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Old 09-28-2007, 06:13 AM
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A badge of honor?

So you're happy that she can say "No." Okay, part of her ability to say that might be a low sex drive, or a belief that sex is dirty, or bad, or is only for having children not for pleasure. Then she has her kids and cuts him off, thinking "Thank goodness I don't have to put up wth THAT any more!" Well, why not? A once a month mercy "I'll just lay here." bit of sex is enough for any man isn't it? Perhaps she can periodically "reward" him for "good behavior" right? "Honey, if you fix the roof, I'll give you...." I have seen the results of just such 'all hail virginity" edcation far too many times to have illusions about it.Once she has been 'programmed' to think like that - HE'S doomed.

I'm sure he'll thank you later.

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ok, "badge of honr" might be a bit extreme...i get a bit wierd when its really late at night. but i still think you should not be ashamed about it. and i cant say that i am proud to tell a girl no, or have a girl tell me no... i have never been in a situation where the subject of sex even had a possibility of coming up
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A badge of honor?

So you're happy that she can say "No." Okay, part of her ability to say that might be a low sex drive, or a belief that sex is dirty, or bad, or is only for having children not for pleasure. Then she has her kids and cuts him off, thinking "Thank goodness I don't have to put up wth THAT any more!" Well, why not? A once a month mercy "I'll just lay here." bit of sex is enough for any man isn't it? Perhaps she can periodically "reward" him for "good behavior" right? "Honey, if you fix the roof, I'll give you...." I have seen the results of just such 'all hail virginity" edcation far too many times to have illusions about it.Once she has been 'programmed' to think like that - HE'S doomed.
EEK - Wish I had said it first. You are absolutely right on. I also have known many men who at first thought they were getting something special by marrying a virgin, and then suffer for it the rest of their lives. There is a big surprise package attached to the original "gift."
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Thinking of sex as being "precious" causes many problems. Sex is great, fun and brings people together - all good things. But when you begin making it out to be "more" than that, then you run into problems - such as murdering over infidelity. Then you get jealousy, possessiveness, mistrust - the list goes on. All very unattractive and destructive emotions that eventually destroy people.

You cannot control any one else's behavior but you can control your reactions to that behavior.

Some men simply choose to not deal with the issues in their marriage re: sex and so they go elsewhere. To most "playful" women, married men are the perfect playtoys because they cannot "fall in love" and they "have to go home" - this way they do not have to "buy the pig just to have a little sausage". They are not interested in keeping him - they just want to borrow him for a while. Single men might want a relationship and she just may not want that at this time. Divorced men might have too much baggage. Thus married men become more attractive - they fit her agenda.

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Thinking of sex as being "precious" causes many problems. Sex is great, fun and brings people together - all good things. But when you begin making it out to be "more" than that, then you run into problems - such as murdering over infidelity. Then you get jealousy, possessiveness, mistrust - the list goes on. All very unattractive and destructive emotions that eventually destroy people.

You cannot control any one else's behavior but you can control your reactions to that behavior.

Some men simply choose to not deal with the issues in their marriage re: sex and so they go elsewhere. To most "playful" women, married men are the perfect playtoys because they cannot "fall in love" and they "have to go home" - this way they do not have to "buy the pig just to have a little sausage". They are not interested in keeping him - they just want to borrow him for a while. Single men might want a relationship and she just may not want that at this time. Divorced men might have too much baggage. Thus married men become more attractive - they fit her agenda.
So true evil! There is part of the game of "catch" & lack of attachment. Been there too many times inadvertently!
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Wow..a good topic.. i am 20 going to 21..still steady with my gf of 2years and a half..still a virgin of course..

I don't think of it as a "badge of honor". I just think that it is something special and should be done when both parties are ready whether emotionally, mentally or physically..whether after marriage or not..If possible it would be after marriage for me..

Some might think otherwise..especially most of you in the western countries..and it might sound stupid but this is my opinion on it..Most asian countries used to have this kind of thinking from where i come from..but nowadays i guess it's a total different thing already..oh well..
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Wow..a good topic.. i am 20 going to 21..still steady with my gf of 2years and a half..still a virgin of course..

I don't think of it as a "badge of honor". I just think that it is something special and should be done when both parties are ready whether emotionally, mentally or physically..whether after marriage or not..If possible it would be after marriage for me..

Some might think otherwise..especially most of you in the western countries..and it might sound stupid but this is my opinion on it..Most asian countries used to have this kind of thinking from where i come from..but nowadays i guess it's a total different thing already..oh well..
You should read yesterdays thread from the man who hated having sex w/his wife. And why! I do believe you have to know you are sexually compatible before you marry anyone! I hate to see one spouse feeling hurt and resentful b/c of the sexual rejection.

Here it is:
http://www.sexinfo101.com/forum/marr...ex_w_wife.html

This is a good enough reason not to wait until marriage!
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Sounds like buying a Porsche BEFORE you have learned how to drive.
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Sounds like buying a Porsche BEFORE you have learned how to drive.
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