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Old 10-12-2007, 09:03 PM
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from what i remember, the central goth philosophy is that it is a group where those that have been outcast by society can join together and be in the company of those who are more accepting or open minded, not to bash the "conformists" or promote violence.

of course i know that is not always the case, especially not with the "goths" of my generation
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:02 PM
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from what i remember, the central goth philosophy is that it is a group where those that have been outcast by society can join together and be in the company of those who are more accepting or open minded, not to bash the "conformists" or promote violence.

of course i know that is not always the case, especially not with the "goths" of my generation
I know when I was about 16, I was searching for my own identity & did not want to appear as all other women did. I had long blond, wavy hair with a tailored look. In this search I did not wish to look as all others did. Hence, I had my my hair cut off, bobbed and in an asymmetrical look, partial shave on one side. I later had it colored dark, had my ears pierced all the way up. Wore black leggings, black scrunch boots, a black pin-stripped swing coat, and tight shirts. I was seeking a look of non-conformity & this was a shock to many. I wanted to be an outcast form the cheerleader look...Listened to strange music, drive around in my Camaro, etc. There was not bashing or violence...I wanted to be an outcast for sometime & learned much about the Victorian Era. Slowly, I learned about the need to conform to enter a corporate environment. All in all, I was searching who I was...I only did this through changing my looks. Now, traditional & tailored and have been so for many years...love Chanel shoes & attire! It was a stage I out grew with time when I figured who I wanted to be! During this time I experimented with recreational drugs--coke. At 14 I was screwing around w/my bf, drinking at 15 & 16 when not driving, sneaking into bars, drag racing a '69 Camaro & Corvette w/ a L-82, hanging at concerts. In time I realized I had to grow up & march to my own drum by the age of 17/18. Still like Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Alice in Chains, and Black Sabbath. And Billy Idol...esp. Flesh for Fantasy. Gave my parents a run for their money...so to say.
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I know when I was about 16, I was searching for my own identity & did not want to appear as all other women did. I had long blond, wavy hair with a tailored look. In this search I did not wish to look as all others did. Hence, I had my my hair cut off, bobbed and in an asymmetrical look, partial shave on one side. I later had it colored dark, had my ears pierced all the way up. Wore black leggings, black scrunch boots, a black pin-stripped swing coat, and tight shirts. I was seeking a look of non-conformity & this was a shock to many. I wanted to be an outcast form the cheerleader look...Listened to strange music, drive around in my Camaro, etc. There was not bashing or violence...I wanted to be an outcast for sometime & learned much about the Victorian Era. Slowly, I learned about the need to conform to enter a corporate environment. All in all, I was searching who I was...I only did this through changing my looks. Now, traditional & tailored and have been so for many years...love Chanel shoes & attire! It was a stage I out grew with time when I figured who I wanted to be! During this time I experimented with recreational drugs--coke. At 14 I was screwing around w/my bf, drinking at 15 & 16 when not driving, sneaking into bars, drag racing a '69 Camaro & Corvette w/ a L-82, hanging at concerts. In time I realized I had to grow up & march to my own drum by the age of 17/18. Still like Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Alice in Chains, and Black Sabbath. And Billy Idol...esp. Flesh for Fantasy. Gave my parents a run for their money...so to say.
Hey Sera,

I don't usually post, but what you said hit a chord -
I'm from a "broken home" - parents divorced at 4 years old, mother "decided" she was gay and had a string of "special" friends until she moved out of home and left me and my brother at 16 years old. Father died at 18 years old, and after being a high / over achiever at school and Uni, with a leaning towards metal/ goth/ punk scene, I finally left EVERYTHING behind at 21 and emigrated to foreign country.
Now 28, married for 4 years, pulling in 45K+ p.a. (corporate rock whore :-) ), and listening / playing Metallica, Less Than Jake, NUFAN, various blues etc for fun.
To anyone out there who is having doubts - YOU decide what direction your life takes, and anyone who tells you otherwise can get ****ED :-)
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:16 AM
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Hey Sera,

I don't usually post, but what you said hit a chord -
I'm from a "broken home" - parents divorced at 4 years old, mother "decided" she was gay and had a string of "special" friends until she moved out of home and left me and my brother at 16 years old. Father died at 18 years old, and after being a high / over achiever at school and Uni, with a leaning towards metal/ goth/ punk scene, I finally left EVERYTHING behind at 21 and emigrated to foreign country.
Now 28, married for 4 years, pulling in 45K+ p.a. (corporate rock whore :-) ), and listening / playing Metallica, Less Than Jake, NUFAN, various blues etc for fun.
To anyone out there who is having doubts - YOU decide what direction your life takes, and anyone who tells you otherwise can get ****ED :-)
I grew up in such a "normal family life"---I wanted to know what was abnormal. One thing learned; teaches you to step out [and to think outside] of the box & be whatever you want in life, it's limitless. Life is to be seized and is there for the taking. Boundaries are only those in an individuals mind!
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