Evidently something hurt.

BTW, inside is not where the real action is for women.

Penises twitch, throb, and pulse; would it be too much of a stretch to believe that a clitoris will do the same even though most of it is buried?

I agree w/ Doc...
and twitching and shaking doesn't always mean orgasm.
And I know there is a thin line between pleasure and pain but I have never been penetrated and it hurt so bad it makes me want to cry and at the same time have an orgasm. The "orgasm" itself does not hurt.
If all else fails.. just ask her if she had one.

You bring up some interesting topics.

> I have never been penetrated and it hurt so bad it makes me want to cry and at the same time have an orgasm.

I recommend doing some self evaluation beginning with the state or condition of your hymen. If you do not already know, then take a flashlight or other strong light and a mirror and have a look. As you probably know by now, hymens come in a variety of styles. Some cover the entire entrance; some only partially so. Some have one or more holes in the membrane of varous sizes. Your hymen may have already been torn or eroded away from participation in sports or whatever.

The hurt you experience can be due to the following factors:
* Pushing against an intact hymen
* Attempting to introduce a finger, toy, or penis and stretching the opening excessively
* Vaginismus that is a tension in the vaginal muscles, which in turn causes painful intercourse. Muscle spasms can be the the result of either a physical condition or a psychological matter.

Once in a while the quesion arises about what position is best for initial intercourse. I always suggest the Woman Superior position because this places the woman in control over placement of the penis, pressures used to penetrate, speed, depth, and rate of penetration and stroking. If your hymen partially obstructs the vaginal opening, then try placing the tip of the penis beside it and the lining of the vagina. If the hymen has a large hole in it, try positioning the penis against it. Use pressure rather than to poke or jab the membrane.

If the hymen is (partially) gone, then the pain might be from one of the other two conditions. Vaginismus must be treated medically. If penetration is hindered because the opening is small as is often the case with women who have not had intercourse, then resiliency is usually the problem. For this I have often suggested that when expecting to have intercourse for the first time a woman do some stretching exercises for a week or so beforehand. The idea is not to stretch or widen the vaginal opening, rather to make it more plyable.

The exercise begins by sitting in a bathtub of plain warm water (or alternately standing in a shower) so that the water can soften the tissue. Next, insert one finger and pull in one of four directions holding the tension for several moments. Continue in turn with each of the other three quadrants. Do this once or twice daily. Eventually you will be able to insert two fingers. When you can, then pull in opposition, eventually stretching all around the opening. These sessions only take a few mintues each.

> The "orgasm" itself does not hurt.

For the couple new to intercourse, I recommend that the man offer to help his partner have an orgasm before trying intercourse, and then again later, if it is her wish. The discomfort of attempting to engage is often enought to thuart any orgasm.

> If all else fails.. just ask her if she had one.

I know, this is often suggested, yet I find it so crude. An essential part of a woman's sex education should be for her to inform her lover that she has had an orgasm, or, is having one. She need not exclaim this in a way that disrupts the moment; although a simple declaration like whispering a "wow", "whew", or "sigh" is often enough to convey the message. Similarly, a non-verbal way is to squeeze her hand in some way that the two of them work out that conveys the message. Doing one of these will forever stop the nagging question of "did you cum?"

"Well...didya?"

Thanks for bringing these matters up for discussion.

Huh?
Sorry I think you misread on my part b/c I lost my hymen a looonnngg time ago, lol. I dont even remember having the pain of having one.
Sex for me isn't painful and even my first time wasn't really that bad.

I agree that asking "did you cum?" is kind of childish and isn't necessary of those who are "seasoned" lovers. Yet it seems here lately the girl isn't even able to answer that question, so how is a unexperienced teen able to "read the signs".
Many girls have posted just saying, well my legs shook, was that an orgasm??

> I have never been penetrated and it hurt so bad it makes me want to cry

Please clarify by "connecting the dots" for this male-type.

[QUOTE=dancingdoc2]> I have never been penetrated and it hurt so bad it makes me want to cry

Please clarify by "connecting the dots" for this male-type.[/QUOTE]

Now I am even more confused lol
I was saying I have never been penetrated by either a penis or finger... and it BOTH a) hurt so much it made me want to cry and b) made me orgasm at the same time....
Sorry for the confusion. I am not a virgin

I realize a lot of women have this trouble and are unable to be easily penetrated. But badguy was stating that she made him pull his fingers out b/c the pain was unbearable but b/c she stated her clit moved and her legs shook he assumed she had an orgasm.