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Old 10-21-2002, 04:32 AM
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My Girlfriend wants to get a vaginal suction pump for masturbation, and I want to know whether or not there are any issues with using them? Is it safe to draw so much blood in to the vulva?
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Old 10-21-2002, 03:02 PM
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I usually ignore this section labelled sex toys because I have little interest in them. The title of this thread got my attention.

Making the assumption that like most sex toys these are overpriced pieces of junk, there is not much to worry about. There are, however, some medical issues that can be concerning. Anything exerting a powerful suction on the female genitalia results in a great pushing action by the internal organs. This can actually press the vagina into a prolapse which is an undesireable condition. It is sometimes seen in women who wear extremely tight waist cinchers for extended periods. And then they buy vaginal rings to hold things in!

The regulars usually do not see me as being judgmental (I hope), but this seems very dumb to me - using one item to intentionally do harm to the body and then another artificial device to keep it together.

OK, vaginal pumps, which they really are not. They actually fit around the external female genitalia and supposed suck blood into the labia. Instead of pushing down the way an over-powered waist cincher or corset does, they pull. Of course to work, they need a good seal around a portion of the body where it is rather difficult to get a good seal because of body contours, hair and what have you. A good pulsating shower head for the same price would probably do more good.
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Old 10-22-2002, 03:07 PM
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There are many toys out there that are overpriced, and there are many toys that are pieces of junk. However, any woman who would put every sex toy into both categories has probably never had a decent vibrator in direct contact with her clitoris.

I have never used a clit pump, but I am somewhat curious about them. I have heard some rumors about the risks, and they do seem pretty scary, but answer me this: if pumps are as dangerous as you make them out to be, why are doctors prescribing them? check this out. These are the guys who made the pump, so naturally the info here is kind of one-sided, but the product did pass clinical tests.
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Old 10-22-2002, 03:18 PM
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Hey, Thanks I checked out the site.

This is a different item. This is a little device that sucks on your clitoris and stimulates blood flow. I know essentially nothing about them but it looks legit.

Now, go to google and enter "vaginal pump"

Different item. Rather innocuous I would think with the little hand bulb pump. If this were powered I would invoke my concerns above.
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Old 10-23-2002, 01:16 AM
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Brandye, Are you sure we're talking about different products? I assumed that the post was actually about clitoris pumps, because I've never heard of a vaginal pump. In fact, when I searched for "vaginal pump", I mainly found penis pumps with vulva-shaped openings. The few female-oriented products I did find appeared to actually be clitoris pumps along the same lines as the Eros thing, although some are a bit larger and therefore effect more of the vulva. What do you think the difference is?

Al-Bal, which product were you talking about?
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Old 10-23-2002, 02:54 PM
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Check out:

www.stockroom.com/a934.html

This is what I found through google
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Old 10-23-2002, 09:20 PM
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I'm still not convinced that these are completely differenct things. Unfortunately, Eros is pretty vague about what they're selling, probably in the interest of taste, but both are hand-powered with a bulb pump, and as I said, I think the main difference is in size. The Eros Therepy seems to only be big enough to effect the clitoris (although none of the pictures give a very good idea of the size), while the other pump covers the whole vulva. The Eros website gives no indication about what seperates their product from a regular clit pump, but that is probably because they don't want to admit that their "medical device" can be bought for less than half their price at any sex shop.

If the danger is in the effect on the vagina, than it is true that the Eros may be safer, since it doesn't cover the vaginal opening. However, there are other pumps available that only cover the clitoris (for considerably cheaper). Ironically, the heavily tested pump requires a doctor's prescription, but as far as I can tell, the untested and potentially dangerous pumps don't even come with a warning!
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By the way, According to BME, a website about body modifications, there is some risk of skin tears and abraisions from pumping. *However, they do say that this danger is usually minor and is easily avoided. *Keep in mind that they list far more risks for ordinary ear piercings.

For some reason, I can't link directly to that specific risk, but you can follow the link above and then click on either "vacuum pumping" under body modifications or "skin tears" under risks. *Unfortunately, using the "vacuum pumping" link involves looking at a kind of gross picture of a pierced and pumped penis, so I would advise using the "skin tears" link. *That one has no pictures.

If you are interested in pictures (of female pumping rather than male), there are some rather graphic ones here. For some reason, this woman is utalizing pumps intended for penises and nipples, rather than using regular clit pumps. The article may have been written before many manufacturers started making pumps for women.
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Old 10-24-2002, 03:10 AM
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just by looking at those pictures i say no woman should use any pump at all.
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Old 10-24-2002, 03:34 PM
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hee hee, I admit they're a bit of a turn off for me, too. However, the effect is only temporarary and I believe the clit-sized pumps have a less extreme, if more phallic affect. I found a few pictures of that at the bottom of this page. This woman is using a modified syringe. Unfortunately, there are no before or after shots, just during, but judging from the pictures I have seen of full-vulva pumping and penis pumping, the width tends to be effected more than the length, so it will probably look much less penis-like once the tube is removed.

As long as I'm posting links, I found an interesting article on the subject. Among other things, this person discusses the differences and similarities between Eros and other pumps.

And no one asked, but I discovered that Eros is significantly pricier than I thought (another thing their site is pretty vague about), so the kind you find in sex shops are actually closer to a tenth the price.
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