the 'male orgasm'

[dolllfacee]

OK well someone told me not to long ago that apparently when a guy cums isnt actually when he orgasms. They said they read somewhere that a guy can orgasm without cuming at all, during it, or up to 3 times before it.
Does anyone kno if this true?? and if it is, how do u know when hes actually having an orgasm??
thanks xo

[mikkiji]

Although orgasm and ejaculation in men CAN become separate events, this is neither common nor easy to achieve. Only a man who is well-trained in Tantra can hope to get to the point of having a climax without ejaculating at the same time. The spiritual and physical demands of Tantra can, over time, enable a man to have an orgasm and not ejaculate, which in addition also enables the guy to have many orgasms one after another (like a woman can) and to experience them all over his body and not just locally in the genitals. You will not find very many men who have fully achieved this. I have been practicing meditation, yoga and yogic breathing routines daily for over 35 years now, and learned the basics of tantric control 6 or 8 years ago. I finally reached the level of control and awareness necessary to have non-ejaculatory orgasms only a couple of years ago, at the age of 55. And, by the way, this is WAY more than merely a sexual thing, it's a level of yogic evolution, a step toward enlightenment, a major milestone in one's spiritual progress...
Michael

[funinthesun]

No, you do not need to be trained in "Tantra" to experience that.

You know if he has the same way you know if a woman has. Nipples become erect, the body becomes flushed, a layer of sweat breaks out, muscles twitch, his PC muscles spasm, goosebumps, etc.

The better overall physical health someone has, the more those things will stand out.

[lnt1103]

Do a search of the site, I know this has been talked about several times in the forums, I just can't quote you who or what thread. I think the main site has info as well.

The gist of it is, orgasm and ejaculation in males are so often simultaneous that they are often assumed to be either A) one and the same, or B)impossible to separate. It's just not the case.

T and I have never discussed Tantra, but I can guarantee you he's not the type to add spirituality into sex. Once during a BJ, he had one hand twitching so extensively I paused to ask him if he was tapping out. He wasn't. If that wasn't an orgasm I need a new dictionary, and there was no ejaculation going on at the time.

[mikkiji]

Excuse some vagueness in my reply above. What I meant to say was that to regularly and purposefully achieve non-ejaculatory orgasms, one normally requires practice and technique, that it will seldom happen spontaneously. And I can't quite understand how spirituality can be removed from sex--it does not need to be "added", it's there all the time...
Michael

[lnt1103]

I guess I think of sex more along the lines of the physicality of self-expression and the personal bonding of two people, rather than spirituality per se. I mean, granted there's a lot of "Ohmygod", but that's not the same thing

And I didn't mean for my post to come out as harshly toward yours as I now think it may have. That hand twitch was nothing if not spontaneous, though

[STARLIT]

Hey i need some advice for good for to do on my husband to drive him wild before we get in to sex any idears

[EvilEvilKitten]

Starlit - find and then do The Program on him.

The flexing of the PC muscle and the firing of the attendant nerves is the orgasm while the ejaculation is another thing.

To achieve this practice Edge Play which is to bring him up to the point of orgasm and back off - repeat, repeat, repeat, then let him orgaasm. Men can help out this process by masturbating in a similar fashion. Kegels will also help.

It will require practice!

[dlb]

To "cum" or come is slang for to have and orgasm.
So actually, yes. When a man comes (cums) he has an orgasm.

[lnt1103]

I thought 'cum' was slang for the ejaculate.

Isn't this one of those 'If A then B, but just because B not necessarily A' situations?