The Virgin Thread

[Rouge]

Originally Posted by EvilEvilKitten

Depends upon the 13 yr old and who the partner is - if he's/she's 15 then - eh as long as condoms are used. If the partner's 18 and up, THEN we have a problem.

True, but the possible consequences of sex really aren't something that someone of that age is ready to deal with.

[funinthesun]

Originally Posted by cico187

wow there you cant go off telling teens to slow down what comes naturally

Sure you can. The fight or flight response is natural, yet we educate and train people to fully analyze the situation and possible outcomes before making rash decisions to violence or abandonment. To take what you want is natural, yet we teach not to steal. Which natural urge has greater consequences - stealing a 6-pack from a beer truck on the spur of the moment or rushing in to have sex when you don't know a thing about it just to not be left out because "everyone's" doing it.



In regards to EEK's latest comments - Those girls are referred to at Wharton as the Diamond Dildo Club..........and nobody dates them.

[EvilEvilKitten]

I'm sure, funin, but you have to remember that 20 to 30 years doiwn the road, those same 'at Wharton' boys now really wished that they had dated them because they wouldn't be so maritally dysfunctional now as they leap from trophy wife to trophy wife "Is this your granddaughter?"

The problem is that I see these men all of the time and you guys do not.

[funinthesun]

Originally Posted by EvilEvilKitten

the reason I take it seriously is because there are far too many women who should know better who still believe that their pudenda is made of gold and should be worshipped by each and every male - just isn't going to happen and will wreck your love life.

I believe you misunderstood what I meant to say. That was the post I was responding to. I was referring to the women who, due to their belief that it's made of gold, end up treating it as such which eventually turns it into a commodity that they use in attempts to barter with or control the men that they're dating. It sets a horrible precedent where neither side ever lets their guard down to enjoy their time together and look to superficial solutions to real problems in the relationship.

That "club" was just term used at the school to refer to those who acted in such a manner - and there was a high percentage of them at that particular school due to the relative privilege and spoiling with which the average student grew up.

[EvilEvilKitten]

Yes, I did misunderstand you.

[funinthesun]

I also agree with your point about seeing the men when older. Thankfully I was exposed to men and women in those situations very frequently in my teens and early twenties due to my athletic career and it was sad. Now, when tutoring some undergrads about to graduate with 6 figure jobs, I hear how they can't wait to start being paid so they can get the car and all the girls. They insist that all of their problems will be solved and that they won't care that they're only wanted for their money; they'll just change girls when they get bored and it will never get old. I have yet to find an argument that they bother listening to.

[EvilEvilKitten]

Money can't buy you love. Meaning the real deal. Oh, they think they'll be okay with that but - sorry, but even all of the rampant sex in the world will NOT make up for the lack of someone who gives a damn about you.

The lack of that emotional bond saps all the joy out of life.

[ilovepussy]

im 14 and still a virgin

[Rouge]

Originally Posted by ilovepussy

im 14 and still a virgin

I'm going to quote my previous post on this (with a few additions).

[QUOTE]In all honesty, you shouldn't be upset...I would seriously hope that you're still a virgin at 13, otherwise someone is getting locked up for statutory rape and or child exploitation.....you're a kid. You want to have sex, but are no where near ready for the consequences. It's like a roller coaster; you have to be tall enough to fit in the restraints so you can have a safe, happy time.

Just imagine getting pregnant at 13 or 14. You wouldn't be able to deal with it, there would be major ripping because your body isn't ready to have a child yet (and therefore not ready for sex...the biological purpose of having which is for childbirth). Even with an abortion, there isn't the maturity behind it yet if you were to have one.

If you're a guy, imagine getting someone pregnant. You're definitely not in any place of maturity to be able to help your partner,or to help support a child, should one be born. There's not a decent level of responsibility yet; sex is an action, it can have consequences.

Now we reach the issue with sex at a young age (Evil will disagree). I'm of the belief that you need to test out future partners, yes, but only if you're old and mature enough to deal with love, hurt, disloyalty etc. No boy wants to get into a relationship at that age, so if you're looking for one by using sex, you'll be disappointed. Likewise, if you're a boy and having sex in your same age group, the girl will most likely want a relationship and get attached to you. Do you really want to deal with the emotions of a girl who isn't done maturing yet? NO! It'll be absolutely horrible.

My advice: Wait until you're 17/18 before getting into the world of sex. You'll still have all the time in the world to play, but you won't have to deal with school drama, you'll be much more mature and capable of taking care of the consequences of sex, and who knows, you could find your life partner (and be old enough to pursue a decent non-high schoolish relationship).

Patience is a virtue, the same can be very true with sex.

[EvilEvilKitten]

Horrible or not, Rouge, and 13, 14, or 26 - the first hesitant steps, the first errors, the first heartaches are BEST taken while the parental safety net remains beneath you. Are best taken, not must be taken, you will notice. It varies from family to family of course, but when beginning a new adventurre it is best too start from what is familiar and safe - home. Like some eagle relentlessly standing on the edge of the nest flapping its wings for weeks beforehand to strengthen them before finally taking its first flight.