Birth Control Failure Rates

[sera300]

Originally Posted by jakeg08

Can someone (Brandye or anyone) explain what exactly a spermicide (such as a vaginal lube type) does and what's an effective brand to get? Obviously using a condom + a spermicide would greatly reduce the risk of pregnancy...also, whats the deal with the "morning after" pill?...how effective is it?....thanks

A spermicide kills the sperm. KY makes a brand with a spermicide in it but look for the box marked properly as a Spermicide. There are also VCF's (vaginal contraceptive films) and suppositories. Look around the store when you are there look for the jelly's with an applicator. The Brand? Does not matter much. Gynol II Extra Strength (Ortho Options) makes a decent one & it's available in most drug stores. Condoms and Spermicides are good methods and easy to obtain.

The MAP or Plan "B" is only emergency contraception. It means if you did not have protected sex, the condom broke, or some other mishap occurred then you use this as an emergency attempt to stop pregnancy. It halts ovulation and prevents the implant of a fertilized egg to attach to the wall. Look up the website for Plan B...it tells you a great deal of info. But it's not Birth Control.

Here is a link:
http://www.fwhc.org/birth-control/spermicide.htm

[jakeg08]

also, is it better to pull out of the girls vagina before you cum? i would think it would...but yeah...just wondering

[Mr. Hide]

I have a comment regarding withdrawal as well. There is no way in hell that IF DONE PROPERLY 40% of women become pregnant when that is the only form of contraception used. Certainly, a large problem with the method is that men often don't pull out in time - but that's not practicing it properly. Some cite precum as a source of pregnancy, though I've read numerous studies that found that there are no sperm in "precum" and I believe it even comes from the prostate. I've also read that sperm that IS occasionally found in this fluid is the risidual sperm from an earlier ejaculation and can be killed through urination. My girlfriend and I use a withdrawal along with birth control in case of any "slip-ups" although there hasn't been one yet.

[sera300]

Originally Posted by Mr. Hide

I have a comment regarding withdrawal as well. There is no way in hell that IF DONE PROPERLY 40% of women become pregnant when that is the only form of contraception used. Certainly, a large problem with the method is that men often don't pull out in time - but that's not practicing it properly. Some cite precum as a source of pregnancy, though I've read numerous studies that found that there are no sperm in "precum" and I believe it even comes from the prostate. I've also read that sperm that IS occasionally found in this fluid is the risidual sperm from an earlier ejaculation and can be killed through urination. My girlfriend and I use a withdrawal along with birth control in case of any "slip-ups" although there hasn't been one yet.

Let me be the first to congratulate you and your g/f on your upcoming pregnancy is you decide to use withdrawal alone!!!! Apparently YOU have not read the studies NOR done the empirical research on sperm presence. Take a microscope and look in your urine post ejaculation about 4 hours later--post void. Have you ever thought either you or your g/f are infertile? Or just damned lucky? Go tell Brandye, she is full of **** with what she is saying; seen with her own eyes, as well as the same for me with what I see. Both in patients and medical research. Don't interpret research you are not familiar with, you are doing yourselves a great disservice.

Source: Zuckerman Z, Weiss DB, Orvieto R, Does preejaculatory penile secretion originating from Cowper's gland contain sperm? Journal of Assisted Reproduction & Genetics 2003; 20 (40): 157-159.
The conclusion was YES in fact preejaculatory fluid contains spermazoa and advocates against the use coitus interruptius as a method of birth control.

[Brandye]

Mr Hide,

Sperm is always present in the male genito-urinary tract. Whether it is generated with the "pre-cum" or is just lingering is immaterial. Most urine samples of men show the presence of sperm. During sexual arousal, the number of sperm present increases dramatically. They aare even swimming out on their own not awaiting the big event.

Sperm is generated in the testes and supplied to the prostate on demand - or when storage space is used up - where it mixes with the semen awaiting ejaculation. When you wait too long, it simply discharges itself as in nocturnal emission.

You are correct that the male often does not withdraw in time. That is reality. You also point out that you and your g/f use of contraceptives. Nothing wrong with that but advocating withdrawal as a sole means of contraception is doing a disservice to all those young men who are too anxious to get in there bare.

[trobson666]

My best friend and his girlfriend used withdrawl on its own for a while, and he was convinced that it worked extremely well! Until he thought she was up the duff, and so onto the pill they went. I'm definitely no expert, but jesus, be careful! In an ideal world, those not wanting pregnancy would be using condoms, spermicide, the pill AND withdrawal, but that just doesn't happen...

[sera300]

The form of contraception used and how much (or lack of) all depends on the risk couples wish to assume.

[trobson666]

I have a question: why do 10% of condom users having regular sex for a year get pregnant? Is this statistic entirely reliant on it bursting or, what?

[sera300]

Originally Posted by trobson666

I have a question: why do 10% of condom users having regular sex for a year get pregnant? Is this statistic entirely reliant on it bursting or, what?

Generally the reason is leakage from around the opening of the condom.

[Brandye]

Very few condoms break outright or leak. Too often we like to tarry awhile before withdrawing. That is when most of the damage is done. They have been know to shred and it is a bit of a shock to watch your partner witdraw, from you, with shreds of condom hanging from him. That is why we recommend vaginal spermicide with condoms.