Seduce and Conquer

[RATED-RKOFRANKLIN]

This is a dating product to help guys the the ladies. It suppose to teach them how to be better than the rest! It teachers you how to talk to women, dress, walk, etc.

http://www.seduceandconquer.com/guys/complete.htm

The "player" and owner for this product on a radio shop. It is rather interesting.
http://pickuppodcast.com/blogs/picku...interview.aspx

What do you think of this product and Payton Kane's views on how to get women?

[AussieBloke]

Had a quick look.. didn't see too much info there (i guess thats how he makes $$) so I lft it.

But I figure, most of those sorts of things will give you sound advice. But, the problem is walking into a situation and you're minds like that of Platoon Commander in Afghanistan; you've got all these so called 'tactics' and 'techniques' going through your mind, not a chance your going to make it look natural.

Yea sure, by it and have a read of it. Get the main concepts, than go off on your own. Dont approach women with some sort of checklist or something like that in your mind, you'll f*ck it up every time if you do. Get his main ideas, keep them in mind.. but still be natural. Keep them at the back of your mind; not the forefront.

Also, don't think that reading the book or whatever will take you being a dud to some sort of superstar. It wont. Improve you.. for sure! Get you "any woman you want"? Not a chance.

[RATED-RKOFRANKLIN]

Did you listen to his interview? He really wants the "players" to act like arrogant jackasses. He also stated NEVER complement a woman.

[funinthesun]

Don't remember where but this type of junk has been discussed here.

Simply put - you get what you put into things.

These types of guides might as well be titled - How an immature and insecure boy can get an immature and insecure girl to not ignore him.

I'm not even going to comment on what type of relationship you'd be in if you 'succeeded'.

[RATED-RKOFRANKLIN]

I agree with what you said. There is a way to speak to someone respectfully.

[AussieBloke]

Originally Posted by RATED-RKOFRANKLIN

Did you listen to his interview? He really wants the "players" to act like arrogant jackasses. He also stated NEVER complement a woman.

No I didn't.

But anyway, most of those things probably dont want you be real nasty; they just want you to improve how you go with women. They don't want you to be a heart-breaker.. just someone who gets more opportunities.

That guide thing won't teach you to be arrogant, or mean or nasty; itll teach you to not be a doormat (e.g., not complimenting 3,000 times a day!)

But, being arrogant is good mate. Being indifferent is fine.. the "Im me, take it or leave it" is fantastic! Having the confidence and balls to speak your mind is all only going to make things easier.

[dancingdoc2]

You can do a site search on the term "chatty creatures" and find that I've talked about how to have conversations with a girl/woman many times.

[Massdebator]

I'm going to have to agree with funinthesun on this one. Anything titled "seduce and conquer" isn't going to help at forming anything healthy or worthwhile at all. This reminds me of Tom Cruise's Frank T.J. Mackey and his "Seduce and Destroy" method from the film, "Magnolia." We all know how that ended up.

[EvilEvilKitten]

If you're "cocky-funny" or "arrogant" you will get a silly flighty chickie baby for about 3 months or a wet clingy mawkish woman who didn't grow up for the rest of your life.

But if it is quality you want and/or you're after the kind of women who can make a sewage plant sexy by walking by it - then you're going to have to get real, and be Sincere.

[oaktree]

WOW, how weak do you have to be to get this kind for crap. Just be your self. it is far better then trying something that you are not.