> i hardly feel her when shes very turned on and thats with no condom. if i wear a condom i cant feel her at all and i start to go limp. isnt this basically proof im not the only one cuz if i wuz she should be some what tight.

Not necessarily. DO NOT jump to any conclusions. Not every woman is inherently "tight", especially when aroused. The vagina is "tight" when the person is not excited. When a woman becomes aroused vaginal fluids begin to be secreted. Becoming sexually excited makes the vagina easy to penetrate and that does not mean she has a loose vagina. The body secretes vaginal fluid to get the vagina ready for penetration. This is normal; however the amount and consistency of mucus varies throughout the month as well as by how aroused she has become at that moment.

Now, let's extrapolate your thought on this. For the sake of this discussion, let's say she was a virgin up until she met up with you. The two of you begin having intercourse, and then you notice several months later that she has become "loose". What will happen in the future? Using your logic, in a few years, intercourse will be completely out of the question.

Furthermore, if she gives birth then the vagina will be permanently stretched all out of proportion. This is just not so, although, if she has an episiotomy that is not repaired, she can remain "loose" after the birth. Although, rare nowadays, it is a possibility.

If she enjoys fingering herself, uses dildos or toys, it is possible for the vagina to become more pliable.

> i am 5" thick which is said to be average. this is a problem because i think this is why shes so hard to get to climax.

This is a contradiction. If 5" is average, then how can this be a problem for you and not the rest of the population who are also average? Where's the logic?

> we do have pleny of forplay so that cant be it.

You are correct. Now, let's look at what is the likely culprit by reexamining how the male and female of the species masturbates. The act involved continuous and ongoing friction, generally applied by stroking or rubbing.

Very few sexual positions bring the woman's pieces-parts into constant contact with her partner's body. Bouncing around, simply does not generate friction; although these actions can trigger an orgasm at that time. So what is a couple to do knowing this? Generally what a knowledgeable and skilled lover will do is to reach around and finger his partner while stroking away. If it is her wish, she may have an orgasm before and/or after intercourse as well.

> ...and if i can barely feel her she probably can barely feel me.

Yes and no. There are no nerves inside the vagina so a woman cannot feel a penis; however, there are many many sensitive nerve endings in and around the vaginal opening that contribute to her enjoyment and pleasure.

Please read what our resident M.D., Brandye, has had to say on the matter:
http://www.sexinfo101.com/forum/pleasing_her/15920-the_vagina.html?highl...

http://www.sexinfo101.com/forum/pleasing_him/14785-what_can_women_feel_w...

What women do state as both important and stimulating is a sense of "fullness" within the vagina that a penis produces.

Horndog, you are NOT doing it correctly! Yegods man do you have any idea of where her G-Spot is? How about the posterior fornix? Dancin' Doc is quite right - use the clitoris too! What did you think it was there for?

Now then, loose or not, PFFT, nevermind that - rub the head of your penis on her G-Spot, let her orgasm, then move the head of your penis to her posterior fornix and caress there until she orgasms and then switch back and forth until she's incandescent where upon it is your turn to orgasm. She should be doing her Kegels (as should you) and she might also want to practice using her abdominal muscles to clamp down on your penis while it is inside of her. Encourage her to move and to participate as well.

Women do 'loosen up' when they are aroused. This is a good thing because otherwise you'd be rubbing your penis with sandpaper held in a tight vice. If you want to experience that go out to your garage and have fun.

That is "proof" only of your ignorance. From the first elimination of the hymen, the only real "looseners" a woman has are child-bearing and weight gain. The tools you guys use are easily handled by most of us with little stretching.