Incest

[lnt1103]

Originally Posted by boneman8

My sister and I read the points some of you have made, but have decided that our sexual relationship is our choice and we will live with the consequences. We care and love each other very much and have fantastic sex. It would be nice if we could get together more than once or twice a week though. Whoever brought up about the "wife" fulfilling the husbands need, well in my case she doesn't. My sister fulfills my needs of anal, facials and golden showers along with oral and vaginal sex. Those are somethings my wife won't do. Also, my wife won't videotape ourselves having sex, but my sister loves it. We get to watch ourselves and masturbate when we can't get together. Like I said this is the greatest sex I ever had, so just because you may not agree with it, it doesn't mean its wrong.

Originally Posted by boneman8

Actually, I love my wife very much! I'm not trying to destroy anything. We have an excellent sex life also. I am an extremely horny guy and have sex daily. There are certain "needs" I have and my sister is willing to fulfill them. My sister also has needs am I am more than willing to help her.

Ok these two posts are mutually contradictory IMHO. Your wife refuses to do certain things you 'need', so you go elsewhere for it, but yet you claim to have an 'excellent sex life'.

So which is correct? I agree with Sera, just an attempt at attention.

[smallestoftheclan]

Originally Posted by Mr. Saint

“The only unnatural sex act is that which cannot be preformed” – Dr. Alfred Kinsey. As long as what you do is fully consensual I have no problem with you having sex with your sister. That being said I would never ever have sexual relations with a family member. But if you are lying to your wife then there is a problem there. I have no problem with open relationships but you need to tell your partner that you are having sex with other people. You are both lying and putting your partner in danger.

From the words of a 16 year old, or did I miss your birthday and so from the words of a 17 year old.........

[Mr. Saint]

I think I am just going to put my age as my signature and save you the trouble of posting it after every one of my posts, Small. But I just have to ask you, are my opinions of incest dependent on my age. If not, why is my age relevant? Actually this is a moot question; you will never accept my opinion as valid.

[Jonathan_Philips]

Mr. Saint has a point Smallest.

As I promised I would, I have sat back and observed for a few weeks now and my conclusion is this: yes it is highly unusual to find a sixteen/seventeen year old who talks the way that Mr. Saint does, but beyond that, he comes across to me as being nothing less than an extremely intelligent, respectful young man and I am sad to say it, but you are beginning to look like something of a cyber-bully. Time to drop it I think.

[smallestoftheclan]

Age has alot to do with it. What I knew at 16 or 17 is so not what I know now at 47. To think that age has nothing to do with it shows some immaturity in my opinion. And Saint I see your viewpoint, for a 16 year old guy. I'm a female so there is the male vs female viewpoint as well.

And Jon, it took several of us weeks to convince this guy not to date a 14 year old. We women tried to get him to realize what she may of been thinking because we were once 14 year old girls. How is it being a cyber-bully by pointing out a posters age? He has posted he thinks everyone hates him, when others have posted opinions that are different from his. It's not hate, it's just a different opinion.

If I was on a bridge and a 16 year old told me to jump, or not to jump, and a 47 year old told me not to, or to jump, are you going to be surprised if I listened to the 47 year old and not the 16 year old? My parents didn't pour me or my brothers a glass of alcohol before we were of legal drinking age. And well my brothers have both had DUI's, my younger one committed suicide after his 6th to avoid jail. My parents didn't allow my brothers at 16 to have a 19 year old women spend the night and have sex with them under their roof.

I find it odd that a 16 year old boy would have a response other than "gross" when asked a question about insest. Not a normal subject or topic for discussion. Whereas people with a few more years under their belts may, with multiple marriage families and adults having sex with little kids in the news, these opinions are formed. So not a bully, in person or over the computer.

[Jonathan_Philips]

I would still be interested to read a response to Mr. Saint from you Smallestoftheclan that was not patronizing at the very least. Maturity doesn't always have to do with the number of years you have spent on this planet.

I caught a little of that thread regarding Mr. Saint and the fourteen-year-old and again, as far as I can tell he conducted himself extremely maturely.

The fact that you would expect a seventeen-year-old to say 'gross' when confronted with issues regarding incest shows your own preconceptions, which, right or wrong, are more narrow-minded than our young friend Mr. Saint's.

I mean you know harm, but I see you use his age as a weapon against him time-after-time and I can't help, but feel as though enough is perhaps enough.

[Mr. Saint]

I have had people tell me that I have a twisted sense of morality; I have also had people tell me that it is far more logical then any indoctrination that they have heard. I fell the morality must be jugged based on how your actions effect others. For example, I fell that drug use in ones home is perfectly fine but sending your kid to a sexually repressive bible camp is fundamentally wrong (happened to a friend). I condemn most religions of being immoral when most people would say they are a “moral compass”. This is where I get my views on incest. I would never personally engage in incest, but if two consenting people choose to engage and don’t bread, then I have no problem with them doing what ever they want. They have a natural right to do whatever brings them happiness as long as it does not directly harm another person.

[smallestoftheclan]

Nope not just the years. I've been to 48 of the 50 states, need to go to Idaho and Alaska. Been to 10 of the 13 Canadian Provinces/Territories, need to go to Northwest Territories, Nunavut and the Yukon. I have an associates degree from a community college, a bachelors degree from one university and my masters from a different university. I've had open heart surgery, brain surgery and a total hysterectomy, I have more doctors than one person should ever be allowed to have. I wanted to be an Olympic downhill skiier, my dad had to remind me, and tell the US olympic scouts and the Canadian scouts that I was not allowed to compete, I was born with the heart issue.
I have worked in customer service in the telecommunications industry, the insurance industry and the weight loss industry to name three. I was born in the US to a dad born in Canada, where the majority of my family still resides, and a mom who was born in Scotland yet was raised in Canada from the age of three.
I am 47, at 8 my mom was given 6 months to live. She lived to see me turn 25. My dad passed away before my 27th birthday so I have supported myself without parents to run to or call for advice for longer this child, Saint, has been alive. If you think he is by any way more mature than me call me out.......I pay my bills, I live in my home, I own my belongings and I have no debt other than my mortgage to worry about.....

[smallestoftheclan]

And Jon there were multiple threads about this girl, which he started. Going to class for a girl, another age question, need help understanding a girl and she is to young. If he finds out in June that she is 14 why does he even still have a question in September? Now that's mature.

[lnt1103]

Easy folks. Lets just assume no one means any harm and move on ok? No need to get upset by someone God only knows how far away from us who is talking to us through a computer screen.