I'm in a long-term relationship... and he is still waiting for marriage. I don't really want to wait, and when we are together, I know he doesn't either. Does anyone think that there's any way I could get it out of him? Is it offensive if all I want is to have him do what I know (and what he's admitted to) he wants?
For the record: we're not 16 year olds (in which case, waiting would be a novel idea) we're both at the brink of graduating college; also, he doesn't do any of the "alternatives," so when I say waiting for marriage, I mean for everything beyond kissing.
Thanks,
E


If that's what he says he wants, then respect his choice. Yes, I'm sure that he's horny and wants to have sex, but apparently his will is stronger than his hormones. I'm sure that if you really tried, you could, "get it out of him". However, he'd probably feel really bad about it afterwards. You have to ask yourself , is that's what you really want? There's nothing wrong with you wanting to have sex with him, but it sounds like he's just not ready for that, (there's nothing wrong with that either). Maybe it's time for you to move on, and find someone who is ready, if it's that important to you.
Just discuss it with him, but be very careful here because should he say yes I want to, it could cause a lot of problems. LIke being horny and wanting to, or only doing it cuz you want.
If you really want to discuss this though, expect it to take a long time of deep convo because I made my mind up to wait till marraige, but when I decide to change my mind, it took me a good month or so of thinking bfore I made up my mind.
I have to respect one who lives by his/her moral code. On the high side of twenty, I would want a test ride before making things permanent.
And you both are certain you are prepared if you marry and find out your not sexually compatible. As far as nothing more than a kiss, at your ages, are you certain you really belong together? And if you find out after marriage, you are not, are you willing to see alternatives?
In the mean time, the sale of "rampant rabbit" vibrators sky rockets...LOL
*Master Bulldog*
Do not marry a man you have not enjoyed sex with.
Sorry, but it is better to find if you are compatible BEFORE you marry him than AFTER you have married him.
Um ... I probably sound retarded asking this, but I've only had one boyfriend with whom I haven't had sexual intercourse with yet ... what do you mean by sexual compatibility?
Do your libidos match, do you light that fire deep inside him, and does he light yours?
Last thing you want is a guy who doesnt ever satisfy you, is selfish, etc.
At least I am guessing thats what EEK meant.
[quote=Contessa;215556]Um ... I probably sound retarded asking this, but I've only had one boyfriend with whom I haven't had sexual intercourse with yet ... what do you mean by sexual compatibility?[/quote]
Marry a man who stands the test of time & no matter what wants/does have sex with you equally as often as you wish, you share the same enjoyment, and styles/adventure [willing to do new things when stagnant]. And you do the same for him. If not in the mood, you both compromise and help the other. If married for 50+ years, you still turn on the other & keep it going.
Thanks for the responses.
[QUOTE=Ducy;215252]If you really want to discuss this though, expect it to take a long time of deep convo because I made my mind up to wait till marraige, but when I decide to change my mind, it took me a good month or so of thinking bfore I made up my mind.[/QUOTE]
What made you change your mind?
I realized that I was doing it for the wrong reasons. I wasnt choosing to stay abstinent till marraige because I wanted to. I did it because...well A I went to a catholic school so obviously thats all they preach. B They had me sign a abstinence card which at the time I had little idea what it meant (6th grade lol) and C my parents pulled the...well your uncle had aids you could get it too from having sex...
Found out later he caught it because he was working at a hospital, his hand got caught in a machine which cut it terrible, and when they gave him a blood transfusion, it was HIV positive, and about 2 months later was full blown aids, so I thought wow living a lie, here I am not enjoying life, doing what I want all because of some stupid preachings and a lie.
So I decided I would just wait till I felt ready and was with someone I knew I would enjoy it with.
So enjoying your time now Ducy? LOL! :D;)
Virginity = ignorance. It was originally promulgated for several reasons and was based upon several erroneous beliefs.
To wit:
1. sex turned people away from God and made them devoted to their life here and now - wife and kids included.
2. sex is dirty, bestial, and repugnant - the ONLY way to make it decent and fit for humans was between married couples
3. even between married couples - sex was ONLY for reproduction
4. the woman who has sex was tainted forever and therefore became as 2 above (Lamarck) - as well as used goods
5. should a woman enjoy sex even within marriage - she was a slut and not worthy of her husband's respect and regard
6. if a husband screwed around outside of marriage and brought home a disease - it was his wife's fault
The onous fell upon women because St. Augustine of Hippo would get an erection if a lucious girl wandered by, naturally he blamed her because 'after all she was the daughter of Eve' the destroyer of Eden.
I find it interesting that your boyfriend would want to be a party to such a disgusting creed.
Your value as a human being does NOT lie between your legs!
I am aware that some think having sex without marriage "cheapens" the relationship, the woman, and maybe the man as well.
But there is nothing at all cheap about sex - it is such a wonderful way of expressing yourself!
I must say, your responses make me want to strap him down and have him read them...
I appreciate everyone's answers... except the one about the vibrator because as ladies know, it's no substitute for the real thing.
Ducy...he's doing it for the same reasons, some sort of church brainwashing and I can't get him to realize that I'm not just looking for that. I feel like if I've been here this long, I clearly care about more than sex, but I want that too! I don't know what to do to make him realize that it's probably not going to land him in hell if we love eachother... at least he says he loves me.
Sera:
Well...IDK your going to have to decide, cuz I mean with those two 21 year olds, its kinda hard to decide if I enjoy life or not :rolleyes:
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OF COURSE!!!!!
Hang on, Missy, I have a website for you. Just let me get the link.
http://www.iep.utm.edu/s/sexualit.htm
There you go.
In fact, you all would benefit from a close read of the text. Warning, this is the real stuff - philosophy & metaphysics - nice meaty thoughts for wrestling with.
Weird weird weird weird WEIRD!
Some one is bound to say that this sounds harsh, but I suspect that if you do marry this guy you are going to continue being frustrated sexually.