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Old 09-08-2008, 03:17 PM
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Promise Rings

Last night on the VMA's Russell Brand, who alot of us here in the US have never heard of went a little over board, in my opinion, with the Jonas brothers and the fact that they wear one.
Later Jordin Sparks, of American Idol fame, stated "It's not bad to wear a promise ring, because not everybody, guy or girl, wants to be a slut." and later at a party, Sparks defended her speech. "Somebody had to do it."
My issue is more with Ms. Sparks, sex before marriage does NOT make you a slut.
Mr. Brand apologized or at least tried to (didn't want to upset fans of the Jonas brothers, where is her's?
And who are these Jonas brothers???
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Old 09-08-2008, 06:43 PM
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You have to follow Hanna Montana [Miley Cirus] and her episodes to get a feel for the Jonas brothers. They appeal to the 4-13 y/o crowd. I only know since I have had the kids!
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Old 09-08-2008, 06:55 PM
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Her dad was ok, his hair is as well known as the Donald's and I don't like either do.
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Old 09-08-2008, 07:04 PM
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Her father I agree was okay...her? well, sorry not my thing the kids love it though & the J. Brothers [not sure if it's on the Disney or Nickelodeon channel].
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:15 PM
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I saw that on the video awards too. That really made me upset. I don't believe you have to fall into "virgin" or "slut". If I have sex with someone I love before I am married, why am I a slut?
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:28 PM
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Speaking as an adult virgin, let me say I have grown to hate something I used to be okay with. I really began to see keeping it as a less magical thing and I look forward to ending it. Sure, it doesn't seem matter much when your young, but it does start to hurt self esteem and worth the longer it goes on. Saying you want to be a virgin at 14 is cute, but double that and it isn't. Especially for a man. I have grown to hate it, personally. I do not see a person as a slut for being sexually active. Its quite normal to me now then it was growing up a bit reserved about it.

Marrying someone to lose your virginity is a HORRIBLE reason to get married. You let sexual hormones effect the choice of person you want to consider spending your life with.

Remember to take "virginity pledges" with a grain of salt. Many so called "virgins" are not true virgins as there is a percentage that engage in oral sex or other bodily sex and still call themselves virgins just because they have not had vaginal sex.
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:58 PM
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Lost One, my point exactly. Heck I'm 47 and never been married and well I lost my virginity when I was 14. To young yes, regrets nope.

I think a better promise is to be true to one's self. And to wait til you're 18. If you decide that you are ready for a relationship to take the next step come to a web site like this one and learn what it is you need to know before your first encounter. Having the male wear a condom is not just for birth control it's also for protection from a list of diseases.

If a 14 year old is to young to make an adult decision such as to have a sexual relationship, then they are also to young to make a promise NOT to have one til their wedding night. How many parents of these 14 year olds were virgins on their wedding night? Maybe their grandparents or great-grandparents but not a lot of their parents I'm guessing.

Is this promise a way of avoiding the talk until, you the mother of the bride are lowering the veil on your daughters wedding day?? Don't lay anymore guilt trips on kids then there already is. Is it actually more and more teenagers getting pregnant, or is it just now they are not hidden or even in some cases thrown into our faces when we turn on the news?
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Old 09-08-2008, 10:45 PM
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A guy I know at work is 22? with a 20 year old gf. They don't even kiss!

Its too bad we almost all tend to get messed up either way. Some of us are more conservative and only learn about sex late and others get too much sex very young.

People want to teach to abstain from having sex or sex education. How about someone teach NORMAL! Everyone should be taught its okay to have sex with anyone they want but be safe and self ready. Being taught nothing or getting sex immaturely is whats causing diseases and pregnancy in my opinion.
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I'm 52 and never been married. Do these people really expect me to have remained a virgin at my age, possibly for life? Well, screw that idea (literally). Taking a virginity pledge just to conform with somebody else's view of morality is wrong, in my opinion. Nobody has the right to demand that another person deprive themselves of the enjoyment of sex indefinitely. THAT is a form of immorality.
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Old 09-19-2008, 09:41 PM
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Its all the new Disney Channel... I miss the old Disney (mickey mouse, donald duck, goofy etc)

Their music is a pathetic excuse for "rock"
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