Virgin Psychology

[EvilEvilKitten]

And it is taught not taut which means something entirely different.

Okay a 17 yr old German girl is not exactly a sheltered person since their culture permits far more sex in the media than we, Americans, do. Whether or not she herself has done anything, no one knows but her.

So I would say, wait and let her make the move on you. Make it her choice and her responsibility.

[constantlylearning]

Again, Ms INT has some super advice. Treat another as you would want them
to treat you......... It is a good thing to help and comfort another.

[Mr. Saint]

Well my flight leaves soon, so I probably will not be on here for a few weeks. Thank you all for your advice once again. I am going to take it slow and try to read her comfort level. If we do end up going all the way I will be the perfect gentleman. If it dose not happen of I don’t think she fells comfortable with it then it dose not happen, no big deal. Once again thanks for your advice.

[ducktales]

wait until she's 18, you don't want to put yourself in a tight situation(no pun intended ) even though the sex would be consensual.

[Mr. Saint]

I have got back to the States late last night so I am back on line. I had very little access to internet because I was in the countryside. I got on this sight once on my trip and made one post and lost connection. Anyways if you want to know how it all turned out here is the story.

I did nothing for what I felt was good reason. Her and her whole family are all very strict Christians. It was actually very confusing because in the first three days of my trip I saw her and her parents naked when changing to go swimming. Latter I found out that she had huge guilt issues surrounding sex. Sorry to anyone out there that is vary religious but it is one of my rules. I don’t deal with that kind of self guilt.

[TnL329]

If you didn't feel comfortable, or were confused, it is best that you did nothing.

[lnt1103]

Yeah I agree. No one's going to criticize you for NOT doing something that could have ended very badly. Kudos on using the BIG brain instead of the LITTLE one.

[EvilEvilKitten]

Guilt becuase she has the normal sex drive of a teenage woman and yet thinks it is something bad, shameful, dirty and yet at the same time precious and should be saved for her husband.

GREAT! Another damaged woman out in the world. Thanks, Mom & Dad.

You did precisely the right thing, Mr. Saint.

[Mr. Saint]

EEK you are right, it truly is a shame. But it gets even worse; I get the sense that she has at least some homosexual thoughts if she is not completely gay. When we did fool around a bit, nothing more then kissing and a hand on the small of her back, she did not seem that in to it. But when a cute girl walked by, she looked longer then I did. She swears she has never had a thought like that and that it is wrong. If at some point she dose realize she is attracted to other women it will be very bad.

[EvilEvilKitten]

I don't know that that would be very bad for her.

There is an intellectual "I wonder" response and then there's the visceral "OMG!" physical response. It is that visceral response that you want to generate and receive from your partner.

If it is NOT there, then it is game over. Just move on.