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Old 01-28-2009, 02:45 AM
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Kegals bad For Stamina in Men

I've heard that the PC Muscles are actually bad for stamina (I know many ppl/sex traineres recommend them), but this is more new breakthroughs. On many sites people are saying just like you that they lose stamina. They say that even though you can squeeze harder the ejaculation gets triggered much earlier.

A very highly regarded poster on another website provided us with this information, and anyone who tried to counter he kept out-debating with insight (he clearly is really educated on the topic):

"pc muscle exercises aren't dangerous it is the mainstream way of doing them is dangerous. You know, where you stop your piss midstream, that way is the wrong way because 1, your pc muscle is located around your anus and the muscle you guys are using is called bulbocavernosus BC muscle for short. ''The BC muscle has two main purposes. One is to force liquid (urine or semen) out of the urethra. It does this by way of the herringbone interlacing of muscle fibers which, as they contract, milk the urethra toward the meatus (opening at the tip of the glans). It also happens to cause the penis to be pulled into the body (the LOT tug-back). This happens every time a man urinates. It also happens with much greater force, and with rhythmic contractions, when he ejaculates. The BC muscle is the main ejector of semen. This is why ejaculation improves by exercising it'' (extracted from Locating the bc muscle - Thunder's Place Free Penis Enlargement Forums) Indeed ejaculation improves but at what cost? harder erections yea and making you cum faster.''The other function of the BC is to squeeze blood into the corpus spongiosum and the glans. The bulb of the penis is a reservoir of blood. At the time of greatest arousal voluntary or reflex contractions of the BC and Ischiocavernosus muscles force blood into the corpora''. When you strengthen the BC muscle it gets bigger and rubs against the prostate and then the prostate enlarges. When the prostate enlarges it prepares your body for ejaculation. In short when your are a couple weeks into the exercises your body links your hard erections directly to the process of ejaculation. The anal contractions and the reverse kegels are the proper exercises to help you last as long as you want. As of right now I corrected most of the damage of what the mainstream pc muscle exercises have done. I can now say I can last as long as I want. When Ido these during sex sometimes I can feel energy going up and down my spine to my brain.. Like heat and tingles and such, but it doesn't happen right way but when it does it feels great. Some people may argue that exercising any part of your body is natural and can't harm you that may be true depending on your intentions. If you want to cum faster you can do the mainstream way of doing the pc muscle exercises and cum faster or you can do the anal contractions and reverse kegels and last longer."

Here is a link he provided for a visual:
http://www.infosex.com/pc-muscle-relaxation.htm

I also recall reading that while people who do kegels last longer while masturbating but during intercourse where you have to thrust your hips and penis forwards, which adds pressure to the over excited pc muscle, prostate and urethral nerves, causing really early ejaculation.
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:55 AM
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Practicing the Kegel exercise can supposedly lead to more intense orgasms for men during ejaculation, but I am not aware of the exercise being a successful treatment for premature ejaculation. The Kegel exercise increases the tension in the ejaculatory apparatus and tension leads to ejaculation. The grunt technique in which the man mimics the action of trying to pass a difficult stool and grunts in the same manner actually eases the tension in the ejaculatory apparatus thus allowing him to postpone ejaculation for a while.
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Could you please explain how to do the grunt technique, and how to practice getting good at it?
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:37 AM
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grunt technique - the man mimics the action of trying to pass a difficult stool and grunts in the same manner actually eases the tension in the ejaculatory apparatus thus allowing him to postpone ejaculation for a while. At first you might want to stop thrusting. If she asks what's going on you can tell her. After you have done it a few times you know the muscles and don't have to actually grunt. With practice you should be able to postpone ejaculation and possibly ( in my case it happened ) separate ejaculation from orgasm thus allowing yourself to have more orgasms in a session.

I should add that just because it worked for me doesn't mean it will work for you. Your mileage may vary, as they say.

While it is true that premature ejaculation is statistically the most common male sexual dysfunction, at least in younger men, I am beginning to suspect that we tend to be misled and misinformed about what is a realistic ( and more importantly pleasurable) duration for a single act of coitus. Popular magazines, pornographic media and cultural myths lead us to believe that in order for a man to be a good lover he should have extremely long lasting erections during sex take a long time to reach orgasm.

I have found over the years that women who are sexually secure reach orgasm about as quickly and easily as men. Taking a long time to reach orgasm does not make a man a good sex partner. Knowing how to help his partner reach orgasm and make her orgasm more enjoyable and being able to allow her to reciprocate in a way that is mutually enjoyable are some of the things that make a man a good sex partner. If you can go 20, 30, 45 minutes consistently and you and your partner find it consistently fulfilling then fine. Most coital acts probably last somewhere between 3 and 10 minutes. Unless the purpose is a quickie 3 minutes preceded by lots of foreplay and afterplay works pretty well for a lot of people. If the purpose is a quickie 10 minutes seems a little long.

Squeeze technique, grunt technique and other therapies can help some men who have a clinical dysfunction or who simply want to stay in the saddle longer. In the end I have found that the greatest aid to prolong coitus is to stop worrying about how long I am lasting and just enjoy the moment.

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Old 02-23-2009, 08:42 PM
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love this forum - loads of useful information
especially when everyone is matured enough to discuss sex in a civilized and learned manner.

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