Yes, but it's not rape as in a real life scenario often women are talking about...it's the submission to the man & they confuse the two terms. No person man or woman wishes to be raped.
She wished you perhaps to dominate her??? Talk to her.
Not real rape. Only consensual fantasy role playing. She probably wants to experience what she considers to be the "thrill" of loosing control, being overpowered or forced, but within the "safe" scenario of consent.
If you are willing to help her realize this fantasy and feel comfortable taking part talk with her about how she imagines it might happen, where, circumstances....
Talk to her, ask her what thought of it thrills her the most.
Maybe perhaps after you have been teased by her and becoming frustrated by her not letting you have her. Surpise her!
Before hand, ALWAYS HAVE AND REMEMBER THE "SAFE" WORD(S). Have a little phrase that absolutely means STOP. The word "stop" does not apply in the scenario, because of course it's being "forced."
It can't be only acting on your part either if you show that you're just acting then it'll be such a turn off.
Jeez.. I didn't even answer your question. Yes, it is a common fetish. I love this scenario! Absolutely thrills me!
Yes, the "rape fantasy" is very common in some women. Not "real rape" - of course not - but a symbolic gesture where she can tell herself she "is not responsible" for the sex that happens. I will not go into all the psycho-sexual ramifications of such a fantasy here - you're welcome - but it isn't the healthiest of fantasies to have.
You should ask her why, precisely what, and exactly how she wants to play this out.
Orth, id be interested in hearing what you think about it mate? Are you all for it and willing to in the name of fantasy, or is it a bit too taboo for you?
For the sake of knowledge, would anyone mind going into why men and women have these fantasies? Why do men have fantasies of "raping" women, and why do women have fantasies of being "raped"?
I use quotations, because I'm sure that a fantasy cannot accurately portray the real experience.
The interplay of dominance and surrender speaks to cultural archetypes of what it means to be masculine and feminine as we have been taught, in the West, from the time of ancient Athens to now.
Sex and violence have always been linked. You sacked the city, killing the men, and enslaving the women. Women = trophies and spoils of war. Men = conquering/rescuing heroes. Men = big and strong. Women = soft and yielding. Men = like sex. Women = not like sex. And if he can't coax her into it, then perhaps he should coerce her into it that way she can say "it wasn't my fault, I'm still a good girl'. The whole goddess/whore thing. And then there's the men blaming women for inducing such desire for women in men by women's beauty. You made me desire you and so you must be punished because you're a bad girl/slut. And men want to raise only children he has sired.
Then the church got involved and reinforced all of the stereotypes as noted above. You will remember that Mary's conception of Jesus did not require sex and therefore Mary was exalted above all others since she continued to be pure, unsullied by sexual congress.
Does that help, Eph?
As to essentially why - men fear what they cannot control, women's sexuality (if unbridled) is uncontrollable and therefore for that reason and for the children expected: men are to control women and women's sexuality & procreativity.
I would think it would be because she wants you to be dominant and take over her body. She wants to feel a sense of helplessness as you make love to her. I think it's kinda sexy, in a twisted way.
I might have had maybe TWO women mention that they had this fantasy. Perhaps one suggested that I might want to play rape her-I did not want to and did not play it. I have had a few partners who had been raped for real and at least two who were abused by step father or mother's boy friend when they were barely teenagers. None of them would have wanted to play this game.
I am not saying there is anything wrong with wanting to play the game. Playing captor/captive type Bondage & Discipline scenarios which I do enjoy could probably be interpreted as rape play in some cases. I just prefer to play that I am a very seductive captor and my captives rather than begging to be set free are begging me to have my way with them. OK the begging is usually real and sincere:p
Point is - playing just a simple rape scene - I would ask my partner why this particular fantasy, but would concede it to her. I get the feeling that it's not a popular fantasy among the women on this forum, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's abnormal. BTW, I once refused to consent to playing customer to my partner's prostitute because of my own distaste for prostitution and it hurt her feelings for a very long time.
but then again i would say most people who have been raped for real WON'T have a rape fantasy.
my wife enjoys the rape fantasy because she likes to feel dominated but, as we have to be responsible, particularly with things like this we have safe words and no REALLY means no. this is really often a rare indulgence anyway because there are so many other games to play :rolleyes:
and it is only a fantasy, not a need. i dont actively want to rape my wife, neither does she actively want to be raped so really it's just changing a few moans for "please stop" and a few grunts to "shut up woman! you like it" and all that.
as long as you're both comfortable with the situation and know you can stop at any time i think rape fantasies are perfectly normal. similarly, like everything else sexual it isn't to everyone's taste.
Perhaps its just me - but the whole 'let's play games' thing is a bit silly.
Rather like.. pardon the expression...work. I like to keep it simple. Him, a bed, me, and a clear 3 or 4 hours.
yeah lots of chicks like it when you handcuff them or put a knife to their throat. probably talk about it in advance though would be my pro-tip (work it into dirty talk maybe).
CrackBaby, that's definitely not a pro tip. Not even an amateur tip.
First of all, you don't even discuss something like this in a sexual situation. It's not fair. It's puts unfair pressure onto the other person. You talk about it in a completely neutral, safe environment.
Secondly, the whole knife thing is a bad idea. One slip and you could kill the person.
There are some things that I don't think you should go near. But what do I know?
I think some women like it because it tricks their bodies into acting certain ways. I did a rape awareness course years ago when I was in the army. One of the speakers was an aid worker who'd been kidnapped and raped repeatedly over several weeks.
What she told us that she found hard to deal with was that her body would become aroused and she would occassionally orgasm while she was being raped. Her kidnappers would use it to hummilliate her and break her down even more.
What was happening was her body acting to try and prevent injury, it wasn't that somehow she was enjoying their was simply an ingrained physical response to rape. Incidently men when they're being raped will often get erections and ejaculate its a different type of physical response but again its not something they have control over.
So I think one reason women want to roleplay rape is to trick their body into responding in different ways. To be honest I have tried it with mixed results and it did have an effect on the relationship him more so than me, so I'd strongly suggest that people think carefully.
[QUOTE=CrackBaby;232056]yeah lots of chicks like it when you handcuff them or put a knife to their throat. probably talk about it in advance though would be my pro-tip (work it into dirty talk maybe).[/QUOTE]
Pro Tip???
lots of chicks huh?
You know posts likes this are quite offensive to people who have been raped...
You know posts likes this are quite offensive to people who have been raped...[/QUOTE]
This question pops up a lot on various forums to do with sex. Typically posted by a bloke and worded the same way 'oh my gf is interested in rape roleplay nothing to do with me I'm just being a good bf'.
I'm a big believer in what happens in the bed room stays in the bed room, allowing a fantasy like this into your sex life , it's well intense you get a lot of sensations but it takes a lot out of you emotionally, so even if it does feel good is that really a good enough reason to do it.
I'm sure kissing posts are too but what can you do?
A bit of choking and maybe some slapping never hurt anybody.
i think its a control thing so maybe handcuffing her legs and arms and getting a vibrator in action for longer than she would do on her own comfortably could be a good call.
[QUOTE=sarah_rsl;232073]This question pops up a lot on various forums to do with sex. Typically posted by a bloke and worded the same way 'oh my gf is interested in rape roleplay nothing to do with me I'm just being a good bf'.
I'm a big believer in what happens in the bed room stays in the bed room, allowing a fantasy like this into your sex life , it's well intense you get a lot of sensations but it takes a lot out of you emotionally, so even if it does feel good is that really a good enough reason to do it.[/QUOTE]
Too true ..... but i was only referring to the one post :)
"so even if it does feel good is that really a good enough reason to do it."
Was that a question? If so, it was a good one.
It depends upon what you want your sexlife to be or to become. A glorious reaffirmation of life or an endless search for ever increasing thrills, I should suppose. Are you rejoicing in the bonding or trying to fill a void? Sharing and building a relationship or trying to erase hate?
Up to you, of course. But when you play rough - motives matter.
thers this group which helps people have their sex fantasies ,i watched it on tv,can't memba bout hte shows name now .n there was this women wantin to b raped n her bf consulted this group n they planned a rape .
the girl was raped by her bf n she felt too gd bout it :)
[QUOTE=EvilEvilKitten;232146]Ok then, how about if she slaps you around, holds a knife to your throat, and chokes you, Crackbaby? Feel good?[/QUOTE]
Some women who do like that stuff. However the ones the ones that want to combine an interesting sex life with a long life tend to look for a certain type of partner, and I don't think crackbaby would fall in that category.
Actually I think one of the positive side effects of that kind of sex is that by its very nature it can't be casual, a lot of thought has to go into sizing up the guy you do it with, and I think that amount of care carries into other aspects of the relationship.
[QUOTE=sarah_rsl;232163]Some women who do like that stuff. However the ones the ones that want to combine an interesting sex life with a long life tend to look for a certain type of partner, and I don't think crackbaby would fall in that category.
Actually I think one of the positive side effects of that kind of sex is that by its very nature it can't be casual, a lot of thought has to go into sizing up the guy you do it with, and I think that amount of care carries into other aspects of the relationship.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EvilEvilKitten;232193]Yes, safe words, and all of that planning - sounds a lot like that four-letter word: w-o-r-k.
Not what I'm there for personally; fun, yes but w-o-r-k, oh hell no![/QUOTE]
Rough sex is just such an andrenalin rush, to be honest most of what I get out of it isn't even sexual it's just all these crazy sensations and feelings. It really is intense if you're with somebody you trust. I think though thats its actually harder on the guy than the woman both physically and mentally.
LOL - ask the man who's been tormented by me - laziness is the LAST thing I'd ever be accused of. My 'personal best' - during a party you know - is 16 men exhausted in 4 hours of play. Mmmmm - love parties!! It would have been 18 but two of the men could, and did, outrun me. Then the police came and the party broke up thereafter. What a fabulous evening!!
I enjoy getting together with other bisexual people. There are two couples that I often spend "Quality" time with and one of our activities is pick a sex slave for the evening. Everyone picks a card and the lowest one is the slave. We use bondage, nothing painful, then that person is used in what ever way the rest of us want. We all enjoy it!
[QUOTE=EvilEvilKitten;232350]LOL - ask the man who's been tormented by me - laziness is the LAST thing I'd ever be accused of. My 'personal best' - during a party you know - is 16 men exhausted in 4 hours of play. Mmmmm - love parties!! It would have been 18 but two of the men could, and did, outrun me. Then the police came and the party broke up thereafter. What a fabulous evening!![/QUOTE]
i've heard that some women like the rape senario because they get to do the act while (in the rp sense) being able to claim that they didn't want it... some way to keep the innocence i guess? idk i didn't really understand when i heard it either but if someone else has heard something similar maybe they will share...
[QUOTE=odis85;232383]i've heard that some women like the rape senario because they get to do the act while (in the rp sense) being able to claim that they didn't want it... some way to keep the innocence i guess? idk i didn't really understand when i heard it either but if someone else has heard something similar maybe they will share...[/QUOTE]
i think its more of a completely surrendering control type of thing. women are intrinsically very insecure in all their decisions that they make by themselves for the most part because they rely on group decision making so giving up complete control is like a release. some chicks just like to feel like being completely dominated is to be with a super dominant male (superior to other men).
"women are intrinsically very insecure in all their decisions that they make by themselves for the most part because they rely on group decision making"
Beware of making blanket statements like that.
Especially when they are false. Women do compare notes, but their decisions remain their own despite how it may appear to men.
[QUOTE=CrackBaby;232454]women also can't handle blanket statements because they personally have to be the exception to every rule no matter what. the point stands.[/QUOTE]
I think you would be so suited to being gay, you should definitely look at moving in that direction.
Unfortunately you do get men with this ghetto-survival mindset where they cannot admit they were wrong or even mistaken because they always see everything as a contest. A "if you win then I lose" battle.
This need to win the respect of everyone else is actually a weakness.
Because if he was really alpha he wouldn't really care.
Yes, but it's not rape as in a real life scenario often women are talking about...it's the submission to the man & they confuse the two terms. No person man or woman wishes to be raped.
She wished you perhaps to dominate her??? Talk to her.
Not real rape. Only consensual fantasy role playing. She probably wants to experience what she considers to be the "thrill" of loosing control, being overpowered or forced, but within the "safe" scenario of consent.
If you are willing to help her realize this fantasy and feel comfortable taking part talk with her about how she imagines it might happen, where, circumstances....
And then make it happen for her.
Set it all up.
Talk to her, ask her what thought of it thrills her the most.
Maybe perhaps after you have been teased by her and becoming frustrated by her not letting you have her. Surpise her!
Before hand, ALWAYS HAVE AND REMEMBER THE "SAFE" WORD(S). Have a little phrase that absolutely means STOP. The word "stop" does not apply in the scenario, because of course it's being "forced."
It can't be only acting on your part either if you show that you're just acting then it'll be such a turn off.
Jeez.. I didn't even answer your question. Yes, it is a common fetish. I love this scenario! Absolutely thrills me!
Yes, the "rape fantasy" is very common in some women. Not "real rape" - of course not - but a symbolic gesture where she can tell herself she "is not responsible" for the sex that happens. I will not go into all the psycho-sexual ramifications of such a fantasy here - you're welcome - but it isn't the healthiest of fantasies to have.
You should ask her why, precisely what, and exactly how she wants to play this out.
Orth, id be interested in hearing what you think about it mate? Are you all for it and willing to in the name of fantasy, or is it a bit too taboo for you?
For the sake of knowledge, would anyone mind going into why men and women have these fantasies? Why do men have fantasies of "raping" women, and why do women have fantasies of being "raped"?
I use quotations, because I'm sure that a fantasy cannot accurately portray the real experience.
The interplay of dominance and surrender speaks to cultural archetypes of what it means to be masculine and feminine as we have been taught, in the West, from the time of ancient Athens to now.
Sex and violence have always been linked. You sacked the city, killing the men, and enslaving the women. Women = trophies and spoils of war. Men = conquering/rescuing heroes. Men = big and strong. Women = soft and yielding. Men = like sex. Women = not like sex. And if he can't coax her into it, then perhaps he should coerce her into it that way she can say "it wasn't my fault, I'm still a good girl'. The whole goddess/whore thing. And then there's the men blaming women for inducing such desire for women in men by women's beauty. You made me desire you and so you must be punished because you're a bad girl/slut. And men want to raise only children he has sired.
Then the church got involved and reinforced all of the stereotypes as noted above. You will remember that Mary's conception of Jesus did not require sex and therefore Mary was exalted above all others since she continued to be pure, unsullied by sexual congress.
Does that help, Eph?
As to essentially why - men fear what they cannot control, women's sexuality (if unbridled) is uncontrollable and therefore for that reason and for the children expected: men are to control women and women's sexuality & procreativity.
I would think it would be because she wants you to be dominant and take over her body. She wants to feel a sense of helplessness as you make love to her. I think it's kinda sexy, in a twisted way.
Ok, iwant, WHY does she want to feel helpless & WHY do you think it's sexy?
That was the question asked.
BTW - this is one fantasy I do NOT have.
I might have had maybe TWO women mention that they had this fantasy. Perhaps one suggested that I might want to play rape her-I did not want to and did not play it. I have had a few partners who had been raped for real and at least two who were abused by step father or mother's boy friend when they were barely teenagers. None of them would have wanted to play this game.
I am not saying there is anything wrong with wanting to play the game. Playing captor/captive type Bondage & Discipline scenarios which I do enjoy could probably be interpreted as rape play in some cases. I just prefer to play that I am a very seductive captor and my captives rather than begging to be set free are begging me to have my way with them. OK the begging is usually real and sincere:p
Point is - playing just a simple rape scene - I would ask my partner why this particular fantasy, but would concede it to her. I get the feeling that it's not a popular fantasy among the women on this forum, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's abnormal. BTW, I once refused to consent to playing customer to my partner's prostitute because of my own distaste for prostitution and it hurt her feelings for a very long time.
That does help, EEK.
Thank you.
but then again i would say most people who have been raped for real WON'T have a rape fantasy.
my wife enjoys the rape fantasy because she likes to feel dominated but, as we have to be responsible, particularly with things like this we have safe words and no REALLY means no. this is really often a rare indulgence anyway because there are so many other games to play :rolleyes:
and it is only a fantasy, not a need. i dont actively want to rape my wife, neither does she actively want to be raped so really it's just changing a few moans for "please stop" and a few grunts to "shut up woman! you like it" and all that.
as long as you're both comfortable with the situation and know you can stop at any time i think rape fantasies are perfectly normal. similarly, like everything else sexual it isn't to everyone's taste.
Perhaps its just me - but the whole 'let's play games' thing is a bit silly.
Rather like.. pardon the expression...work. I like to keep it simple. Him, a bed, me, and a clear 3 or 4 hours.
yeah lots of chicks like it when you handcuff them or put a knife to their throat. probably talk about it in advance though would be my pro-tip (work it into dirty talk maybe).
Uh...
CrackBaby, that's definitely not a pro tip. Not even an amateur tip.
First of all, you don't even discuss something like this in a sexual situation. It's not fair. It's puts unfair pressure onto the other person. You talk about it in a completely neutral, safe environment.
Secondly, the whole knife thing is a bad idea. One slip and you could kill the person.
There are some things that I don't think you should go near. But what do I know?
I think some women like it because it tricks their bodies into acting certain ways. I did a rape awareness course years ago when I was in the army. One of the speakers was an aid worker who'd been kidnapped and raped repeatedly over several weeks.
What she told us that she found hard to deal with was that her body would become aroused and she would occassionally orgasm while she was being raped. Her kidnappers would use it to hummilliate her and break her down even more.
What was happening was her body acting to try and prevent injury, it wasn't that somehow she was enjoying their was simply an ingrained physical response to rape. Incidently men when they're being raped will often get erections and ejaculate its a different type of physical response but again its not something they have control over.
So I think one reason women want to roleplay rape is to trick their body into responding in different ways. To be honest I have tried it with mixed results and it did have an effect on the relationship him more so than me, so I'd strongly suggest that people think carefully.
[QUOTE=CrackBaby;232056]yeah lots of chicks like it when you handcuff them or put a knife to their throat. probably talk about it in advance though would be my pro-tip (work it into dirty talk maybe).[/QUOTE]
Pro Tip???
lots of chicks huh?
You know posts likes this are quite offensive to people who have been raped...
[QUOTE=nuttychick;232064]Pro Tip???
lots of chicks huh?
You know posts likes this are quite offensive to people who have been raped...[/QUOTE]
This question pops up a lot on various forums to do with sex. Typically posted by a bloke and worded the same way 'oh my gf is interested in rape roleplay nothing to do with me I'm just being a good bf'.
I'm a big believer in what happens in the bed room stays in the bed room, allowing a fantasy like this into your sex life , it's well intense you get a lot of sensations but it takes a lot out of you emotionally, so even if it does feel good is that really a good enough reason to do it.
I'm sure kissing posts are too but what can you do?
A bit of choking and maybe some slapping never hurt anybody.
i think its a control thing so maybe handcuffing her legs and arms and getting a vibrator in action for longer than she would do on her own comfortably could be a good call.
Crackbaby - get your head out of there! Knives?!?! Choking?? Slap her around?? Never hurt anyone?
I am a firm believer in "if you can't take it, don't give it."
So, I strongly encourage you guys to try it yourself first and then see where your mind is at.
I'm game.
But there's no way a knife's coming near me.
There's no way I'm going to be tied up and had some object used on me for a time longer than I'm comfortable with.
[QUOTE=sarah_rsl;232073]This question pops up a lot on various forums to do with sex. Typically posted by a bloke and worded the same way 'oh my gf is interested in rape roleplay nothing to do with me I'm just being a good bf'.
I'm a big believer in what happens in the bed room stays in the bed room, allowing a fantasy like this into your sex life , it's well intense you get a lot of sensations but it takes a lot out of you emotionally, so even if it does feel good is that really a good enough reason to do it.[/QUOTE]
Too true ..... but i was only referring to the one post :)
"so even if it does feel good is that really a good enough reason to do it."
Was that a question? If so, it was a good one.
It depends upon what you want your sexlife to be or to become. A glorious reaffirmation of life or an endless search for ever increasing thrills, I should suppose. Are you rejoicing in the bonding or trying to fill a void? Sharing and building a relationship or trying to erase hate?
Up to you, of course. But when you play rough - motives matter.
[QUOTE=EvilEvilKitten;232084]Crackbaby - get your head out of there! Knives?!?! Choking?? Slap her around?? Never hurt anyone?
I am a firm believer in "if you can't take it, don't give it."
So, I strongly encourage you guys to try it yourself first and then see where your mind is at.[/QUOTE]
lol what if you can't take it don't give it? well i don't feel like taking a dick anytime soon but i love giving it...
seriously though wrapping your hands around her neck and squeezing a bit feels great for both of you i've found.
thers this group which helps people have their sex fantasies ,i watched it on tv,can't memba bout hte shows name now .n there was this women wantin to b raped n her bf consulted this group n they planned a rape .
the girl was raped by her bf n she felt too gd bout it :)
Ok then, how about if she slaps you around, holds a knife to your throat, and chokes you, Crackbaby? Feel good?
[QUOTE=EvilEvilKitten;232146]Ok then, how about if she slaps you around, holds a knife to your throat, and chokes you, Crackbaby? Feel good?[/QUOTE]
Some women who do like that stuff. However the ones the ones that want to combine an interesting sex life with a long life tend to look for a certain type of partner, and I don't think crackbaby would fall in that category.
Actually I think one of the positive side effects of that kind of sex is that by its very nature it can't be casual, a lot of thought has to go into sizing up the guy you do it with, and I think that amount of care carries into other aspects of the relationship.
[QUOTE=sarah_rsl;232163]Some women who do like that stuff. However the ones the ones that want to combine an interesting sex life with a long life tend to look for a certain type of partner, and I don't think crackbaby would fall in that category.
Actually I think one of the positive side effects of that kind of sex is that by its very nature it can't be casual, a lot of thought has to go into sizing up the guy you do it with, and I think that amount of care carries into other aspects of the relationship.[/QUOTE]
[size=0][COLOR="white">good post.[/COLOR][/size]
Yes, safe words, and all of that planning - sounds a lot like that four-letter word: w-o-r-k.
Not what I'm there for personally; fun, yes but w-o-r-k, oh hell no!
[QUOTE=EvilEvilKitten;232193]Yes, safe words, and all of that planning - sounds a lot like that four-letter word: w-o-r-k.
Not what I'm there for personally; fun, yes but w-o-r-k, oh hell no![/QUOTE]
Rough sex is just such an andrenalin rush, to be honest most of what I get out of it isn't even sexual it's just all these crazy sensations and feelings. It really is intense if you're with somebody you trust. I think though thats its actually harder on the guy than the woman both physically and mentally.
in this thread its pretty easy to predict who is probably huge
Huge? How do you mean that? In reference to what? Is it pertinent to the discussion?
just seeing laziness
LOL - ask the man who's been tormented by me - laziness is the LAST thing I'd ever be accused of. My 'personal best' - during a party you know - is 16 men exhausted in 4 hours of play. Mmmmm - love parties!! It would have been 18 but two of the men could, and did, outrun me. Then the police came and the party broke up thereafter. What a fabulous evening!!
I enjoy getting together with other bisexual people. There are two couples that I often spend "Quality" time with and one of our activities is pick a sex slave for the evening. Everyone picks a card and the lowest one is the slave. We use bondage, nothing painful, then that person is used in what ever way the rest of us want. We all enjoy it!
[QUOTE=EvilEvilKitten;232350]LOL - ask the man who's been tormented by me - laziness is the LAST thing I'd ever be accused of. My 'personal best' - during a party you know - is 16 men exhausted in 4 hours of play. Mmmmm - love parties!! It would have been 18 but two of the men could, and did, outrun me. Then the police came and the party broke up thereafter. What a fabulous evening!![/QUOTE]
are you skinny though
i've heard that some women like the rape senario because they get to do the act while (in the rp sense) being able to claim that they didn't want it... some way to keep the innocence i guess? idk i didn't really understand when i heard it either but if someone else has heard something similar maybe they will share...
Skinny? As in see ALL of my bones? As in "give that girl a sandwich!"? No.
As in slender, lithe, jungle cat with muscles - Ooooh YEAH!
[QUOTE=odis85;232383]i've heard that some women like the rape senario because they get to do the act while (in the rp sense) being able to claim that they didn't want it... some way to keep the innocence i guess? idk i didn't really understand when i heard it either but if someone else has heard something similar maybe they will share...[/QUOTE]
i think its more of a completely surrendering control type of thing. women are intrinsically very insecure in all their decisions that they make by themselves for the most part because they rely on group decision making so giving up complete control is like a release. some chicks just like to feel like being completely dominated is to be with a super dominant male (superior to other men).
"women are intrinsically very insecure in all their decisions that they make by themselves for the most part because they rely on group decision making"
Beware of making blanket statements like that.
Especially when they are false. Women do compare notes, but their decisions remain their own despite how it may appear to men.
women also can't handle blanket statements because they personally have to be the exception to every rule no matter what. the point stands.
[QUOTE=CrackBaby;232454]women also can't handle blanket statements because they personally have to be the exception to every rule no matter what. the point stands.[/QUOTE]
I think you would be so suited to being gay, you should definitely look at moving in that direction.
i dont like keeping my shoes clean. also i REALLY love the feel of pussy.
I'm glad CrackBaby's got it all figured out.
Now I have hope for myself.
Unfortunately you do get men with this ghetto-survival mindset where they cannot admit they were wrong or even mistaken because they always see everything as a contest. A "if you win then I lose" battle.
This need to win the respect of everyone else is actually a weakness.
Because if he was really alpha he wouldn't really care.
Me? I think he's cute. Like a puppy.
Do you?
Well, then, I admire your patience.
more like runt of the litter lol
Nevertheless, he is entitled to speak his opinion just as everyone else is.
Fair being fair.
[QUOTE=EvilEvilKitten;232529]Nevertheless, he is entitled to speak his opinion just as everyone else is.
Fair being fair.[/QUOTE]
Yup we all entitled to our opinions no matter how far out they are:D
I just hate to think that the people here who are very confused will be reading such awful advice and taking it to heart.
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