The Program

[EvilEvilKitten]

What specifically aren't you sure about?

[dylan79]

I'm confused about how to find the G-Spot and P-Spot with my penis. How do I direct it to hit certain spots, do I do it using different angles like putting a pillow under her bum?

[EvilEvilKitten]

First of all YOU have the P-Spot, not her. You're more than confused.
Also how to find the G-Spot with your penis has already been extensively covered elsewhere in the various threads - do NOT ask me to do your reasearch and experimentation for you - you're a big boy now and should be able to hunt it down.

[PsychoSexual Madman]

I agree with AJ, this is too structured. I've been visiting the forums here for quite a while, and I've noticed that you keep bringing up this program every time someone has a problem in the sack. I hope you aren't suggesting that this is the dictionary definition of a satisfying sexual experience. IMHO, lovemaking loses some of it's magic when it's reduced to a step-by-step process. Spontaneity and creativity are important elements as well.

[EvilEvilKitten]

But when you are having problems, you need some structure. You need something people can read, think about and consider before they get into it. That's the point of this program. How many of you even knew about the posterior fornix before you read about it here?

When you haven't had sex for 10 YEARS what kind of spontanity can you reasonably expect? NONE. When neither of you has had any experience and/or has not developed a satisfying technique, what kind of "magic" can you expect? Blundering about or "slam bam" does NOT cut it. When your spouse is fighting you every step of the way and you ask how to begin are you going to be satisfied with something like "Well, just tell her how you feel" or would you rather be able to SHOW her something. "This is what I had in mind."

Instead of fighting this TRY it first.
Because everyone who has tried it has nothing but GOOD things to say about it.

[PsychoSexual Madman]

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the program, or anything in it, is a bad idea. (Except for the P-spot massage. Tried it a few times, hated it.) And I can see where structure is needed for a couple who really has NO idea what they're doing. But if a couple hasn't had sex for ten years, there are WAY bigger problems at work than anything the program can fix.

My point is that it has it's place, but it isn't the end all, be all of sexual experiences. Three times per session? Three sessions a week? Come on. I can't speak for others, but I can't do something three times a night, three nights a week and not get bored with it, no matter how great it is. Did you just mean for the program to be like a jump start to a couple's sex life? If so, that would make much more sense to me than simply saying, "Follow the steps precisely for X amount of time, Y times a week, until death do you part and you'll have a great sex life."

[EvilEvilKitten]

You get bored by sex??? The you aren't paying close enough attention to the details of what you're doing.

Honey, The Program isn't the problem here.

[PsychoSexual Madman]

No, I don't get bored with sex. At least not the sex I'm having. I get bored with the same routine over and over again.

[EvilEvilKitten]

Creativity is all in the details - wake up.

[PsychoSexual Madman]

I've given a lot of thought to this over the last few days, which is unusual for me, (I don't usually get caught up in a rolling argument on an internet forum) and I think I need to clarify where I'm coming from.

As much as I hate to admit this, I think one of my character flaws got the better of me in this case, and I decided from reading many of your posts that I just didn't like the way you doled out advice. I thought that you came off as conceited, and if there's one thing I can't stand, it's a know-it-all. I think the best way for people to have better, healthier lives in general, (not just sex) is for people to simply have the courage and humility to find whatever it is that works for them, and the strength to apply it to their lives. Not just take someone else's step-by-step instructions and end up even more frustrated and bitter because they couldn't get a square peg to fit a round hole. Re-reading some of your posts, my new impression of you is of someone who has done just that, which deserves kudos. Far too few people do it. You don't sound like you would be too happy trying to apply my views to your life.

I do however think it's fair to point out that my wife and I haven't followed much of your advice, either. Not much on relationships, and only the more basic advice about sex. Nonetheless, we've been together for five years now and haven't looked back. Proof enough to me that there is a right path for everyone, and they aren't all the same.

I concede that I let my perception of some of your views and your writing style color my judgement and I took it out on your program. For that, I sincerely apologise.

P.S. -- Wifey and I somehow ended up with a whole free afternoon tommorrow, and we've decided that the program would at the very least be a great way to kill all that time. I'll let you know how it goes.