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Pornography and Women

[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I am looking for the female opinion on this. It seems that very few women enjoy watching hardcore porn. Most of my male friends will admit to watching porn on the internet. But only one girl I have met says she likes any kind of main stream hardcore pornography. She was a lesbian and had a very high libido, if it matters. I was wondering what in specific do you not like about it? What do you like about it? And, what needs to be changed in order to make it more appealing to you? I don’t think that women are less interested in sex then men; I just think that most porn is geared towards male viewers. [/SIZE][/FONT]

I love guy on guy porn...don't ask me why its just so hot. Heterosexual porn can be interesting too, if the people in it are hot...lesbian porn is boring, its just pussy eating...

Anyways I think women are less visual than men, thats why they don't watch porn as much...I only watch it when I'm bored/want to get horny on my own and have no ideas.

A research project, Saint? Just trying to get your jollies?

In all your research you must have learned that men think, at least subliminally, about sex every eight minutes; women only half that. And that young women tend to be attracted tp romantic fantasy rather more than explicit sex.

Clearly the porn online is geared more to the young man than the young woman. Very few women really enjoy ending most love making with a face full of what the man has to offer.

Why most women do not like hardcore IT IS ALL ABOUT HIM pornography? Perhaps it is because women are disregarded because hardcore pornography is ALL ABOUT HIM.

How can you tell a man watches hardcore pornography?
He is a rotten lover.

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[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Let me clarify both my motives for asking these questions and the question it’s self. First off, I think that most main stream hardcore porn is disgusting. It is degrading to women and dose very little for me. I never got the point of the man always pulling out and coming on the woman. I think a woman coming is a lot hotter then the man, but you almost never see that. I do have a free membership to a porn site but I usually read the short stories and look at some of the better photos because I think they are hotter. [/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I think there has to be a market for a good quality porn site. One that is not degrading to woman, that targets both genders as its audience, that’s video contain some kind of sexual tension and isn’t just about hardcore f**king. I was thinking you would base the plots of the videos off good erotic short stories. Put actors/actress together that have some sort of chemistry between them. Get rid of the over efficacies on the male orgasm and show women actually coming. Not that I would actually ever do this, but I was wondering what women would and wouldn’t want to see in porn if they were to watch it?[/SIZE][/FONT]

I'm a woman and I like hardcore porn (and am not a lesbian although I do have a sky high sex drive).

I am a woman and I like hardcore porn. I do not generally like hardcore MAINSTREAM porn, however. Mostly for the same reasons you have stated. If I am watching a woman get pounded really hard, then she had better actually like it. You can tell by how wet she is, whether or not her clit is enlarged and also by her body language. I only enjoy porn that has women in it if they are having real orgasms.

I do not have any issue with facials, bdsm, or anal, but both parties should be getting equal pleasure out of it, not just the giver. The problem with most mainstream porn can be summed up in an argument I had with my ex boyfriend:

Me: "I don't like watching women involved in sex acts if they aren't getting pleasure out of it. Ninety percent of the women in the kind of porn you enjoy are just pretending to like it, but they aren't enjoying themselves at all."

Ex: "Yeah, but that's why I only like porn with good actors."

I think that about sums it up.

The kind of porn I enjoy has hardcore imagery and generally no story line. Just sex. I enjoy watching men get BJ's, I enjoy watching women get eaten out, I enjoy watching a girl enjoy getting screwed, and more. There is no story line, but there is a real sexual connection between partners. Both or all parties are properly aroused. All parties get what they want out of the encounter and the focus equally on both parties sexual pleasure.

Oh, I also really enjoy watching movies involving female ejaculation. Since I also FE and know the true signs of it, when I find porn that has real, actual squirting, I absolutely love it. Cytherea is probably my favorite porn star, even though she does do a fair amount of mainstream hardcore porn. The difference with her, is that she tells her partners what she wants and gets it.

[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Thanks for your opinion, anymore would be greatly appreciated.[/SIZE][/FONT]

Emilie that is very astute............

I don't like it.
In my experience, it's degrading, disrespectful and most often downright misogynistic.
I think it's harmfull to women and relationships.
I have yet to see any professional porn depict anything but this.

However, I've seen some amature work that shows what sex should be (IMHO) loving, respectful and fun.

I find all porn unreal in portraying what the majority of ppl do. that does not mean I dont like watching it sometimes :).

take for example BJs in porn, how many guys out there like it when thier girl slaps their face with your dick? or gag in front of you? Porn is very man-centric because that is the main target audience in my opinion.

for some watchable porn. most stuff from the 70s and 80s when there was an effort to act and story line makes it a little more palatable.

I like to watch porn but I too am tired of the women "acting" like they like what is being done to them or if they are just performing for the pay check. Sometimes I think if I were younger I would do some porn. Just f*cking, sucking, having a black man vid because I was having a great time and wanted to share! mmmm
Sometimes I think of writing script for porn, I have some very hot ideas which I haven't seen performed and I've looked at a lot. I would want the people involved to be into what they were doing though. Just my 2 cents...........milf

I like the porn which focuses on the female or atleast seems mutual. The guy telling the chick he wants her to cum for him and how he loves how wet she is.. things like that are hot to me.. but don't see much of it. Overall porn seems overrated. From my experience once a guy gets rid of his virginity, porn seems boring. Well that's what I've heard from my male friends, but I know this isn't the case for many men.

[QUOTE=EvilEvilKitten;216959]Why most women do not like hardcore IT IS ALL ABOUT HIM pornography? Perhaps it is because women are disregarded because hardcore pornography is ALL ABOUT HIM.

How can you tell a man watches hardcore pornography?
He is a rotten lover.[/QUOTE]

I'd have to say I take offense to that.

Judging by my most recent girlfriend's responses in bed, and often-times damn near begging for sex, I'd have to say she thought I was at least pretty alright, if not very very good. And even if I didn't succeed 100% of the time, my goal was always to make her achieve at least 3 orgasms that were big enough for me to notice. There was never a time we had sex when she did not climax. Conversely, it was rare for me to climax during sex. This is because I do it for her.

Wondering how much hardcore porn I have?

10-ish GB and counting.

So I guess there's not much correlation between watching hardcore porn and performing well in bed.

[QUOTE=Ladentide;218377]I'd have to say I take offense to that.

Judging by my most recent girlfriend's responses in bed, and often-times damn near begging for sex, I'd have to say she thought I was at least pretty alright, if not very very good. And even if I didn't succeed 100% of the time, my goal was always to make her achieve at least 3 orgasms that were big enough for me to notice. There was never a time we had sex when she did not climax. Conversely, it was rare for me to climax during sex. This is because I do it for her.

Wondering how much hardcore porn I have?

10-ish GB and counting.

So I guess there's not much correlation between watching hardcore porn and performing well in bed.[/QUOTE]

take it from a girl whose boyfriend has pretty much the same mantra, she probably enjoys having you orgasm during sex as you do when she orgasms. i feel pretty guilty at times when i know he's concentrating only on me when i want him to enjoy it as well.

and the guys in hardcore porn, at least the mainstream stuff, don't have your mantra that "the woman comes first." that's the point EEK was trying to make. so therefore guys who expect sex to be like it is in porn wouldn't be the best lovers.

As time goes on, I seem to becoming less interested in watching porn. Too much of it seems to be about domination over the woman, and there are a lot of turn-offs for me. I absolutely hate it when I see someone dribbling spit on the other person. Yuk, instant turn-off.

The older stuff from the 70s was better, as there was less of the domination aspect and more about people having fun.

Its all just a lot of bad acting though.

@Wahoowa: If you're feeling guilty about it, that's not really his fault.

That's like saying someone's bad at choosing birthday presents because they always give you better presents than you give them, or don't even expect anything back.

Take what you have and go with it, no reason to feel guilty. At least he's good at what he does.

Porn doesn't do anything for me, nor do I really have anything against it. I just don't like it being thrown in my face, ie having smutty pictures posted in a workplace etc, or guys trying to get me to watch it with them.

Ladentide - you cannot take your personal experience and extrapolate from that to the rest of the male population. Why? Because your "sample" is too small. How many women versus how many hours watching pornography?

And you cannot discuss the point with your buddies because they will lie.

Women however will not lie, not when they're with friends. So, taking their experiences, my experiences - with far more men than most would think possible because we're all swingers and, dare I say it, sex fiends - yes there is a correlation between hours watched, type of porn watched, and his skill level. More + hard core = poor.

Don't get ideas from pornography - get your ideas from her!

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I love porn, i really do. But most of the time, it doesn't turn me on. I just like too look, an go 'oh,right' or 'oh, i do that'. I like lesbian porn best.

I like watching porn. Mostly I like watching my husband watch porn with me right next to him. To know that what he's seeing is what he wants to do to me is a HUGE turn on. When I was younger and in difficult relationships I found porn to be personally insulting. Like the person I was with was actually saying "why aren't YOU like her?" Now it's a helpful marital aid.

[QUOTE=EvilEvilKitten;216959]
How can you tell a man watches hardcore pornography?
He is a rotten lover.[/QUOTE]

I couldn't disagree with this more. Why does a man watch hardcore pornography? Because men are naturally hardwired to respond more to visual stimulation. And the porn companies exploit this to make a quick buck.

[QUOTE=EvilEvilKitten;219235]Ladentide - you cannot take your personal experience and extrapolate from that to the rest of the male population. Why? Because your "sample" is too small. How many women versus how many hours watching pornography?

And you cannot discuss the point with your buddies because they will lie.

Women however will not lie, not when they're with friends. So, taking their experiences, my experiences - with far more men than most would think possible because we're all swingers and, dare I say it, sex fiends - yes there is a correlation between hours watched, type of porn watched, and his skill level. More + hard core = poor.

Don't get ideas from pornography - get your ideas from her![/QUOTE]

I get a kick out of women who point fingers at men and accuse them as the sole perpetrator of bad sex. Are women totally blameless when they won't communicate what they do like in bed, but then complain to their friends? I'd say that women are just as responsible.

Furthermore, while we're stereotyping here, I think I'll start a correlation where the more Oprah, Sex In The City, The View, and Doctor Phil the woman watches the larger her dress size becomes.

But, not to sound completely argumentative I will agree with the last point. But add that most men are aware that pornography is simply junk entertainment, and not instructional information. If they don't see porn that way, it's not the porn, it's simply that they are ignorant.

Now now I do not hold women excused from being poor in bed - often times they are.

I believe the hardcore pornagraphy genre apeals to men in the same way a strip club does.

Not in its sexual offering nature.

A strip is a place where beautiful women approach and flirt with average guys.....for money but with the music lights and over the top slutty outfits all count as a distraction to the reality. The fantasy is "This woman wants my attention" to where in real life its the other way around. Men approach gorgeous women and offer them all their attention.

Pornography is the hardcore version of this mentality. Typically sex is reguarded to men in a fashion of luck and most men feel they have little control over what they can and cant do with the woman in the sack especially early on alot of guys have that "I dont want to give her a reason to put her clothes back on and not **** me again"

So the porno flips that insecure attitude over and pornos display a woman who serves without question hesitation or doubt. In a way you could perceive that she is in fear of his rejection.

GRANTED most men could fulfill these dirty fantasies if they had the courage and comfort to just go for what they want and not have a hissy fit when rejected.

Then again most men wouldnt need strip clubs if they could just have the social confidence and chat up the sexy woman at the bar/party without hesitation and fear of rejection.

SO, looks like all that wont change any time soon.

Personally i have experienced all this within my own social growth. I took an active attitude to be honest and open with all these things.

And if anybody has a fantasy just say it without hesitation and react to his/her response..... who cares if they say no. Try a different fantasy next time or try on the next person you bone.

Or watch porn :)

Further to the last poster, men could also just do it right and just pay for sex. Women will screw with your mind and half of them seem to afraid of really getting into sex (read the one about that woman who was afraid to G-spot orgasm and would rather fell terrible than enjoy her own orgasm? Freakin' nutz, but that's women for you...). Men tend not to be like this.

That said, prostitutes, the better sort anyways, know how to play this game well and can get into it and even enjoy it. Read the reviews carefully and select accordingly and the rewards can be yours. Otherwise, enjoy the hit and miss nonsense of the civillian world.

As for porn, yeah, it gets dull after awhile, after all, it's the same dang thing over and over again. That said, I've never not enjoyed the feeling of a bowel movement. It's always relieving afterwards...

So it goes...

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