There has been another increase in comments, questions and questionable information regarding both the G-Spot and female ejaculation. This post is simply what the medical profession knows, does not know and thinks is correct. Both of these are rather sophisticated and misunderstood concepts. I am, in no sense, arguing for or against any position on the existence of the G-Spot and the reality of female ejaculation.
To follow what is said here, it would be helpful to have a diagram of the female reproductive organs. Search for “female reproductive system” and print the two diagrams or pictures you find – the external and the internal. The internal will be a cross-sectional or “cutaway” view. Women, grab a mirror and follow along on yourself. Men, you are stuck with the picture unless you have a cooperative friend who will allow you to poke around a bit. From the top to the bottom will be shown the mons veneris, separation in the vulva, clitoral hood, clitoris, outer lips, inner lips, urethral opening, vaginal entrance and the anus. The internal view will add bladder, vagina, cervix, uterus, fallopian tubes, and ovaries. Those items excluded on most diagrams are Glands of Bartholin, Skene’s Glands, and the G-Spot, itself. On the Wikipedia entry on Skene’s Glands, the G-Spot is shown on the posterior (back) wall of the vagina; it is believed to exist on the anterior (front) wall. No one has ever suggested it to be where Wikipedia shows it.
There are huge amounts of anecdotal data supporting the ability of some women to ejaculate (squirt) and the sensitivity of the G-Spot. Some of these reports go back to ancient Greece. Many, if not most, professionals accept that there is some reality to both phenomena. We also know that comparatively few, certainly well less than half, of women report ejaculating or having experienced G-Spot stimulation. So, what do the three things often omitted from the diagrams amount to?
The Glands of Bartholin are “para-vaginal” glands with openings slightly below and to either side of the vaginal opening. They secrete a thick waxy fluid. For a very long time, they were thought to provide lubrication for the vagina. Some references still describe them as lubricating glands. However, neither the amount nor the viscous nature of the excretion could serve this purpose. Some people also cited these glands as the source of female ejaculatory fluid. Again, they cannot provide the volume usually reported in ejaculation. No one knows exactly what their purpose is. The best theories revolve around pheromones –sexually attractive smells to attract males. All female mammals have them and the incidence of sniffing and licking observed among many animals are likely the males checking to see if the female is receptive. Most female mammals are receptive (and capable of orgasm) only during estrus – when they are “in heat.” These glands would have a characteristic smell when the female is willing to allow sex. The “homologue,” or equivalent, in the male is the Cowper’s Gland which provides the fluid commonly referred to as “pre-cum.”
You may or may not be able to see the gland openings in the mirror. Look inside the inner lips just behind and on either side of your vaginal opening. You will not be able to feel them unless they are inflamed in some way. When you have a gyn exam, the pinch that the doctor does in this area is checking for cysts. Not common. They seem to no longer serve any useful purpose. Human women are able to reach orgasm and are willing to engage in sex other than when they are fertile. Like the coccyx, or tail-bone, we have a vestigial holdover from evolution. The secretion of the Cowper’s Gland in men is believed to lubricate the urethra to allow the semen to slide more efficiently. Only a few decades ago there was a different explanation. Some references continue to suggest that the purpose is to neutralize the acidic environment to allow sperm to live in the urethra. The Glands of Bartholin probably do not figure in our sexual response. We simply have them because “they have always been there.”
Skene’s Glands are a different story. They are “para-urethral” and their openings are traditionally shown on either side of the urethral opening. Again, you may or not be able to see them in the mirror. Only in the last few decades has it been known that some women have other openings into the interior urethra. These openings can only be seen during autopsy. Some women appear to have undetectable Skene’s Glands; some have very extensive and large ones. They are located “behind” what is usually identified as the G-Spot. Their homologue in the male is the prostate. The prostate actually manufactures semen and dumps it, during sexual arousal, into the urethra. The Skene’s Glands may do the same and some researchers have identified some similarity between the female ejaculatory fluid and semen. The Skene’s Glands, as the Glands of Bartholin, serve no purpose in reproduction, so nature really does not care whether we have them or not. These, too, may fall to evolution over the next thousands of years.
In some women, these glands are quite extensive, spongy and appear capable of holding a noticeable quantity of fluid. In other women they are not identifiable. They are located beside and around the urethra behind the supposed location of the G-Spot. This could explain some people describing the G-Spot as either “spongy” or “rough”. Eva and I are each quite “smooth.” The Skene’s glands could be felt through the vaginal wall. This may also explain the urge to pee during G-Spot stimulation. While Eva and I were searching, we spent much time running back and forth to the loo with little results. The stimulation was irritating the urethra, itself, and could be pressing small amounts of fluid from the glands into the urethra, giving that urge. This implies, of course, that the Skene’s glands do produce some fluid. How much is not known but is suspected to vary as much as the size of the Glands among women.
What is the answer? There is none and those who try to give an answer are doing a disservice to all women. We, in medicine, generally believe that some women do ejaculate and some do not – perhaps cannot – depending upon the development of these glands. Whether or not there is a direct relationship between the G-Spot and ejaculation cannot be explained. Some women ejaculate during orgasm but have never reached orgasm through G-Spot stimulation; others (such as I) can reach orgasm through G-Spot stimulation but have never ejaculated.
For several years I have asked patients about “excess fluid” during orgasm. About ten percent have said yes, some with great embarrassment; most have said no and many are quite evasive or admit that they have never experienced orgasm. My conclusion is that some have and some not; some can and some cannot; most really do not know. For those starting on their sexual journey, G-Spots and squirts should be addressed way down the road. Sexual response, especially in women, is so complex and misunderstood that there is much learning to be done before any advanced stuff should be forced.
That was very clear and both informed and informative.
Seems to me it would make a good "sticky" (in the bulletin board sense, I mean). But what do I know?
I produce excessive amount of fluid the bed is soaked. It takes three day for it to dry. I know it is not urine, smells of nothing.
Lovely,
I have reviewed your posts and they really do not hang together. Reads like you are making things up in response to threads you join with.
I have to agree because to me it makes absolutely no sense that all the information shared by this user would all be true... Unless they have some kind of split personality disorder.
this topic is one that I myself have racked my brain over for many many hours... i know that my girlfriend does produce vast amounts of fluid... especially after orgasm.... and i was hoping to learn more by reading into this thread but it seems I am doomed to never know about all this for sure...
Le sigh...
my girlfriend gets a peeing sensation during intercourse sometimes...does that mean im hitting her Gspot? my penis bends downwards a but so in the doggy style position I seem to it this spot that gives her this sensation...is that her Gspot and will she explode if she lets that go?
Please search this topic on this site first and READ the threads on g-spot as well as the sticky's. Then redirect your answer.
Sorry I wasnt able to find anything. I'm new to the site....is there anyway of showing me the link or answering my question?
Thank you
Well basically you are posting in one of the threads mentioned to read
Here is the LINK to "gspot" search of threads on this site.... should find threads that are similar to yours.
"Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms."
The pee sensation is generally it.. but nerves kick in and frequently heard is
"i need to pee"
Tell her to relax.. worked fer me.
Just read the initial page on this thread....we are already on it.
http://www.sexinfo101.com/forum/pleasing_her/19807-what_we_know_g-spot_e...
Is there anything else in a girl that feels like a hard mound and could be mistaken for the g-spot?
Cervix maybe?
how can one please a harsh wife
any member online
seems no one is on line
I am a woman who ejaculates quite a bit during sexual play. Lately I am at a loss about how to handle the "sheet" problem. Waterproof matress protectors tend to make my partner and I sweat in sleep, and I don't own a washing machine so I can't do laundry daily. I'm worried that I'm ruining my comfy pillow top matress. Though my squirts don't have much odor my bed is starting to get a little funky:( Any ideas of good products or tactics.
Thanks!!
[quote=Razzy;191927]I am a woman who ejaculates quite a bit during sexual play. Lately I am at a loss about how to handle the "sheet" problem. Waterproof matress protectors tend to make my partner and I sweat in sleep, and I don't own a washing machine so I can't do laundry daily. I'm worried that I'm ruining my comfy pillow top matress. Though my squirts don't have much odor my bed is starting to get a little funky:( Any ideas of good products or tactics.
Thanks!![/quote]
Put some towels under you.
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I've tried to find my G-spot and haven't yet ...still having a blast trying, though! Anyway, I've discovered that the only time I squirt all over and repeated over and over is when my husband cups his hand over my whole ****, usually with his middle finger on my clit and rubs it all up and down really fast. It's instant melting for me. I just fall apart, legs give out and I cum all over the place. I highly recommend trying it anyway. It might work for other women. Maybe my G-spot is on the outside of me somewhere?! I'm just thrilled to have a husband who totally gets off on me getting off. Good luck!
Most of my partners have experienced female ejaculation during coitus, some more frequently than others. One even experienced it during cunnilingus. From personal observation and talking with my partners as well as published scientific information we have come to the conclusion that female ejaculation is basically undistinguishable from urine. So far I have not read anything from the scientific community that states that it IS urine, but I am not afraid to make that statement. I have absolutely no qualms about admitting it.
I like knowing that I am able to **** the piss out of a woman, and that's what I plan to do when wifey gets home!
i had been reading lotsa infos here regarding g-spot and my guy and i
are now exploring under the sea....
thankx everyone for some infos....
never bothered to catch any in a container, but colorless to very light yellow, like urine.
G-spot stimulation can involve the Skeens glans and it is believed that these evolve from the same tissue as the Prostate. The ejaculate should be clear or slightly cloudy.
As for the urge to pee. This is often a false signal that can best be ignored particularly if you empty your bladder beforehand. Just push through that urge and enjoy your orgasm. This happens quite a lot in women who are just learning to masturbate and once they make the connections from the nerves in the clitoris and the pleasure center of the brain, the urge generally goes away. Unless or until it does, just continue on and you'll find your orgasm on the other side.
Ok, so how do you know the difference between ejaculatory fluid and pee? My pee is quite light colored and doesn't really have a strong smell because I drink quite a lot of water and because of my eating habits. I think I may have ejaculated during g-spot stimulation once but I really couldn't tell...I get such a strong urge to pee during stimulation. I just wasn't able to tell for sure what it was the came out. Anyone who has experienced female ejaculation have any info on what the fluid is actually like?
I am not a squirter, nor have any of my female partners experienced female ejaculation. In fact no woman with whom I am close enough to discuss these things has experienced ejaculation. That does not mean it is not real; it simply indicates that many of us do ejaculate.
Doc cites the currently accepted medical theory (there are others) that the Skene's glands are the source of female ejaculate. The stuff I have read on the subject makes a point that female ejaculate does not smell like urine. This would make sense if the source is Skene's. In many women the Skene's glands are "peri-urethral""
meaning their openings are located beside the urethral opening. It is also known that some women have additional openings into the urethra between the bladder and the outside. This would mean that the ejaculate does travel a short distane in the urethra. It also opens the possibility that in some the ejaculate is a mixture of Skene's ejaculate and urine. We really have more medical questions than answers on female ejaculation.
As for the urge to pee: Stimulation of what is called the G-Spot is pressing against the anterior wall (front side) of the vagina a few centimeters inside. This means that stimulating the G-Spot is also pressing against the urethra and squeezing and releasing the channel for urine to leave the body. This, predictably, creates the urge to pee. Most women who do have their G-Spot located experience the urge commonly and frequently during the exploratory stage. My g/f and I have located ours in one another but the search was long and resulted in each of us runnung to the WC many times during exploration. And we are each well schooled on that part of the body.
Most women do embarassingly experience the release of of other body fluids during sex a time or so during their lives. Gas from the rectum and urine are the two biggies. We are usually terribly embarassed but that is how we are put together and all the muscles on our nether region are involved in sexual response.
I and many other women in my social circle, do know exactly where our G-Spots are and we do ejaculate.
The vagina is an open environment and certain secretions are necessary to ensure its continued good health. Brandye can help with this part, but this is my understanding. Female ejaculate is the more of less uncontrolled release of these secretions in response to stimulation. The flexing of the muscles in sexual response combined with the pressure of the partner's hand or penis, or toy and there you have it.
The 'urge to urinate' is the key point. Most women are far too embarassed to ask or to release at this point so they stop, not knowing that a huge orgasm is waiting for them if they simply relaxed and let it come. And some of their partners have no idea how to assist.
According to one of my men who is a master of the art. Feel gently on the roof of the vagina for a soft spongy area that has 'goosebumps' or a kind of 'washboard' feel that gets increasingly 'goosebumped' or 'washboarded' as her excitement mounts. Using a palm upwards fingertips curled up posture press gently upward while also moving your entire hand back and forth. Caress and softly murmur encouraging words and keep at it, varying the pressure until you find the amount that works for her. Increase your speed slightly until she does ejaculate. After she ejaculates, wrap her in your strong arms and give her big bear hugs and cuddles.
Be advised that these kinds of orgasms tend to invigorate women. She will want more.
Spot on, Evil. I have read and had the rough spot description many times. Eva and I located one another's long ago and do regular manipulation but neiother of us has the rough patch. Message: these things differ woman to woman.
The secretions of the vagina have two sources. The uterus (menstrual flow, mainly) and through the vaginal walls similar to sweating. The believed source of ejaculation, Skene's gland, have their openings into the urethra or beside the urethral opening.
I agree that women's embarassment affects our sexual enjoyment. How often do we want to release some air but do not and, thereby, prevent our own orgasm? I have. With woman love we tend to be more open than with men. But, then, two women are sticking anything important into one another.
I think Evil is saying relax - as did Doc. No orgasm is possible if we do not learn to let go. And if the bed gets wet, change the damned sheets.
I think the major fear here is the embarassment of pissing all over your significant other...whether one actually will or not, never know till you try, and if I'm understanding you all correctly, you probably aren't going to actually piss on him ? Though I think some women are just as embarassed by the idea of ejaculation as well. But perhaps discussing this with one's SO and having them be supportive of it and just kind of saying "well, whatever happens, happens and thats fine, its not going to gross me out or make me not want you anymore, so you can relax" would help a lot of women to just let go.
So this is why I can't hold in the ejaculate anymore....the nerve connections must have done their switcheroo as Doc was saying. The first few times I came close to ejaculating I felt the peeing sensation, got nervous, and held it. But lately I don't even get the peeing sensation anymore-it just lets loose. This makes sense now. Thanks.
IT IS NOT URINE!!
How many times do we have to say it??!?
Duh. Chill. It feels like it though. Or for me, it used to anyway. Hence the reference to a sensation akin to it.
yes, we are aware that actual ejaculation is not urine.. however, the accompanying sensation is quite convincing of otherwise.. and I do know someone who actually did pee during sex when she finally tried to let go (though she probably wouldn't have had she emptied her bladder beforehand) I really don't think its an unreasonable fear... and there are plenty of guys who wouldn't recognize female ejaculation for what it is either.. What girl wants to have the experience of a possible bad reaction from their partner? All I'm saying is that probably for a lot of women out there, it takes both parties being informed and comfortable with it before they can let themselves relax and enjoy the sensation.
I know it feels like it but it isn't. Just as the extra stimulation is mistaken by the brain as pain when trying to become multi-orgasmic; so too is the feeling of having to urinate not what it seems. But someone did ask the question. If he's uncomfortable with it, after you have explained, and cannot accept it - time to trade him in. Because while you can stop ejaculating, so I have been told, it is his lack of acceptance and not your ejaculation that is the issue.
As I have stated before. I have been witness to, contributed to female ejaculation countless times. Therefore I fully believe in female ejaculation. The composition of the ejaculate has not been agreed upon unanimously by researchers.
The results given at the following link:
http://www.ejhs.org/volume4/Schubach/abstract.html
say that it is urine yet it isn't urine; urine is one of the compounds included, but not the only.
The next report of which only the abstract is available at the following site
http://www.esrnexus.com/displayArticle.aspx?codedArticleID=17512613
is about the "female prostate" or the periurethral glands which have a duct into the urethra. This report says that the female ejaculate is more like "prostate plasma" than urine.
The reasoning of the hardline urine proponents is that taking into account the copious quantity of liquid expelled there is no storage organ in that area that can hold such a large amount of liquid except the urinary bladder.
The reasoning of the hardline not urine faction is that the skenes glands have been observed to secret 30-50 ml in a period of 30-50 seconds.
I am truly embarassed that I cannot cite the sources of the two preceding paragraphs. If I come across them again I'll post them if anyone is interested.
50 ml is slightly less than 4 ounces or 1/4 cup. This amount seems about right for most of the female ejaculations that I have witnessed, but is far from the greatest volume that I have seen expelled from a woman's genitalia.
The following site
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/319/7225/1596
details a study involving Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI) of male and female genitals during coitus and female sexual arousal. It has some very interesting images which I recommend. While the G Spot and female ejaculation are not the focus of the study the authors report the absence of evidence of a G Spot in the images and the absence of a reservoir for female ejaculation.
Now I ask: If the G Spot is not the G Spot, what is that bump inside the anterior wall of the vagina approximately 5 cm past the opening?
I would enjoy reading other members' comments on these studies.
So how do I know that I am about to ejaculate? When I feel like I have to pee?
Am I supposed to relax and just lay there as my boyfriend plays with my clit or G-spot?
I am so confused, I want to squirt for him since he wants it so bad but I don't understand how or get the concept.
[quote=confused_pussy;223121]So how do I know that I am about to ejaculate? When I feel like I have to pee?
Am I supposed to relax and just lay there as my boyfriend plays with my clit or G-spot?
I am so confused, I want to squirt for him since he wants it so bad but I don't understand how or get the concept.[/quote]
Duplicate post.
I been hoping to work with my gf and get her to a near all g-spot orgasmic squirt.
Plenty of reading material that has been keeping busy ;)
I did have a question.
So, I'am aware its common for the the birth control pill to affect a women's "wetness" when aroused. My gf struggles with this from time to time.
Is this random/occasional occurrence related to a womens ability to squirt. Or am I correct in thinking that it has more to do with timing with her cycle than it does anything else.
I watched some porno clips on squirting, and i think im going to have to put a tarp on the lcd tv... yeesh that is impressive projection and now im far less proud of my explosive ejaculations.
It's debatable if women actually can there are those who say yes & those who say no. Well, proven yes I can. Have to be very comfortable [at ease]& require g-spot stim. It's secondary of a internal release of fluid from a gland; therefore, I doubt it has much to correlate with her wetness during arousal. Some women never experience this. If I am with a person I feel close to & very comfortable; it happens maybe 50% of all times which I orgasm. It's not a guarantee.
I doubt you can cause it--work on the g-spot and work it slowly & see what happens. I hope you read Brandye's post on this. If so here is a bit more of similar answers:
http://www.health24.com/sex/Basics/1253-1265,32986.asp
[QUOTE=sera300;223269]It's debatable if women actually can there are those who say yes & those who say no. Well, proven yes I can. Have to be very comfortable [at ease]& require g-spot stim. It's secondary of a internal release of fluid from a gland; therefore, I doubt it has much to correlate with her wetness during arousal. Some women never experience this. If I am with a person I feel close to & very comfortable; it happens maybe 50% of all times which I orgasm. It's not a guarantee.
I doubt you can cause it--work on the g-spot and work it slowly & see what happens. I hope you read Brandye's post on this. If so here is a bit more of similar answers:
http://www.health24.com/sex/Basics/1253-1265,32986.asp[/QUOTE]
Thanks.
When i said "cause" i just ment that if it is possible for her to accomplish and i stimulate the right spot enough times the number should work in my favor. I mean its not the end of the world if I don't since she is very good at climaxing with or without me... its just cool to have goals and dream :)
well i found my girlfriends g-spot about a week ago and it took my entier finger length, but she is 6'1" but if you find it bout of you will know
i had not idea..what's its like to be hit on a g-spot...maybe i don't have one....lolz...
Okay - the G-Spot is up and near near the entrance, the anterior fornix is up and back above the cervix (well behind the G-Spot) and the posterior fornix is down and back below the cervix. All three areas can be stimulated to induce orgasms in most women - depends upon how that particular woman is wired.
So, if you're waaay back in there - most likely you've gotten one of her fornices.
Pink: this is graduate school level sex here! Doctorate anyone?
Pink
read through this thread from the beginning. Evilkitten's point that this is advanced stuff is true. Many of us who have found our G-Spots spent a long time finding them. Medically, I cannot even tell you the G-Spot existss but I am glad to say mine has been found!
Since there is something there about (meaning variations of more or less ) 2 inches inside the vagina and most of the women I have had experience with admit to feeling something "special" there and whatever this is was first mentioned in modern literature by Dr. Gräfenberg why don't we just call it the G Spot?
dlb -
That is what it has been called for about 80 years.
[QUOTE=Brandye;223903]dlb -
That is what it has been called for about 80 years.[/QUOTE]
Brandye,
In the spirit of sarcasm, or is it good natured condescension (?) I would love to laugh along, but the 80 years made me doubt.
Actually Dr. Ernst Gräfenberg published his The Role of Urethra in Female Orgasm in 1950 and apparently the term Gräfenberg's spot or the G spot was invented by Alice Kahn Ladas, Beverly Whipple and John D Perry authors of the landmark The G Spot: And Other Discoveries About Human Sexuality which was published in 1982. If I recall correctly they coined the term G spot in honor of Gräfenberg; using only the initial G rather than the entire name to make it simpler for their American readers who might not know how to pronounce Gräfenberg.
As I said earlier, "whatever this is was first mentioned in modern literature by Dr. Gräfenberg why don't we just call it the G Spot?"
The following link leads to an interesting article
http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-he-mating21-2008jul21,0,399661...
What I like most is the last sentence-a quote from Dr. Gräfenberg himself that I have found to be quite true.
Keep up the fight against cheap bras!!!!!!!!!
Read the article. People it is NOT an issue of "her hardware" as in she may not have one (she does), it is an issue of "her software" as in she may not yet be 'wired' up yet as in developing an orgasmic response to the stimulus. Just as she has to masturbate to orgasm to learn, so too now she must learn G-Spot and fornix orgasms.
This is why having an experienced and skillful partner is best - hence why older men 'rock'!
Dlb;
Yes, some agree medically it's there & just as many say it's not present. Establishing the presence of an area is where a medical debate enters. You can go to the doctor and tell them your scrotum hurts, it's findable, & can be assessed. A woman can go to the doctor and say I have pain & upon exam you can establish a bruised cervix. Upon exam you can not with certainty establish a "G-spot".
Sexually some women are fortunate to find it; where as, other women can not even orgasm. This is where one moves from the medical institution thinking and can go on other's theory in the study of human sexuality.
No one really doubts the presence of it when they have experienced it, those who go with traditional thinking go with it being absent. If it's not an area which can be studied & physically dissected the thinking is it must not exist and it a theory. I believe you will find what Brandye is saying; we are taught there is no such thing as the g-spot, at least I was not in NP school, perhaps med school looks differently at it. However, if you search upon sexual theory; many are very happy to conclude--yes it is there. I believe she is saying she is glad she found hers despite the medical approach of it's not there.
I never knew of it until It was discovered accidentally; glad it has been found although it cannot be proven! It's not like during all the A&P, psychology, and gyn discussions/exams/courses it was taught or even mentioned. Incidental sexual encounters with a former concluded it's there and yes, squirting can happen but is not a guarantee. I recall looking at my ex-fiancee when he asked "what happened...I guess you really liked that!" . I was baffled myself initially, until I did some reading!
You know what Sera? When I wrote, "Why don't we just call it the G spot?" I believe, now, that I was reading two posts-one possibly from a different site!-because I remember replying to the question of whether G spot was the most adequate term for the area and NOW I don't see where that has been addressed at all in this specific thread. But when I say that every woman I have had experience with does have this structure I do address this thread.
I have never negated that this area exists. The article that I posted the link to was just something that I found interesting. I don't see the author taking a strong stance pro or contra the existence of the G spot. The most important part of the article, for me, was the last two paragraphs; especially the quote from Gräfenberg himself.
Sorry for any confusion.
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