Okay... I've had this question bouncing around my strange brain for a long time. One of the problems with it is I haven't quite figured out how to ask it. LOL
I think it's something like this: are women (in general) more passionate and sensual (make that horny if you'd like) than it generally appears? Or maybe it's: are women capable of being more passionate and sensual (make that horny if you'd like) than they generally are?
We often joke about guys being ready at a moment's notice... are women more "ready" than we usually think?
I guess I'm wondering how much "horniness" is supressed (by society, unconciously, etc.) in women. The logical follow up question is (assuming it's in there LOL), "What can a guy do to release it?"
If it's not clear from the questions, I'm not so much interested in a clinical explanation of hormones. It's more about hornyones. (I think I made that up, and yes, you can groan.)
You can keep the answer conceptual if you don't want to tell your secrets. LOL
Wally


You're right, Duckie, you have been gone too long! We love you and miss you! Now, are you feeling loved? LOL
This has become such an interesting thread! Thanks to all the ladies who are sharing so openly!
Wow Wally,
I've been gone too long. lol
I would say that women are definately hornier than they appear. For me emotions are definately tied into it. I've learned over the years and so too has my hubby that I need to feel loved and shown that I'm loved. I definately don't respond to lets go to the bedroom for a quickie or you wanna have sex. Because I will shut down and will not be interested at all. I think it's amazing how we can just shut down just at the drop of a dime.... So yes I have to be in the mood and keep in that mood. Then look out world, I can't get enough.
I do have to agree with alot of what Tease and Tessie both said I think they hit the nail on the head.
Duckie
Glad you like my answer. I'd like to hear what other women have to say about this as well.
Wally, I read something interesting a while back. Pretty much this article said that the more women have sex, the more they are thinking about it and wanting it. However, the more men have sex, the less they are wanting it. The article said that based on some study that in order to keep women interested in sex (horny) she needs to be doing it on a fairly regular basis, otherwise (according to this study) the woman will lose interest and have a harder time becoming aroused.
Addressing your original question.... Seems to me that it is all a matter of social acceptance (this is just how I see it). Meaning if you have a guy who sleeps with a lot of different girls, he really isn't looked down on...not as much as if a girl did the same thing anyway. I think society just has that view that "good" girls don't behave that way...the usual B.S. I think that can have more of an affect on the way women behave than we might think...but then again, this is just my take on things.
well if women were as horny as guys, their would be overpopulation, we have enough people as it is lol
. Instincts, deep in our minds, from back in the day are still inside of guys, because child death was an almost normal thing, families would have 10 kids and 3 would survive and stuff like that.
I think a lot of women are hornier than they may appear but how it's expressed depends on their culture/background and how well they are in touch with themselves.
My female friends and I all have pretty high sex drives. We're all in our late 20's and some of us behave 'as men', hunting for 'a toy', monogamous, or polyamorous, we all have found ways to express our horniness.
There's not too much 'a guy' can do to release it but to be himself.
it has to be a friend/boyfriend, someone I'm comfortable around that can release the beast.
WooHoo, Mspersia! LOl
Since there seem to be a few new ladies about, I thought I'd bump this up and see if we have more thoughts... is anyone keeping track? LOL
I think many women are hornier than they appear. Many women are just as horny as men but men don't realize that because they think that a woman as horny as they are should be out seeking sex with any man that she meets. Regardless of how horny a woman is, she may still be selective. I was celibate for over two years after I first began having sex and there were times when I was so horny that I thought I would burst but that didn't mean I was out accepting advances of horny men that I had no emotional attachment to. Physical attraction alone is not enough for many women.
For the longest time now I felt no sexual desire at all and it was making me miserable. I found out that I had low testosterone and a few other hormonal abnormalities. I have not yet remedied the situation with medication but I'm dating a new guy and now suddenly I'm horny as hell again! I'm thinking that maybe with my old boyfriend the spark was just gone and was making me have a lack of desire even when I was by myself. It's very strange to me how it all worked out. There are ways that men can make their women hornier and what will work depends on the individual woman.
For me, it's being with a man that I am extremely attracted to and that I have a great connection with. In the past, there was always some degree of attraction to my ex boyfriends but not enough that I really wanted to have sex with them all the time. I was "settling" and dating guys that I did not have a strong attraction for simply because they were nice guys that treated me great but that's not enough to make me want to have sex. Now with my current man, there is this great animalistic, passionate drive in me that can't be stopped! It's clear to me now that I'm a very visual person and the physical attraction has to be maximal for me to be horny.
In order for me to ACT on my horniness, I need to be in a relationship with a man I trust and I have to be sure that that man is 100% all about me. Once I have that security, then it's on! I can't ever get involved sexually with a man I don't know or a man I'm "just dating" casually no matter horny I may me. If all the planets are in alignment (physical attraction, great connection, strong, secure relationship) then I want sex all of the time. I can hardly look at my man without wanting to push him against the wall and suck his dick or jump on him and ride him. Now that I know what it's like to be with a man that I'm 100% attracted to, I'm wanting to do things that I've never done before like strip for my man, do it in public places, etc. I guess it just takes the right man to bring out a woman's inner freak!
[QUOTE=Quote (Tessie @ July 10 2004,15:53)]I will also say that for a woman to be sensual and passionate she needs to spend time thinking of herself that way and doing stuff that brings her horny nature to the surface. I spend time thinking about sex and what I like and would like to try. Like everything in life you have to fully understand the subject to get the most out of it.[/QUOTE]
Wow. I think that is one of the most powerful paragraphs ever posted here. (And yes, I am trying to fully understand the subject. LOL)
We would, of course, be in serious trouble if women were as horny and "quick" as men. LOL But it does sometimes seem that some of women's desire for sex is unnecessarily and perhaps unconciously suppressed.
So on the one hand women (I know, all generalities are false) need to be "seduced." But on the other hand, Victoria's Secret seems to sell a ton of merchandise. Who's wearing it? LOL My point with the example is that I secretly hope it's not women who are only trying to please their man, it's women who want to look and feel sexy.
It's so much more fun to make love to a woman who wants to be loved. It's probably a keen grasp of the obvious unless you think deeply about it, but it's so much more fun to have sex and be passionate with a woman who wants to have passionate sex.
Coy is cute, but raw lust is hot. LOL
Wally
I think I'm usually even hornier than most of the men I date or was married to. lol. I could definitely do it every day, even if it was a quickie in the shower or something before work.
Seeing different things can make me instantly horny, but that doesn't mean I always act on it. Sadly enough, I don't act on my horniness enough when I'm ready to go, for fear of rejection. I got that little trait from the years I spent with my warped ex husband.
oh well. I was a virgin when I met him and after I experienced it, I wanted it often! He did not. He told me he had done it so much that it wasn't a big deal to him. I only wanted it because it was new. It was quite frustrating. Couldn't understand why he turned me onto it, if he didn't need it all the time like I did.
Of course, women also crave the closeness sex provides. Skin on skin contact, the kissing, the merging of two people in a very intimate way. But we don't always have to "complete" the act to have a nice sense of satisfaction. I'm happy sometimes with just kissing and touching and falling asleep together, too.
I would probably say, it all depends on the girl. For instance, tkae my mother (oooh, I do hope I didn't kill anyone's libido yet) She's the kind of woman that could live without it her whole life. Me on the other hand, I can wear a guy out, easily, to the point that he'll be begging for me to give him a break
So see, all depends on the girl.
i'm a combo of both really.
i like the passion. i like to be worked up.
i know that i generally have to be worked up or you're going to have a heck of a time trying to get it into me because i'm not wet enough.
but there are times, like now, where i swear i could pounce anything that moves.
my prime times are right before that montly cycle and right after...and i'm currently on the latter.
but whether or not i'm in my prime... i still like to be touched. a lot.
hey, i'm 23. i'm horny. i'm not afraid to admit it. lol.
my guy may be 40, but at any time, he's ready.
he likes that i'm always willing and ready and i like that he's the same way.
it's just a matter of when we're able to get together that poses the problem.
Interesting question Wally.
Are women more horny then they appear to be? In many cases I would say yes. I think as a woman we are taught not to let our passionate or sensual side show for fear of being considered a slut or like a man. We expect men to be horny all the time but we women are somehow to be above our lust and desire.
Yes we are capable of being more horny if we are given that opportunity to show that side of us. But I think for most women they have to be in an environment with a lot of trust so they can fully express their sexuality.
I know for me to really feel horny I have to be thought of as desirable to my man. He needs to appeal to my emotions and my heart first. For me to be at my best I need to feel loved and sexy.
I have just recently learned that I really like the slow build of exploring my body with my partner. I want to be kissed and touched everywhere. I want to feel the passion that is within me rising to the surface and consuming my whole body.
It is also so very important for the man to fully know his woman and what works for her. That takes communication and his desire to learn. You have to read her body language and let that guide you.
I know for me that very light touches on my body with lots soft kisses and whispers of words of love help me to get very wet and allows my passion to rise until I am ready to explode in pleasure.
I will also say that for a woman to be sensual and passionate she needs to spend time thinking of herself that way and doing stuff that brings her horny nature to the surface. I spend time thinking about sex and what I like and would like to try. Like everything in life you have to fully understand the subject to get the most out of it.
Female response is a bit more constrained biologically and socially. The male biological drive is to "spread the seed." After all, sperm are constantly being manufactured and there is an unending supply with great physical need to "share."
We women have a finite supply of eggs with which we are born. And our bodies limit their distribution. Darwinian theory about improving the specie has the male spreading and the female being selective. Coquettishness, then, is partially biologically determined.
Our drive is also affected by the menstrual cycle. Unlike other animals, we human females are capable of orgasm any time in the cycle - not just during estrus - but we are most receptive during our fertile periods. The mix of hormones at that point causes us to become aroused more readily and lubrication is at its highest. Those of us who seek sex during our periods, however, are in the minority. There will shortly be a piece on menstrual sex in Chick Chat.
The social dimension hangs on from the days of women being chattel - owned by the husband. He certainly did not want responsibility for some else's brat and penalty for female adultery was very high. Stoning, branding, being driven away all have been practiced.
Additionally, women wanted to limit their children for the very reason that maternal death rate was high prior to about 1900. Pregnancy in those days took a terrible toll on the body whether or not the woman lived through childbirth.
No matter how you approach it, unwanted pregnancy remains a higher risk with a higher price for women than for men.
[QUOTE=Quote (WallyLlama @ July 10 2004,04:06)]I'm not so much interested in a clinical explanation of hormones. It's more about hornyones.[/QUOTE]
lmao
i like that, of course wally you would be the one to invent such a word
for me, it doesn't seem like im that much of a passionate person.
its rare that im just so horny im attacking my b/f. though im sure he wishes i would.
he's ready for sex just about anytime of day.
usually, its not until we actually start foreplay and stuff that i get horny.
i guess im backwards...lol.