Sibling Incest/Masturbation

[Rawbob]

If you read the Kinsey studies, you'll find that MOST siblings explore sexuality during their puberty years. More than 70% of men with brothers near their age, had admitted to watching or touching each other as teens.

Now, exploration is one thing, penetration is another.

I would NOT consider what the original poster wrote as INCEST.

[sexykitty]

There are a couple past posts that I would like to reply to first:

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]Just for the record, I am repulsed by the idea of incest (as I am by a number of other things). However, it's not my place (nor anyone else's) to brand people or to tell consenting adults what they can or can't do in the privacy of their own life!

"Consenting adults" would be persons 18 years of age or older. We are not talking about adults here, we are talking about children. Children should not know enough to masturbate in front of eachother. When children are little (2-4 years old) they are curious about what other's genitals look like. A child older than that may still be curious, but how many of them would reach out and touch someone else? Really, where do these people come from that would masturbate with eachother? I have never heard of anyone that did this unless they were sexually abused as a young child.
Second:

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]What the hell is wrong with some of you. It's just another f***ing person. I mean having sex and stuff is really weird... it is taboo and I see HOW you think it's WRONG but it's only wrong to people. It's not wrong to nature. Like masturbating in front of each other? I beat you at least 25% of people have seen or been with siblings while masturbating. The rape part and stuff and being forced to I do see WRONG because it's wrong no matter WHO it is. But if it's just your sister and shes masturbating and sees you walk by and tells you to walk in and its been your fantasy to see her for some reason (maybe she appeals to you or your curious or step sister or something) so you start masturbating. (Male or female) I mean come on it's not like there's any harm in that. It's experience, curiosity, and other things. So really why is everyone so pissy about it SHE JUST WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT ANY EXPERIENCES AND GENERAL THOUGHTS not freakin hate flames. Jesus..

Why on earth would you think that 25% of people have masturbated with their siblings?? I think that number is an extreme over exaggeration... The people who posted on this topic agree with the large majority of people in our country who don't think that this behavior is right. Incest (whether sex or another sexual act) is not a normal behavior that everyone acts upon. Children are not sexual at a young age unless they have been abused or are exposed to sex. Most of us (speaking for myself and those I know) know that this behavior is wrong. If you think that it's ok I would wonder what you have grown up around.

Sorry if I offended anyone but this topic makes my blood boil.

[RoseLover]

Ok... let me figure out a way to start this... First off, I can understand why the majority would see incest as wrong... and in many situations, I suppose I do as well. I mean, if I found out my younger sister was doing something with her brothers (we have different fathers) I agree, I'd be a tad bit upset... but I don't know. I think there are circumstances to everything.

Allow me to add now, though I know that this could forever alter the way I'm viewed by anyone reading this, I am in love with my sister. Now... before you allow any comments to bubble in your minds and find their way to your screen and mine, allow me to explain. Long story short... my father is a man-whore. A worthless piece of shit nonetheless. My mother... was a silly young woman who felt love for every man who treated her the slightest bit nice. By the time my parents met... my father had already had a daughter, Lets call her J. She is not my love. My father, unfortuantly, failed to tell my mother that he was with another woman when he and my mother started messing around. (no, this woman was not J's mother. See, he was/is a whore)

Now on the wonderful night that I was concieved, my fathers wife was giving birth to her daughter, my love, Rose. And cut to one year later... I was born. Now, Rose's mother, shall we call her C? C never really liked me or my mother... for obvious reasons, though she was always obsessed with my father... or as I like to refer to him, the spermdoner. He had a couple of other kids with various women before going to jail for some charge which I don't remember. when he came out.... I was 16 and my girlfriend was 17. he started messing around with C and decided to reach out to his children. Lucky me... I happen to be one of them.through him... I was introduced to C. We got along pretty well... it had seemed she had gotten over whatever problems she had with me. After a couple of months, she brought me to her house... and there I met Rose. Rose was the most beautiful girl/woman I had ever seen.(she continues to be) we got to know each other... and became very close. ( allow me to explain now... my home life was very much shit... and I had problems feeling love for anyone. In the same sense... I couldn't see siblings as true siblings. I never felt feelings for any of my other sisters though, what I mean by this is my siblings were just very close people. I couldn't feel anything like that for them.) One wonderful night... Rose and I kissed each other, announcing our feelings for each other... and in the beautiful, bittersweet moment... our lives were changed forever.

Since then we have been together... and eventually began seeing each other as husband and wife. And yes... i realize this conflicts with my orginal post in std and sexual disorders and whatever... but when I wrote that I had not planned on coming out with this. That doesn't make my questin any less true... it is still a question out there.

So yes... thats my story... and honestly... I forgot where I was going with this. Simply put... there are circumstances... be them right in your minds or not. So, in my opinion... this is your world... it can not be avoided... much like with homosexuality and biracial relationships... there'll be those who agree, and those who do not. And yes, perhaps this is slightly different... but hey... I don't know. Whatever your opinion may be... I give you the freedom to have it... give me the freedom to live my life. I deal with enough of my own minds riticule and at times it gets rough.... but then I look across, to my baby... I remember why I'm still here. In short... Have your opinion... share it even... just don't insult. And finally... I leave you with this one quote from one of my favorite anime's, Angel Sanctuary, in which a suporting character is speaking with the lead character, who is a similiar situation.
"None of your persecutors has ever been in your shoes. These people are all observing from the gallery, smugly dispersing the smart but unoriginal moralist cliche."

[RoseLover]

Wow, it'd seem as if my little story killed this topic... didn't it?

[nodoubt16pb]

You are right roselover. Thanks for sharing your story to make the small minded people see the world in a different way. Congratulations that you found that woman who wowed you all over I hope you two have a wonderful life.... and this story makes people see how different people are and that people do different things... so thank you for your story hopefully opened some minds
THE BEST OF LUCK IN EVERYTHING!!!!! You had a crappy past you deserve to be happy now

[RoseLover]

Thanks alot... I was really not expecting that mature of a response. Once again Thanks!!

[sexykitty]

I think there is a huge difference between siblings who never knew each other and those who grew up together in the same household as siblings. Every so often you do hear of a couple who fall in love and then find out they are siblings. I honestly don't know what the right answer for that would be. Now because you are related by blood, if you decide to have children there could be problems, and you can't get married. As always there are circumstances to every case that would alter the perception. You are also an adult and are free to make your own decisions. You will probably be faced with opposition throughout your life if you continue your relationship with your sister because it is not the norm. Most people do not make an informed decision to have a sexual relationship with a family member. IMO I think most adults would hear this and say ew.

[mike]

Well really... what is love? If you honestly think that you love your sister, then how can anyone else know your emotions and tell you otherwise?

Of course though, you can't legally marry (at least in the US, no idea about other places), and if you ever had children together, there are genetic issues...

[RoseLover]

Believe me... I realize this. As far as the oposition, I've been dealing with it since I decided to go for this. But as far as I'm concerned, I value the relationship far too much to allow the opinions of other bother me. And yes... I know we can not be legally married here, believe me, I have searched for every single loophole by this point. And lastly, the children topic, I realize the chances of problems, I've done all the research, heard the results of so many studies. And on top of that, I've gotten a genetic report done... alteast I believe that is what it is called... it was so long ago. She also got one done.And according to the results, our child only has a 7% higher chance than something being wrong with any of your children. For those who do not know... 'inbreeding' ( I hate that word) doesn't instantly result in a deformed or retarded child... after a few generations of continued 'inbreeding' the chance increase drastically.

[?wiseman?]

Roselover, sounds like you've done a good deal of research, as well as sole searching, and I respect that. While I don't condone your relationship (not that you need mine or anyone else's approval) I respect the fact that you've made your decision with your eyes wide open. The one suggestion that I have is with respect to a potential child. While you believe the risk to be low for genetic problems, as you point out, they do exist. Equally important, you must consider the social implications that your child would face. Best of Luck to you.