Are called for:

http://www.terb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=229569

It's one interesting discussion for a bunch of johns and hookers. Our species is indeed quite remarkable in all its permutations and combinations ... The guy with the 51 year old child and a 4 year old child! WOW!!

Read it and learn from the mistakes (or experiences) of others.

Play safe!