Adults still being virgins over the age of 20???

[mike99]

Originally Posted by Brandye

I think you are right, BadCat. Get suggestions and explain why they will not work.

It's not like I haven't approached females before, they've just always said no. And not always in the nicest tone either.

Mike,

Given that response, I suggest you sit at home and dither about the situation. Or, walk into a dance studio some evening and see what is going on. Women and men (more of the former) are actually dancing and, even, touching one another. Some may, god forbid, be flirting!

Or join a basketball league and spend your evenings with sweaty men in a smelly gym.

Yea....i'm no master of flirting.


And whats wrong with a basketball league?

It's something i know how to do....even tho i'm bad at it.

[Brandye]

Mike,

You and Franklin should establish a pm relationship and dump all your crap on one another, thereby relieving the rest of us from dealing with it. He, too, is "bad at it," no matter what it is.

[RATED-RKOFRANKLIN]

Originally Posted by EvilEvilKitten

Another "Franklin" here!!

Doesn't have a clue and could not care less.

I do care about my problem! I have been making changes to myself.

[EvilEvilKitten]

Whine, whine, whine - ever the hallmark of the unsuccessful male.

"Oh, she hurt my little feelings!"

Jeez! Like we haven't all been turned down at least once.

GROW A SET!

[Humble]

I think the hostility to mike99 and Franklin is unnecessary.

mike99: Why have the women you have approached said no in unpleasant ways? I am sure you actually know what your problem is. Perhaps you lack social skills by virtue of simply being a recluse and have never had a chance to develop them or maybe you are fat and women find you unattractive or maybe it is something else entirely. I don't know the answer, but you probably do at the very least suspect what the reason is behind the rejections. When you logically isolate the matter, you can go about making an effort to change it - assuming that changing it is worth the effort for you to get a woman.

[EvilEvilKitten]

Humble if you cannot see why perhaps you have not yet reviewed the entire history of the discourse with both of them.

[RATED-RKOFRANKLIN]

Originally Posted by EvilEvilKitten

Whine, whine, whine - ever the hallmark of the unsuccessful male.

"Oh, she hurt my little feelings!"

Jeez! Like we haven't all been turned down at least once.

GROW A SET!

It is one thing to be turn down by a few women, but it is another to get turn down by a lot of woman. My feelings are not hurt. I have moved on from my past rejections. Not everything a woman says about me will nice. I have heard of it all. It's embarrassing, but not life ending. Are my feelings hurt? No because I know I just need to move on to the next one. I am angry? No because I can not force someone to be with me. It is not my decision, it is her decision. I must accept and respect her decision. There are plenty of good woman in this world. I just have to continue to look. I just have to continue to try to improve myself. I don't need to say to myself that I am too ugly. What I need to say to myself is "hey Franklin be a man and talk to the girl". What do I have lose? My ego might get punched hard, but I can take it.

[mike99]

Originally Posted by Humble

mike99: Why have the women you have approached said no in unpleasant ways? I am sure you actually know what your problem is. Perhaps you lack social skills by virtue of simply being a recluse and have never had a chance to develop them or maybe you are fat and women find you unattractive or maybe it is something else entirely. I don't know the answer, but you probably do at the very least suspect what the reason is behind the rejections. When you logically isolate the matter, you can go about making an effort to change it - assuming that changing it is worth the effort for you to get a woman.

Well I am fat. But I don't think that will change my face, which is rather bad looking.

I don't speak very well at all and don't say much around people I don't know.

I don't have much to say when I talk to a female unless i'm asking directions for something.

I wouldn't know what to say.

[RATED-RKOFRANKLIN]

Originally Posted by mike99

Well I am fat. But I don't think that will change my face, which is rather bad looking.

I don't speak very well at all and don't say much around people I don't know.

I don't have much to say when I talk to a female unless i'm asking directions for something.

I wouldn't know what to say.

How old are you? If you are going to school talk to a girl in class ask her about what is going on in class. Tell her your name, and ask for her name. From there you can start conversations. This is one of my simple ways of making a friendship with a new girl.

Let's say your friend "Mike"(I am making up) has a few friends with him, and a few are girls. Walk up to one and say hi. Ask her how she is doing. You don't have to talk much. Just listen to what she has to say. Ask her questions that are related to what she told you, but don't go too personal too early. This is one of my simple ways to making a friendship with a new girl.

She does not have to be the best looking girl to talk to. I have female friends who are very attraction, average, and below average. I did not care if a girl is hot or not. I will still make a friendship with her. It is good to form friendships with both sexes.

[mike99]

Originally Posted by RATED-RKOFRANKLIN

How old are you? If you are going to school talk to a girl in class ask her about what is going on in class. Tell her your name, and ask for her name. From there you can start conversations. This is one of my simple ways of making a friendship with a new girl.

I'm 26 and not in school.

Let's say your friend "Mike"(I am making up) has a few friends with him, and a few are girls. Walk up to one and say hi. Ask her how she is doing. You don't have to talk much. Just listen to what she has to say. Ask her questions that are related to what she told you, but don't go too personal too early. This is one of my simple ways to making a friendship with a new girl.

I don't really have any male friends. So hanging out with the guys is out of the question.