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Still a virgin but have tried some sexual things

Well I'm 20 yrs old and plus over the years of my life I've tried some sexual things to a girl like fingering her, sucking her boobs, her giving me a blowjob/handjob etc. But the thing that I am questioning does that make a virgin or not? Cause I tried sticking my dick into a girl once but apparently we couldn't fit in and just got dressed afterwords so does that make me a virgin or not? Just needed to be clarified here cause I still feel like a virgin and it's kinda of pressuring if I want to lose it or not even though I appreciate the view and beauty of sex and nudity. So if anyone has got answers it would make me feel a whole lot better. Thanks

P.S. Anyone want to make not a virgin anymore?! Lol!! jk
or maybe ;)

BUT it is all in HOW you ask.

Varies between women and the situation so a definitive answer cannot be given.

i would say that what you have done and experienced is foreplay. at the same time oral sex is sex and you are at risk for std's just the as if you were having penetrative sex. i think you are still a virgin to vaginal sex. if you were to have had intercourse but were a virgin to anal sex you wouldn't be considered a virgin not completely. you have some experiences but i would say you still have your v card to give.

According to the orthodox text - you remain a virgin since only pentrative vaginal sex is considered 'sex'. Why? Because sex is only for procreation and you haven't yet gotten yourself in the position required for procreation.

That being said, yes, you've had sex - oral and manual sex as well as foreplay.
You do remain a 'beginner' however.

Yeah but like I had a condom on just in case but I did the sexual foreplay stuff
just for fun and nothing else. So it kinda feels good and an accopolishment that I'm still virgin still but yeah that so called vaginal sex did not work out so well, so yeah it kinda sucks. But I kinda do miss the foreplay a bit but then again it's hard to find a girl that wants too as well and trying to ask if they want to or not so how would you get a girl involved with something like that? Any advice or w/e? And can you link me to a source that would too as well? So I know for future reference
Thanks

an accomplishment to remain a virgin??

I don't think so.

Women have the same desires as you do; they've only been taught differently and have other concerns. Read around the forum. You get by ASKING.

While you may find a girl who is interested in having a FWB, I believe you stand a much better chance of having sex, if you approach it from having invested time and effort into having a loving relationship with someone.

Go and date and date lots of girls. Get to know them. One or two will be more interested in you than others so work on developing friendships and then more. One or two will invest in you, also, and as the relationship(s) mature(s), so to will the intimacy.

Guys can be UP and ready for sex in minutes; not so girls. Guys can also separate the emotional component from the physical much easier and with less damage to the psyche than can women, so approach the solution this way.

And what's the best way to ask, EEK?

Ah go fig:p

Dude the OP's second post gave me a headache...soo much clutter and randomness to it.

OP a virginity is "penetration of a vagina by a penis". You have had oral and manual sex, but not the traditional "standar". You ARE a virgin.

Like EEK said. Its nothing to be proud of. Its nothing to be ashamed of but you don't get some special reward. I once knew a girl who was bragging about her "gold star". It was just slang for a lesbian who has never tried a guy. I told her she was a fool because your excited over aboslutely nothing. (And I don't think you can truly say you hate men or women if you haven't tried.)

I will tell you that the best advice I ever got was to talk to a girl just like a normal friend. Unless you are with an absolute prude, religious nut, or old school (I.e. believing that a man should be the night in shining armor etc) you can talk to them like a regular everyday human being. In fact once you realize that its okay to treat a girl as an eqaul (and not put the vagina on a pedestal) you would be amazed to see that 99% of the girls you meet masturbate quite regularly and are willing to talk about it if you are confident and open with them. Not Mr. "Oh I can only ever be respectable and can't even mention that I once held a girls hand."

Now that is the basic meeting phase. As far as getting to first, second, third and home, the rest is up to you. I personally have had a lot of luck just asking a friend if they want to hook up. I don't really know how to explain it properly but I have a "knack" for judging people. And I have this overwhelming confidence at times. I once had a little mishap where a text mishap led to a random girl in my phone book getting a pic of my package. She was like "Oh my god" and I apologized for it. She continued on and I kept apologizing until eventually I just got fed up with her 50 pg lecture on my picture that I simply replied you just jealous because someone else is getting it tonight ;)

Well turns out she really was haha. This is a rare occurance, I wouldn't suggest doing this but sometimes you can get lucky. And again I have this like 6th sense sorta deal

I think virginity is made into too much of a big deal. You either are or you're not. And you could squeeze the "demi-virge" the French made up in between. By all means; use the word that you feel defines you best. You don't need anyone else telling you how you should feel.

Some girls protect their vaginal virginity like hawks until marriage. I wouldn't consider myself much of a virgin when having done every sexual act, including anal sex. I wouldn't be interested in withholding anything till marriage, if I'd marry at all. But if it makes them happy; why not? When I started my relationship; I did feel like this helpless virgin that had no experience with sexuality nor romantic relationships at all, not even the sexual pleasures of my own body. But as we progressed, I experienced orgasms, learned how to masturbate and performed hj & bj's on him which brought him to stronger climaxes as I gained skills. And I felt like a pretty big girl! It was a complete different stage on sexuality to me, compared to where I had been just a few months before.

I wouldn't have called myself a virgin at that time, though I didn't know what to call myself either... In fact; I wouldn't even know what to call myself now! What do you become when you've lost your "virginity", is there a word for it? Why have a word for it? Other than the need to take precautions; Sex is this beautiful journey in which there is the right time and place for things when it feels right. The destination is of no importance; enjoy it every step of the way! :)

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