[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I was reading a post by someone and she mentioned something that I found interesting. It was along the lines that she was more likely to have multiple orgasms with a female partner rather then a male. So this is the question I pose, do women make better lovers then men in general. I pose this question to all who have had experiences with both genders. I have my own opinions on the issue but I have not had that much experience so I would like to hear what others think[/SIZE][/FONT]
Fri, 08/29/2008 - 05:58
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Who makes a better lover?


As a straight woman, who has never been with nor has had a desire to be with another woman I would say a male. As I am sure men who are homosexual would also say.
The woman that I know, and have discussed numerous topics with have said that the woman, often said to be the softer of the two sexes, and often have a better smell. Also they say that because they are also a woman they understand the female better and are able to use that during sex to fulfill the wants of the other woman with less explaination.
"More likely" is probably due to the fact that women share the same anatomy and are more likely to know how everything works down there just as you'd say someone is 'more likely' to accomplish something with more knowledge.
That was a post of mine in which I said I am more likely to be multi-orgasmic with another woman than with a man. The long term members of this Board are aware that I have been actively bi-sexual since my mid-teens. Generally, I lived periods as a lesbian and other times as a heterosexual. After a critical death in my life, my fiance, I was asexual for a year or so and ever since have had a primary relationship with another bi- woman and we have guidelines to allow each of us some penis time.
"Better lovers than men in general." Well, maybe. Certainly different lovers. My experience has been that men tend to be genital focused and require orgasm for satisfaction. This is not criticism but simply reality that I understand. Women tend to be more focused on the route to getting there and orgasm is a bonus. Women lovers tend to be more relaxed and intuitive while men tend to be driven and focused. Women, intuitively, read and understand the other better. Men filter what they are seeing in their partner through their male senses. Women, through their female senses. We understand better how our partner's body works and sense when to move on or linger.
I, generally, appreciate making love with women more. There are times, though, when a man cannot be replaced. There is no feeling in the world like a real penis in me. This is pure physical joy. There is a great satisfaction in receiving the little deposit a man leaves behind. This is psychological in performing what nature intends us to do with our vaginas - extract and retain semen.
So, I will not say "better." I will say more relaxed, less controlled, with less focus and accepting of whatever happens. Que sera, sera, Sera!
OK, with 20 minutes thought, I will add to the above. Two people here are aware, through PMs, that I have recently had a liaison of a couple months with a transgendered woman. She is relatively new to this area. I discovered her transgendered state quite accidentally when she required some medical care. She went through some rough spots in ending a marriage while Eva and I were in some rough spots. She will be leaving this area in the next few weeks. She was a heterosexual male before her transition and has been a heterosexual female since her transition - with limited sexual experience.
Her love making is, in many ways, more male than female. She retains the genital focus and the imperative of orgasm for the experience to have been real and satisfying. She does say she has learned to be a bit more passive and accepting than she had as a male. In just two months of sexual activity, she has become even more female than the first times we were together. She began life, and his, then, sex life with the hormones and body of a male.She had learned to deal with the world as a male. She is still in the process of learning to deal with the world, and men and women, as a woman. The only role model for how a woman acts in sex has been me. That has been against a backdrop of more of a male's sex life than a female's sex life.
Is she man or woman? She is living life as a woman - quite successfully. She really appreciates being a woman. Perhaps, even more than those of us who are genetically female. Because sex is conducted, usually, in private, she has limited opportunity to learn how to be a woman in sex. My suspicion is that this is appealing to men because she acts a bit more like they do in bed and has the instinctive understanding of what is going on in her (male) partner's body.
I recently set her up with a male whom I know to be a wonderful lover. I do not know whether she will continue to be bi-, become lesbian or remain straight. Those are decisions she must make and I shall not be around for that pert of her 35 yo life.
I have gotten great insight into male-female differences in love-making from her and, she expresses, she has learned more about being a receptive female from me.
For what it is worth.
[COLOR=black][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Brandy that is a very interesting prospective on it, I am glad you shared that story. Yes, you are the one I was referencing to, I just did not want to use your name with out permission incase I was taking it out of context. Personally I have only slept with one guy (I don’t like anal but we did everything else), and it was not that good. A long story short, I made him cum and he did not reciprocate. This was only one experience so I can’t make a generalization but that was my experience. From what I gathered from my female friends, this is quite common for guys to do to them. So although I am attracted to both genders I feel the sex is a lot more fun with a woman. [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
Sorry I missed the thread...was not on-line at the time, Brandye! Have to ask though if born a male does that in ways ethically put you with a man?
Much noticed though among men there are many who are skilled and those who are not. Sadly, too many go through their lives with just the typical male approach and lack erotica! I have noticed this one point & as people know I am straight--an acceptable lover is a man who knows what to do or is receptive to trying.
It kills me to see those out there who are 40+ & still think the "Wham-bam" technique is new! And Mr. St. There are quite a few men [straight/or not] who think the partner is there strictly to please them.
NO
Some women and some men are just poor lovers. No one gender has the lock on poor performance, etc.
I have no desire for women and therefore would much rather drink a V8 than have sex with a woman. Any woman wishing to do anything with me will have to delegate that to the nearest suitable male. Thank you.
The men who get with me soon learn how to improve their attitude, behavior, and performance. Or else!!
Ethically with a male? Intersting question. She has breasts that most women envy and I had known her through bicycling (including open shower and dressing rooms) for months. Had she not needed some very specific medical assistance, I would never have known.
Saint: you were short-changed. Ask any woman here and she will say she has been as well. No big deal just one name to take off the date list.
[COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]It just never happened to me before. The first and only time I slept with a guy, I get short-changed. I have never had a woman do that to me, it sucks.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
Brandye, I want to offer my condolences on the loss of your fiance, that must of been an awful time in your life. just my thoughts.
[quote=Brandye;222381]Ethically with a male? Intersting question. She has breasts that most women envy and I had known her through bicycling (including open shower and dressing rooms) for months. Had she not needed some very specific medical assistance, I would never have known.
Saint: you were short-changed. Ask any woman here and she will say she has been as well. No big deal just one name to take off the date list.[/quote] Raises the question despite the female qualities yet has a more masculine form of making love. I ask since have not encountered the situation to ask with my friends who are bi or gay.
I understand the inner female with the male body; however, does the mentality FULLY change & forever? I know the screening process and lifestyle prior to such change but does it fully change throughout ones lifetime?
I really do not know. Bobbie has made the transition remarkably well (I think; she is the only transgender I have ever known). Acting lessons, ballet, voice training all in addition to the required surgeries and some bone trimming in the face.
I do see some masculine characteristics, now that I know, in her walking and cycling and love-meking. I do believe that the love making is a learned behavior to a degree and she is quite feminine when she gets away from the genital focus. Her orgasdms, for instance, are quite female leaving her with a great sensitivity that requires a bit of a pause.
I have had "butch" partners who seem more male than female in this as well. Among lesbian or bi- friends, we do sometimes discuss this topic and I am not the only one with the observation about the differences between men and women - and about masculine female partners.
I can see; I would not just come out and ask friends what their experiences were sexually...ask if they have the same as heterosexuals. Not good dinner conversation!
We get the same though...some guys just are not skilled. Nor do they wish to learn how to use their "tools".