Kivin Method

[alanjobe]

I have search long and hard for this method and I'm having difficulty understanding how i'd actually do it to please my wife. Can someone please explain...

BTW this forum is spectacular!

[Brandye]

I never realized that there was a special name for what many of us discover on our own. Essentially, the method seems to be built around massaging the perineum while performing cunnilingus. The stuff I found talks about laying at angles, which is fine, but what makes the difference is placing the flat of your thumb or finger against the flat area between her vaginal and anal openings and pressing rhythmically while kissing her genitals - especially with the tongue on the clitoris.

What is happening is the pressure on the perineum is getting the rectal (or anal) sphincter muscles stimulated. They are the strongest muscles involved in female orgasms and really heighten the pleasure. For women who do not wish anal play, this gets those muscles involved without violating the limits she may otherwise place. Eventually, this may turn into anal play along with oral stimulation.

Whatever other elements may be in the position, I really appreciate this being done for me.

[bluetide76]

So would you do this say more in the middle of cunnilingus? For instance, say I start out teasing with kisses and sucking around her genital area then I start cunnilingus on her vagina and clit. After that mix in this method before moving on to gspot stimulation. Continued oral of course. Seem right or should there be a different setup/order to things?

[EvilEvilKitten]

There is no set order of things but I'd say cunnilingus, then Kivin with cunnlingus, then Cunnilingus with manual G-Spot, myself - seems a natural progression.

[dancingdoc2]

explained and demonstrated on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fceA0k3E3bM

365 Days of Sensational Sex

Man oh man... this ol' man is gonna have some F U N this weekend!

I hope this helps clarify this apparently magical technique.

How about some feedback from those who try this?

[funinthesun]

It seems to me that the Kivin method in the youtube clip, thanks Dancindoc, utilizes a few things that really help get it going.

Many people skimp on foreplay, and can make things more difficult. Personally, I try to keep away from direct clit contact as long as possible to build up more anticipation. I focus on all all of the areas around it, with an occasional flick, but I usually go in a closing in pattern. This maintains a constant, slowly building stimulation. I move maintaining touch so the rhythm isn't interrupted and things blend together, no surprising stop and go. My current partner has difficultly letting go, and this greatly helped. The Kivin does this as well, helping increase arousal like foreplay, but letting you get to it faster for those who simply can't wait to dive in there(or have done to them).

As for bluetides question, I'd do this at the start. I've never met a girl who wanted you to turn it down in the middle or near the end and go away from her clit. Starting slower and building up however........

I prefer to do something very similar to this but use my tongue and go up and down/left and right in the same area as the girl in the video instead of a finger, while having a finger massaging the entrance to her vagina. Sometimes I'll massage around her anus as well or by itself. I increase pressur e or slide my finger across the most sensitive part of her anus everytime I get very close to or touch her clit so the strong sensations all hit at once and blend together. This is especially important if she's never had anyone touch her down there so she won't be uncomfortable.

Side bonus: she now loves it when I play with her anus as well, and she asked me to start doing more without me ever bringing it up. While doing this one time with her straddling my face she reached back, held my hand where it was then lowered herself so I was inside her. Great way to introduce anal play.

[bWg]

Alright, well, the video explains it well, but I'm a little confused. When do you actually put pressure on the perineum?

Also, Brandye said to "press rhythmically" whereas the woman on the film made it sound like you just put constant pressure on it. Do both work or does one work better than the other?

Lastly, do you make contact with the clitoris just before or during the orgasm?

[funinthesun]

I believe what Brandye meant with the rhythmic pressures was to do it at the same time the girl contracts. For the Kivin method you'd probably move to put pressure on the perineum after a couple minutes, gaging on your woman's arousal and reactions. There's really no set time, it's more a matter of reading your woman.

You'd probably want constant pressure, and increasing this pressure each time you feel a contraction.

This is just my personal experience from what girls preferred me to do, and what feels good when my own is going down on me while putting pressure on the same area.

As for when to start on the clit, here are some signs I've found:
Her hips begin bucking, trying to move you onto it
Hands have been randomly grasping the sheets/general writhing around for a couple minutes
Body quivers
vag/anus clenching and holding

[bWg]

I can tell a climax from normal ecstasy, but my question wasn't when the climax was. Is the best time to actually bring the clit into play just before or during the climax itself? Does it fuel the orgasm or cause it?

Thank you for the response to my other questions. I'll definitely be trying this out.

[funinthesun]

Sorry for not clarifying-- the girls I've been with do those things PRIOR to orgasms, and that's when I know to go more direct or turn it up if I'm already there. I'm sure some can finish without direct contact, but the girls I've been with will stay just prior to an orgasm until something direct.

If she's already had an orgasm or few, then it'd probably make it much easier for her to orgasm from the indirect flicking, and then going right on as she's orgasming could really make it huge.