relationship thing, and the two big reasons open relationships don't work for me are:
1) Jealousy. I'm not talking about mine. The more people you end up involved with, the more needs and whatnot you're juggling, and someone somewhere is going to get the short end of the stick. Then: drama.
2) Time. I only have so much time, and having to distribute it between multiple people has never worked out in the long run. This ends up to prioritizing my time, and to #1 where somebody gets the short end.
In the end I've found monogamy to just be simpler.
Open Relationship
I perfectly well understand your fears and agree that the choice you made suits you in your circumstances. Mine is somewhat different as I am a highly sexed woman, but I dont want to end up prostituting. My hubby found out my sex drive when we got married and after some time together we both started experimenting a bit. We kept our heads cool and afforded one another to have initially extra marital affairs, but we always divulged to one another of what other persons want in their sex lives.
After having finally agreed to take the open relationship route WE have found much pleasure in it. During my extra-marital flings, I in particular indulged in various practices which to a certain extend seemed abnormal. However with time and support from my hubby I finally mastered the art of no holds sex. Certain things like threesomes/four as well as anal preparations were introduced solely by us and things that I still enjoy with other men are still afforded to me. In the final analysis i think I'll stay in an open relationship but honesty towards my husband and from him to me are what is keeping us together sexually.
Lizz
wow
Well, I used to think this website had very good advice and opinions however the author of this article seems to of had some bad luck in the relationship department or has commitnaphobia issues or maybe is some sort of a sex fiend, who knows.
However the advice that should o been given is as follows:
There's nothing wrong with monogamous relationships. Having a relationship with someone is created by a bond, attraction, intimacy and trust. When solely finding a partner and entering a relationship,the reason for you choosing to be with that person is because you like them for who they are, you want to be with them and the obvious reasons being because you don't and didn't have that kind of connection with anyone else.
Monogamy ensures several things in a relationship... stability (feeling secure), being comfortable and trust. It also prevents some of the negative aspects that can occur when having a relationship with someone such as one of the 7 sins ENVY. Jealousy issues that green monster that dwells in everyones psyche. Psychosocial issues such as Insecurities an the effects an consequences of having them hence the feeling inadequacy.
Monogamy is all around proven to be healthier. Its a proven fact that men in relationship have more sex then single men. So if sex is what you're after then being in a relationship gets you more ass and is more of a sure thing (typically) rather than getting your ego busted from rejection. It also is healthier bc it prevents both of your chances from contracting or potentially passing along STD's, STI's, HIV and HPV.
Health is always the most important actor when being intimate with anyone. Always wear protection, and discuss it with the person you are going to be inimate with. An guys don't be stupid an ruin the moment like you often due by bringing up the topic right as you are starting to get things hot an heavy and certainly don't ask at that very moment (this question should be discussed earlier on as you are getting to know the person) "Am I going to catch anything?" or "are you clean?" or something like "You don't have any STD's do you?" If you do that you will automatically be rejected an once again your plan of getting some action will have failed you along with a busted ego.
Monogamy affects both couples emotionally, psychologically and physically. It also strengthens the over all bond you share with the person you are in a relationship with.
Typically when you like some one and really care about them you can't stand the thought of them wanting to be with someone else or doing anything with someone else. It hurts because not only do you feel unappreciated and inadequate but you feel the closeness and connection you two shared as been broken an is disappearing before your very eyes.
The mere thought that your partner could even want to be with someone else - leaves you to wonder what you did wrong, whats wrong with you, are you not pleasing them or giving your partner satisfaction, why would they want someone else to please them? All these questions become to cloud your thoughts leaving you angry, frustrated, insecure and green with envy. You've all heard the line "three's a crowd, or third wheel" this applies here.
Now as for open relationships. This is called dating. Going out with several people just to find someone you are interested in and more drawn to then the others. The whole reason for this is not just for the experience but to helps decipher what you like, what turns you on, the qualities you look for and can't stand etc... It's the stepping stone to the next level which would be a relationship (commitment, monogamy an later marriage).
Now the number one rule of dating an a "open relationship" as you call it is communication. Always be open, no pun intended, with whoever you are with. They have a right to know how you feel and know whether or not seeing you will eventually go anywhere relationship wise. All the people you're dating should be informed BEFORE you even start to date or just when you start that they aren't the only one you are seeing. This not only promotes moral character and honesty but builds a trust between who you are involved with. It also shows respect for not only yourself but more importantly the person you are pursuing. People are not objects, they are not solely here for your entertainment or pleasure, so they shouldn't be treated as such, especially women.
By being honest an straight forward in the beginning it can create a security between you to. It prevents jealousy from occurring or creating "bitch-fit/psycho girl tantrums" or histrionic destructive patterns an well the wrath of a scorned lover. Men also talk about that one"psycho ex girlfriend, or crazy bitch they dated" well why do you think some of that ends up that way? An women always vent to their friends about that "one asshole they dated, or getting used or how much of a player he was." It usually creates a more mess then needed.
Like mentioned above telling the person before hand prevents the people involved from the mere feelings of being "used" or "played." Psychologically it being open and honest with them about dating an who you might also be seeing helps both of the people involved make the correct decisions preventing future regrets.
Many times a guy keeps "his open relationship status" to himself and it automatically sets you off in the opposite direction. Leading someone one is a form of deception, treason, betrayal, unmoral and with material items we call it false advertisement which happens to actually be illegal.
Men, you set yourself up to get bitched at, called a player, willingly able to hurt another person, talked and gossiped about in the most belittling of ways,and a busted EGO. A girl unknowingly, more often than not will give herself to a man thinking a commitment of some sort is in the mere future only to later find by his selfishness, lack of respect and miscommunication (by not being straight forward) that she regrets becoming so involved or attached. She puts her heart out there an then it gets abused/mistreated inevitably creating further trust issues. As if the world isn't a corrupt unmoral place as it is. Why contribute to its destructive components especially one that is supposed to be one of the most beautiful aspects life has to offer.
However if you happen to be in a commitment and are pondering a threesome or are "swingers" that's a whole different topic.
But for the best advise on that topic you can go to the section on this site about threesomes. The advice given here is some of this sites best advice. Its nice to see the author didn't both that one up like this one.