I recall reading somewhere that masturbation generally feels better than actual intercourse, since the person masturbating can control the precise pacing, pressure, style of touch and other variables that affect the pleasure of the given person. Obviously, these things are much more difficult to control in a pair, plus one also focuses on pleasuring the other partner and not just oneself. It makes sense I think, but is it actually the case that masturbation is better than actual intercourse?
Sun, 12/21/2008 - 16:21
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Masturbation better than sex?
Generally not.
I have discussed this from a different approach several times. The reason why a person's climax is more intense when in the presence of a partner is because of all the pheromones flying between you as well as just "chemistry" in general. These usually make us more aroused with much greater sexual tension, anticipation, and expectations.
When we make out with a partner, our arousal path has two branches like the letter "Y", only with one branch longer than the other. Beginning at the bottom, as we work our way up the shorter branch, our activities will take us directly to the brink and point of no control. Our level of arousal and method of stimulation are just what we have become accustomed to in order to reach and then trigger an orgasm.
When our partner takes us up along the longer branch using her hand(s) and mouth, we become much more aroused, our penis will sometimes feel like it has grown to its fullest and is now about to burst. This rarely if ever happens when home alone. Our level of arousal, excitement, and, sexual tension, are all much more intense.
This is the good part, the bad part is that all this stimulation as fantastic as it makes us feel is not what is required to trigger an orgasm. DARN! if only it would happen. That it hardly ever does, what needs to happen is for there to be a pause in the proceedings just long enough for us to back down our arousal curve in order to switch branches.
You are correct, our built in feedback lets us modulate our movements in order to gain the desired results. This is missing when we turn the reins over to our partner. A substitute is required and can be found in the form of verbal and non-verbal communication. Let each other know how we are responding to their caresses and for what we need now/next.
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Back in the mid-20th century, some of the participants, especially women, in the Kinsey studies and Master & Johnson's work di report an ability to develop stronger orgasms through masturbation than with a partner.
If stronger orgasm is your measure, I guess, then, self-satisfaction could be better. Generally, there is so much more to female satisfaction than the orgasm. Often, very good sex does not even lead to orgasm - for women. Satisfying, nonetheless.
No, masturbation is NOT as much fun as sex with others.
[QUOTE=dancingdoc2;231010]Generally not.
I have discussed this from a different approach several times. The reason why a person's climax is more intense when in the presence of a partner is because of all the pheromones flying between you as well as just "chemistry" in general. These usually make us more aroused with much greater sexual tension, anticipation, and expectations.
When we make out with a partner, our arousal path has two branches like the letter "Y", only with one branch longer than the other. Beginning at the bottom, as we work our way up the shorter branch, our activities will take us directly to the brink and point of no control. Our level of arousal and method of stimulation are just what we have become accustomed to in order to reach and then trigger an orgasm.
When our partner takes us up along the longer branch using her hand(s) and mouth, we become much more aroused, our penis will sometimes feel like it has grown to its fullest and is now about to burst. This rarely if ever happens when home alone. Our level of arousal, excitement, and, sexual tension, are all much more intense.
This is the good part, the bad part is that all this stimulation as fantastic as it makes us feel is not what is required to trigger an orgasm. DARN! if only it would happen. That it hardly ever does, what needs to happen is for there to be a pause in the proceedings just long enough for us to back down our arousal curve in order to switch branches.
You are correct, our built in feedback lets us modulate our movements in order to gain the desired results. This is missing when we turn the reins over to our partner. A substitute is required and can be found in the form of verbal and non-verbal communication. Let each other know how we are responding to their caresses and for what we need now/next.
Please scroll down to Chapter Four:
MORE: From bungling student to graduating Lover Cum Laude[/QUOTE]
Very interesting - so the 'theory' might be true physically, but there are also chemical factors at play which more than compensate for it - I didn't realize that chemicals/pheromones play a role in humans too.
[QUOTE=Brandye;231012]Back in the mid-20th century, some of the participants, especially women, in the Kinsey studies and Master & Johnson's work di report an ability to develop stronger orgasms through masturbation than with a partner.
If stronger orgasm is your measure, I guess, then, self-satisfaction could be better. Generally, there is so much more to female satisfaction than the orgasm. Often, very good sex does not even lead to orgasm - for women. Satisfying, nonetheless.[/QUOTE]
Good point - there are emotional and psychological factors that are particularly important to female satisfaction, but it is interesting that purely physically-speaking the Kinsey studies seem to hint that the theory of masturbation being 'better' than sex might have something to it.
Theirs a reason why I spend more time in other peoples beds then mine. I guess this means I do not have more fun by myself..
In my experience, it's about 50-50. Sometimes better, sometimes worse. I'm a poor example though...
sex with someone, even if over the phone is better then going solo if you ask me. Doc is right. you have a lot more imput with another person then you do with yourself. As a man, I will say, I have cum the hardest and been the happest after sex with a women then just laying in bed at night and doing the work myself........
thats my $.02!
it depends on how you feel, sometimes you want to do it by yourself and other times you would rather someone does it for you
its good when no one is around to do it, depends how you roll with your sexuality and how you see the other gender
for me it feels better with having a chick around to do things to and me with her
Doesn't compare at all. My orgasms with a partner are much more intense, mainly because I can't control it. Masturbation is just BLAH.. nothing that great just enough to get the release.
Humble, have you had sex?
yeah i have done it, it will always feel better if someone does it for you, if you dont have anyone then it will feel good by yourself
[QUOTE=Humble;231002]I recall reading somewhere that masturbation generally feels better than actual intercourse, since the person masturbating can control the precise pacing, pressure, style of touch and other variables that affect the pleasure of the given person. Obviously, these things are much more difficult to control in a pair, plus one also focuses on pleasuring the other partner and not just oneself. It makes sense I think, but is it actually the case that masturbation is better than actual intercourse?[/QUOTE]
For me masturbation is only about having a quick release. Where if I think about sex or wanting sex all day I can knock a quick one out for the sake of feeling releived a little... when my girlfriend is wanking me I take AGES to cum, because when someone else is holding your dick, it's not as strong a feeling as holding your own...and in fact sometimes I have felt a little detached from my dick when someone else is holding it...
Intercourse is so much better. To see and feel your girlfriend getting pleasure from the way you move, touch and physically interact is more of a turn on. Plus when you orgasm it is 50 times more stronger when you are fucking, you feel it more through your whole body where I am literally gasping for breath.
I dont agree that wanking is better than sex...
I wouldn't know
[QUOTE=Gorgeous Mistake;231315]
Humble, have you had sex?[/QUOTE]
No I haven't.
No, he hasn't had sex.
That explains that.
[QUOTE=EvilEvilKitten;231351]No, he hasn't had sex.
That explains that.[/QUOTE]
LOL... well I'll explain a little more for him...
When you do have your first sexual experience, masturbation will still feel better than sex for a little bit because it's kinda all you know to a point. First time sex can be a little clumsy, not what you expected, too much effort, weird... you will experience so much from it... but you then will learn to enjoy someone else's hand on your penis, someone else pleasing you...it's also learning to slow down a little.
When my first girlfriend was masturbating me, I wanted her to go like the clappers because you don't really feel anything unless she's working around the head of your penis or the tip, same for oral.
Thanks for the additional explanations. :)
So, I get a thanks on a personal message and a downgrade for bad information. That is interesting.
[QUOTE=Brandye;236084]So, I get a thanks on a personal message and a downgrade for bad information. That is interesting.[/QUOTE]
I seem to be getting dinged on my rep for no apparent reason. I tried to boost you back up but I gave you a bump recently and it won't let me give you more. ;)
[QUOTE=Brandye;236084]So, I get a thanks on a personal message and a downgrade for bad information. That is interesting.[/QUOTE]
Brandye the Rep thing is a bit of a farce anyway (sometimes)
Would be great if it came up with the name of who has done it and
a good reason, maybe it would stop the random ones
I have 4 bad ones... 3 of which are just jumbled letters
and the other is this one.... 03-28-2009 03:08 PM What a know it all .....
lol didnt realise I had such a fan club of Haters :D lol
There is nothing as good as sex. You're welcome.
as for Rep points - yeah, they hate me too.
lol yeah EEK I have had a taste of your "fan club":D...... poor young lads lol
LOL they have no idea what they're missing, either.
For starters masturbation is sex! It is sex with oneself. Do you think Lean Cuisine is better than food? Now the rest of my answer is going to be just like everyone else's: based on personal experience and preference. Sex with another person is better than masturbation. The excitement of interacting with another, knowing that she or he is willing to share the pleasures of her or his body with one produces a psychological high that cannot be attained from mere masturbation. I am pretty good at giving myself pleasure with my hands, I am ambidextrous so I might even better at it than most, but neither of my hands provides the physical sensation of a warm,moist vagina or mouth or the smooth beauty of two breasts pushed together around my penis or any of the softer sexy body parts that I enjoy on women.
Masturbation satisfies the basic need, but it will never be as good as sex with another. On the other hand ( no pun ), no one will ever give me as good a hand job as I can give myself.
Heh, I didn't even know it was possible to 'give' negative reputation.
[QUOTE=dlb;236119]For starters masturbation is sex! It is sex with oneself.[/QUOTE]
OK, but I did specify what I mean more clearly in the actual post.
[QUOTE=Humble;236166]OK, but I did specify what I mean more clearly in the actual post.[/QUOTE]
I hope you read past the first sentence of my post.
[QUOTE=nuttychick;236091]Brandye the Rep thing is a bit of a farce anyway (sometimes)
Would be great if it came up with the name of who has done it and
a good reason, maybe it would stop the random ones
I have 4 bad ones... 3 of which are just jumbled letters
and the other is this one.... 03-28-2009 03:08 PM What a know it all .....
lol didnt realise I had such a fan club of Haters :D lol[/QUOTE]
Oh yes the negative rep qualified with jumbled letters. I wonder about that. I got one of the jumbled letter things for a post on this thread http://www.sexinfo101.com/forum/general-discussion/25404-how-big-too-big...
And apparently I got lots of negatives for expressing my opinion on "facials" and how men ( and the women I have been with ) feel about them because in spite of admiration from one forum member who I dearly miss I have a positively (negatively?) black rectangle next to that subject!
[QUOTE=dlb;236176]I hope you read past the first sentence of my post.[/QUOTE]
I did and I do appreciate the feedback - I just wanted to make clear that I am not under some kind of definitional misconception about masturbation and such.
[QUOTE=dlb;236182]Oh yes the negative rep qualified with jumbled letters. I wonder about that. I got one of the jumbled letter things for a post on this thread http://www.sexinfo101.com/forum/general-discussion/25404-how-big-too-big...
And apparently I got lots of negatives for expressing my opinion on "facials" and how men ( and the women I have been with ) feel about them because in spite of admiration from one forum member who I dearly miss I have a positively (negatively?) black rectangle next to that subject![/QUOTE]
Heh, speaking of negative rep, all the talk about it here has I just inspired me to check my profile and I found out that I got some negative rep for thanking somebody who answered my question - lol! And no it wasn't from the person who answered the question nor from anybody else who participated on the thread.
The rep thing is getting ridiculous. Receiving a negative hit with gibberish typed in as a reason is just stupid. If I offend you, fine, go ahead and ding me but leave a reason so I understand why. It seems that there are a few people who go around hurting peoples rep for fun. It really defeats the purpose of it.
They tell me to relax. Then they take away points. Seems silly to me.