Paying it forward

[weirdloadsbureau]

I have two doves in the kitchen doing soap box synchronized sketching, does anyone know how to preheat a 1962 Ford Mustang? The crystal is cloudy and Willy Nelson doesn't watch movies anymore.

Thanks

[EvilEvilKitten]

Okay so how would you feel if she asked, hoped, dreamed, bartered, dared you into doing something for her that you absolutely HATED?

Perhaps she does and you don't know it. She's not going to tell you either. She's learned a long time ago that all she does for you is not enough. You still want this one thing more. So okay she can live with that - she has been. But don't ask her to tell you anything, you've already told her all she needs to know about how any messages she gives you will be received.

Have you tried doing The Program and Body Worship yet?

[weirdloadsbureau]

Wow! I have to say, I honestly don't know what set you off. Did I say something wrong?

[EvilEvilKitten]

No, you're not some horrible guy. But even the nicest person has a flaw.

Here you are trying to 'future barter' your wife's massages to get fellatio.
The strategy is to put her under obligation so you can get what you have always cherished and desired.

Yes, it sounds harsh but seriously think about how your planned actions belie what you say about your relationship.

[loverofcurves]

Hi!
I was reading your posts. Please read the series i just posted about my wife and my self-a year in the program the evolutuion of a marriage. I did not speciffically state it but I did hve the same complaint among others. You have to stop saying I want and come to her with "what do you REALLY want?"
and LISTEN! Please read my article (yes all three parts) and think it over. if you like you cam PM me. I am a married guy of over 10 years and the lesson i have learned it takes two you have to work with her and learn to let go so she can lead. You'll find you'll get more of what you want without having to pressure for it. It will come from her on it's own. TRUST ME I am getting everything now in bed that I could ever want ansd never have to ask!
Sincerely.
Karl,Lover of Curves

[weirdloadsbureau]

Please read A Year in the Merde by Stephen Clarke. For those of you who don't know, merde is French for shit.

[loverofcurves]

OK I read what you wrote and did it slowly Let me clear up something when I said to you nit to say "I want" I meant in a general sense not to operate soley on a basis of your needs. I apologize for not making that clear. I think the general intnet of your plan is good. I am trying to point out a much better way to make things work out for both of you in such a way that you will both be happy and with each other . I don't think my letter was that down on you. I was tring to offer constructive criticism. I'm glad you plan to read my article i know you will find it very help ful and you will find some of my expereince similiar to yours. both your wife and you do really need to talk openly about your sex life. I am taking a wild guess here but I am getting a sense that she feels that what goes on the bedroom with you is on a scoresheet ie so much for her so much for you. That if true note (I said IF) then that has to change and develop into a more cooperative encviroment.
I have learned by letting go of control and not trying orchestrate things (I am not saying that you are but i used to and I know other guys do to) that we have a far better sex life with a far more uninhibited wife. Please read my articel and get back to me OH please read the sticky on The Program and body worship. The latter you can incorporate with those massages!
Karl Lover of Curves

[weirdloadsbureau]

I'm sorry to hear that you read slow.

[mikkiji]

I'm an older guy who was married for nearly 34 years before my wife died. We'd been friends for over 40 years, since we were kids. She had a very strong gag reflex and although she could give brief oral sex, it could never be to orgasm, and was always just a small and infrequent part of our foreplay. I could do oral on her for quite a long period of time (and loved to), and she would cum many times that way, however. I had a brief affair about 20 years into my marriage, and the woman was a blow-job expert. That was the only time in my life I was fellated to climax, and that only happened twice. I had a lover after my wife died who, although enthusiastic regarding oral sex, was really not very good at it. I am remarried now, and realize that a woman who will suck you to climax must be rare indeed. My new wife will suck me for quite a while, but I think neither of us wants it to end like that. It's all about the sensations, the tease and the intimacy, not the orgasm. I don't even want that, but if and when she does perform oral sex on me (maybe 3 or 4 times a month, and we usually have sex at least 5 times a week, if not more), it always makes my eventual climax more intense and wonderful all around. I will go down on her at least 3 times a week--but neither of us ever asks, although I will on occasion "point her in that direction", as it were, and she'll always oblige. But just for foreplay.

I believe your obsession with being sucked to climax is utterly unrealistic and, yes, maybe you never ask, but you are obviously thinking about it a LOT. That's called an obsession. Forget it and move on, or it will begin to erode the fabric of trust and commitment which glues your marriage together.
Michael

[weirdloadsbureau]

Lordy Lordy I will never sin again!