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Let's say we all met up one day...

I have been to a couple of Net meetings where we all got together for a few drinks. On both occasions, I've had the most incredibly deep relationships with friends online, and then we all met up...and we're all like, "Who the f*** are you?"

Of course, we all quickly warmed up to each other, but it's stunning how equate physical appearance to mental characteristics, and when our perceptions clash with what we know as fact, we tend to still go with our hearts first, and reason takes over after she has support.

I really think, despite the warmth and raw sensuality and sexuality between most of us, if all of us on the site met up one day, far from turning into a mass orgy in 100 seconds flat, we'd all be looking at each other with a LOT of suspicion.

My point being? I don't know that I have one. Just something that occurred to me recently.

Jaybee.

My eyes follow you crossing the room, the gorgeous motion of your feet, my ears listen to the sound of Denier brushing against Italian Oak, as you gaze out to the moon once again, the light from it dappling the room in an ethereal glow.

I produce a bottle of Krug from the bar, and open it quietly, the clink of two flutes louder than the exit of the cork.  In one frictionless movement, I put both arms around you, and bend the bottle to pour two glasses in front of your eyes.

Kind lady, you effortlessly relieve me of my task, and within seconds, you are facing me, one hand carrying two flutes filled to the brim, without a single drop overflowing, another weaving a gentle path up my satin tuxedo shirt, your soft palms causing me to close my eyes once more as you one-handedly undo the S-clip of my bow tie.

Opening my eyes, I take my champagne; you look at me quizzically, I gaze back with confusion; and then it hits me.  You smile like the sun itself at me, delighted at my recollection.

"Perfect love", we breathe in unison, clinking our glasses together.

Our eyes never once parting as we raise the flutes, the mediterreanean breeze through the balcony louvres blowing the pungent tang of the drink straight to our noses, we make an unspoken pact to finish our libations.  We toss them back without hesitation.

You begin to speak; at infinite speed, my hand flashes up to cover your lips with my index finger.  I smile, and at the speed of a man leaving paradise, I move my finger toward it, down your chin, decelerating still as it travels down your swanlike neck, stopping briefly as your eyes close and mouth opens with passion, down, down, down still, through the valley and down to the middle pearl of your blouse.

I undo it with only my thumb and middle finger, and lower, and lower...the final button is undone, and as I gently slide the garment off your rolling shoulders, so am I; you blush slightly, although you indeed suspected the effect on me, you are genuinely surprised by the intensity of it.

You are truly magnificent, a regal princess of royal sumptuousness.  Everything is golden in this golden moment, I see dual moons everywhere now; in your light eyes that twinkle with wicked knowingness, in the dual orbs below that laugh at any need for suspension, in the twin studs that leap like dolphins eager for recreation.  I move my gaze down to the womanly, yet athletic curve of your lower torso, unswervingly feminine, yet seemingly devoid of any excess, This is truly a night fit for a prince, my eyes drinking in the entire spectacular sight, such as I thought was reserved only for the Afterlife.

Fire and steel now veritably exist in the same man; I take my prize in my arms, and set her down like treasure on the king-sized bed.  Slowly, controlledly, I sit to take my place beside her now.

I turn back to take one more look at the moon; it seems to shimmer slightly, perhaps as if trembling.  I know not why; As I look, a breeze flows silently through the window to blow some of your silken hair onto my cheek; I savour this moment as the strands play on my face like the strings of a Mandolin...

I remember how, all my life, from boy to man, I have been friends with the Wind.  

Tonight, at last, I realise why.

Jaybee.

Ah yessssssss...

My eyes flare as they watch you walk into the distance.  I have no intention of letting someone in a billion simply walk into the night.

But, just as even doves themselves have pride, so do I; so sorely tempted as I am to give chase, I grip the bannister with an iron hand, more to calm my desire than to correct my balance.

My desire, notwithstanding, overpowers all reason.  I race over to where you look out to the gleaming urban lights, stop just behind you long enough to temper my ardour.  I take a deep breath; you hear me, and turn around of your own volition to look once again at me.  You read me ONLY too well, and a faint, knowing smile crosses your lips and pale blue eyes.

Realising the time for subtlety may well have already enjoyed it's period of vogue, I slide my hand around your back.  To my satisfaction, the gliding action meets with your approval, and once again I dare to repeat the movement, your sigh indicating content.

My hand lingers there; no more can I ignore your purring of delight, and my other arm surrounds you completely.

It is just TOO much.  I pull you close and I pull in a shocked, deep breath, the pleasure of your form makes me draw in a fast, raspy breath, as if I've just been shot.  The pleasure is sudden, indeed.

You smile, faintly, and knowingly.  Although much larger than you, a visiting alien would think the smaller creature was torturing the much larger one.  The sheer nirvana being experienced by my brain is but an everyday occurence to you, and stroke my hair caringly, as if I were a pet whose welfare you cared oh so deeply for.

I gaze once again into the dual mirrors that are your eyes, and am stunned by the humanity that stares back at me, so giving, so generous, so caring, so everything to me.

Your hands travel up my back, that sensitive tract that no man admits is such.  I almost die of shock, the pleasure so intense I lose control.

I fall to one knee, both through disorentation and correctness; I have no right to tower so tall above a spirit so noble, so giving, so loving.  I offer all that I am; you smile benevolently and amusedly, like Venus entertaining a mortal man, and encourage me to resume my full height.

Emboldened now, I look around; the terrace is almost ours, save for a couple 7 yards away.  I do not 'fear' you as I did, you sense the shift in the balance of power, and to my surprised delight, seem to like it.  I KISS you, hungrily and wantonly; this has been so long coming, and I ravish your mouth without fear or hesitation.  I take your hand, and lead you to my room.

The night is ours, and the barriers exist only to fall now.  At the door of my room, I behold that stunning silk blouse, and wonder if I have ever torn open such an expensive garment.

The promise of what lies beneath leads my hands to grasp the collars, my breath hot on your face like the scirocco winds that leave the blistering Spanish lands to suddenly heat up the cold, passionless counties of England...but a part of me feels terrified to be permitted to view Heaven itself, and refuses to rip open the shirt.

You grin, and clasp my now shaking hands...

Jaybee.

Jaybee wrote
[QUOTE=Quote ]Finewine's thoughts have REALLY given me a thrill, and not only at the mental level.  I found her qualities simply too seductive not to reciprocate in kind.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Quote ]Our identities slowly recover, but our unity remains, indeed REIGNS, supreme.   I embrace you with cherish and gratitude, and once again, our eyes form mirrors into our one soul.  We continue gazing deeply.  

I know in my heart what is to come, but you sense my need to be surprised...
[/QUOTE]

I am resting in your deep gaze lost in the many facets of the flame I see within it, each of the brilliant radiating facets calling me to dance with it. I am overwhelmed at their attention each so unique and special in its own design to create the gentle ferocity of the whole. There begins a glowing warmth within my breast. I want to cradle the facets in my hand and bring each of them to my lips to gently kiss them. Your sweet words spoken of me has brought them to warm my cheeks.

My fingers of my right hand move to caress my neck and they move down to the first of the buttons on the pink silk blouse. I rub the pearl button between my thumb and index finger while I am still gazing in your eyes thinking about the facets of the flame and their beauty. It is very crowded at the table all of a sudden...

I rise from the table with my wine in hand and walk over to stand close to your side. Your head is turned following me, our eyes are still gazing deeply. I take a sip of wine, place my right hand on your shoulder and gently kiss your forehead.

I walk out to the patio dining area in the cool night air. The full moon is shining brightly through the window onto my empty chair and Venus is seen by the smiling man in the moon.

[QUOTE=Quote (mmparks @ Mar. 18 2005,13:26)]Ive read many of your posts and I have to say.. If I was a guy, Id f*** you.   ( humor... Im full of it.)[/QUOTE]
That's one of the many things I love about you Americans...you say what's on your minds, and make no bones about it.

Such refreshing directness, it's delightful.

I write like you do quite often, but Finewine's thoughts have REALLY given me a thrill, and not only at the mental level. I found her qualities simply too seductive not to reciprocate in kind. The man who finally wins her heart will fall asleep and awake with a smile every night, and every day, for the rest of his life, and I envy him with a vengeance.

We are indeed a good bunch here. But please, do NOT write off your chances of meeting a good man for romance. Our gender is as diverse as yours; some of us are whimsical, others pragmatic; some of us even arrange flowers without screwing other guys, although some screw other guys without ever touching a flower.

Indeed, there exists a Jack for every Jill, and vice-versa. Look in those places that you normally do not; there he shall reside.

Jaybee.

[QUOTE=Quote (mmparks @ Mar. 18 2005,12:26)]Damn.. I have to share???

Nahh you know what Im talking about.. those insecure women .. I certainly see they are the minority here! In fact Id say thgis place has some VERY well rounded people( pun intended). Besides.. I have a man who occupies me and I havent the time or inclination to pursue anyone else! LMAO!

Ive read many of your posts and I have to say.. If I was a guy, Id f*** you.   ( humor... Im full of it.)[/QUOTE]
Yes you have to share or I will claw your eyes out!!

No, wait. If I did that then we would have a big cat fight and the guys would get all excited thinking we might kiss or something.

We better just be friends I think.

*Oh stop pouting boys*

I do know the women your talking about and I don't think we have any here. Maybe a couple that think we shouldn't flirt on the threads but hey can't please everyone right?

Damn.. I have to share???

Nahh you know what Im talking about.. those insecure women .. I certainly see they are the minority here! In fact Id say thgis place has some VERY well rounded people( pun intended). Besides.. I have a man who occupies me and I havent the time or inclination to pursue anyone else! LMAO!

Ive read many of your posts and I have to say.. If I was a guy, Id f*** you. ( humor... Im full of it.)

Welcome to the board mmparks.

Were a friendly bunch for the most part and I don't think you will find any nasty women here just because the guys will like you. Just don't be greedy with them and remember to share and play nicely.

Well hell! If I could write like ya'll Id be writing erotic novels for a living :P Unfortunately I AM exactly how I type.. folks either love me or hate me. Ive had women online get damned nasty with me cause men like me (online and off).. and I can tell you I get a sick thrill out of that However, Ive met several people offline and we have become very close friends. Personal reasons abound for me never having met a man with romantic intentions offline.. namely Im 5'4" and 115 lbs... no match for a hormonally driven male.

Ok comence with the eroticism.

I do not wish you to ever leave .

Sensing your lack of heat from a now defunct world that so lacked warmth, I eagerly pull you closer into my fire, warming your frozen senses with the flames.  Yet your cold brings with it so much goodness, so much altruism, such a cool nobility in all things.  

In our embrace, the two ageless adversaries, ice and fire, now rejoin as wrongly estranged soulmates with astoundingly revatilised passion.  Our beings melt forming one, the joining creating a heat of its own, and one is all we are.  

The steam from our union fills...everything, everywhere, and we are but water, a pool of ourselves, neither of us knowing where the other begins or ends, nor caring.

Our identities slowly recover, but our unity remains, indeed REIGNS, supreme.   I embrace you with cherish and gratitude, and once again, our eyes form mirrors into our one soul.  We continue gazing deeply.  

I know in my heart what is to come, but you sense my need to be surprised...

[QUOTE=Quote ]I took them all as compliments, but as the words 'blunt' and 'opinionated' are usually employed negatively, so I mistook these as such. [/QUOTE]
I think then, the word 'frank', which is the word you used, is a better word for the word 'blunt' and I will say 'strong convictions' better expresses the word 'opinionated'.
[QUOTE=Quote ]Thank you, kind lady.  Savour it, and delight too in the fact that a generous rump on a man has more use than just aesthetics...[/QUOTE]
I will delight in the fact that you are so confident in its versatility.  
[QUOTE=Quote ]Do please enjoy a sip of your wine, and look deep now, into my eyes, as I tell you a story about them.[/QUOTE]
I take my index finger and rub it around the lip of the glass and dip my index finger into the ruby pool of royal libation as I listen to your story.
[QUOTE=Quote ]Now take another sip, lean in closer, if you dare, and look just at one of my eyes.  You will see the moon reflected not in my eye, but AS my eye;[/QUOTE]
I swirl the chilled red wine with my index finger and as I lean forward looking deep in your eyes, I place that wet finger in my mouth and suck it pulling it slowly out of my mouth down over my lower lip... The Barolo is smooth and there is a hint of licorice and spice I am not sure of... I swirl the wine glass in my hand, pausing the glass next to my lips, taking in the Barolo's full aroma in one long breath. I sip it.
Thank you for such a lovely wine.
[QUOTE=Quote ]Certain tribes believe, as we do, that there are actually two universes, the one inside the mind, and the one outside. The eyes are the mirror between them, and each is a reflection of the other.[/QUOTE]
Each sharing strength of life from the other each separate yet also one...

[QUOTE=Quote ]That the universe around us has disappeared, the bar, the road outside, the world outside, everything,  except for the moon, and the wine.

Finish your drink.  The world's shackles no longer hold us.  Let us make the man in the moon blush.[/QUOTE]

There is no need to finish my drink as I gaze in your dark brown eyes and touch your soul and know the warmth of it's fire.
I hold your universe with my hazel eyes that reflect the blue pure flame of life radiating from the yellows and oranges of the fire dancing within.
We are unshackled from the world... I will linger there until you wish otherwise...
and I think the man in the moon will know more than blushing.

[quote=finewine,Mar. 15 2005,21:08][/quote]
[QUOTE=Quote ]Jaybee,
I appreciate your frankness. Thank you.[/QUOTE]

De rien.

[QUOTE=Quote ]I was going to reel the attributes off at a bar.. but I was just too turned on by the view of your rear at the moment. You work very hard to give women that view. I just wanted you to know that I appreciate your efforts...[/QUOTE]

Thank you, kind lady.  Savour it, and delight too in the fact that a generous rump on a man has more use than just aesthetics...

[QUOTE=Quote ]I meant the attributes all as a compliment. Which attributes would you think were not a compliment?[/QUOTE]

I took them all as compliments, but as the words 'blunt' and 'opinionated' are usually employed negatively, so I mistook these as such.  I am proud of being both, and am honoured you meant them as compliments.

[QUOTE=Quote ]How do I find the time? hmmm. It is a good question.
discipline, no tv, multitasking, organization, and an average of 5-6 hours of sleep a day.[/QUOTE]

No TV and only 6 hours sleep?  I take my virtual hat off to you - and anything else you like...

[QUOTE=Quote ]I will always take the time to talk with those who wish to talk to me. The human spirit is too delicate, precious, and priceless to me to not take the time.[/QUOTE]

That's beautiful, it truly is.  Yes, I would indeed love to talk to you.  I feel I can learn much from you, and you may also gain some insight into areas you usually don't delve into too.

[QUOTE=Quote ]and if ever you want to buy me a drink at the bar, I am sitting at the table over to your left by the window...[/QUOTE]

A large glass of Barolo, I'd guess would find favour with you; I've noted that the women I get along famously well with are also red wine drinkers, and Barolo is the smoothest, most supple red in this establishment.

[QUOTE=Quote ]The full moon is lovely tonight. [/QUOTE]

Yes it is.  Do please enjoy a sip of your wine, and look deep now, into my eyes, as I tell you a story about them.  As an East Indian, I share some heritage with my distant cousins separated by thousands of years of migration, the American-indians.  Certain tribes believe, as we do, that there are actually two universes, the one inside the mind, and the one outside. The eyes are the mirror between them, and each is a reflection of the other.

Now take another sip, lean in closer, if you dare, and look just at one of my eyes.  You will see the moon reflected not in my eye, but AS my eye; an inverted image, the white outer space of my iris as infinite as the great skies above us, and the black moon of my pupils, like a gleaming obsidian pearl in the milk of vastness.

Now, look at them both.  Inversion becomes duality.  Linger as long as you want.  Your own heart confirms what your mind is reading in my eyes, right now.  What you do not need to look around, in order to know.  That the universe around us has disappeared, the bar, the road outside, the world outside, everything,  except for the moon, and the wine.

Finish your drink.  The world's shackles no longer hold us.  Let us make the man in the moon blush.

Jaybee.

I haven't met enough people from the net to find out. But i see what you mean.

I used to use yahoo chat quite a lot, but soon discovered that you couldn't trust a lot of people. Now I may be being naive, but so far i feel happy to talk to people on these boards. In fact i would go so far as saying that it has totally re-kindled my interest in the internet.

Thank you everyone!!

Well said Wally!!

One of the good things about typing stuff is that you get a chance to correc erm i mean correct the more obvious errors we make in our everyday speech.

You also get the chance to re-read other's comments and think about what was actually meant.

Of course you lose the body langauge that is so important.

Also I think there is a hint of mystery and intrigue about talking to someone through posts/chat/mail etc.

Yo umight be forgiven for thinking that i prefer online stuff to real life. Actually i love face to face encounters... they are just a bit different.

Have a nice day everyone.

I've met people from online and have been both pleasantly surprised and deepy disgusted.

In my experience (not saying it applies to everyone) usually the people who are weird about sharing pics or giving information or meeting were totally lying about what they looked like, were married and trying to cheat or were just plain wacko. That is why I don't like cybering or talking in an intimate way with people I don't know.

It grosses me out. Because if I don't know them I AM imagining the 500 pound hairy sweaty guy. lol.

I'm not saying I'm Ms. America or anything, but I like to know who I'm talking to before I get intimate in anyway with someone. I don't mind chatting or stuff like that about sexual topics, but beyond that, it freaks me out.

And yea, it's hard to read body languauge (well impossible) and other things, so things get distorted pretty easily and quickly. I'm pretty sure that people I don't get along too well with on the board and I would probably get along in person, but sometimes I think the computer alter egos tend to clash. I dunno, just my two cents worth.

Maybe it made sense.. maybe not. lol

In some respects, online relationships are no different than offline relationships... some people are "good" at them; some people aren't.

As has been suggested, one of the things about online relationships is they can be very focused... all you have are words (okay, maybe a cam LOL). But that can also be the problem - you don't get to see the other person in conversation/life outside the words. How people relate to others and how they function in society is an important part of their being.

Some people will have an intense online relationship because it allows them to reveal their deepest self. Others will have an intense online relationship because it allows them to HIDE their deepest self.

Interestingly, in a forum people have trouble hiding their deepest selves for very long. Posting to a variety of threads and addressing different people often reveals true character, beliefs, and biases.

Speaking of other threads... I've noted elsewhere that the best relationships have an equality about them. Two people both benefiting, both happy with the way things are. So much of this is about motivation, really. Whether online or off, it's ultimately about finding others to share with - not to use for selfish purposes.

There are a few people on the forums that I feel I share with... some that I feel I have a "relationship" (online) with beyond posting; others that I feel are kindred spirits. I'm betting we'd do well in a bar... or somewhere else a bit more intimate in several cases.

[QUOTE=Quote (MizMinx555 @ Mar. 13 2005,21:15)]I view online relationships with more than a little skepticism these days. I knew a guy online once, for a really, really long time, things progressed and we began talking on the phone. I probably talked on the phone with him everyday for about four months, AFTER knowing him for a year plus before that, so needless to say, I thought I knew him very well. Finally we decided to meet. I was visiting a school in Chicago, near where he lived, and we decided he would stop by the hotel and we'd have dinner. I was down there for a week, I heard from him once or twice (still saying we'd see each other in the next few days), but long story short my cell was stolen and though I gave him my moms cell number, I never heard from him again. He just stopped calling. And when I got home and saw him online one day, he just logged off, and when I emailed him, he deleted it with out reading it (I could see in an email status check). I honestly dont know what happened. Maybe he got cold feet... I suppose I'll never know for sure. And while I dont think ALL such meetings or "relationships" are as doomed as mine was, I dont trust them.

I still chat online, and when good convo comes along I enjoy the intellectual stimulation, but I can not and will not allow myself to become involved, emotionally or otherwise.

So theres my little online sob story...lol[/QUOTE]

Online relationships are definitely very tricky at best, it really is a crap shoot since you can portray yourself as anything you want to be. I have to say I truly admire you sticking it out a year and four months talking to your online interest, and to be honest, I am kind of shocked he blew you off after spending so much of his time with you. I guess there were a lot of things going on behind the scenes on his part *shrug*.

I myself have been burnt twice, and it always seems when I am not even looking for anything, someone comes along and accidently crosses my path lol. You would think I would learn :P but I am of the notion, that nothing ventured, nothing gained. Yes I am wiser, more cautious, and I perhaps I will be hurt again sometime in the future, but you never know if that person you are talking to becomes a good friend or possibly much more. Currently I have been talking with someone for a little over four months, I have hope but I am taking things slow and who knows, something may come out of it, something may not. Anyway, perhaps I have rambled some, forgive me, I seem to do that from time to time *chuckles*

Jaybee,
I appreciate your frankness. Thank you.
I was going to reel the attributes off at a bar.. but I was just too turned on by the view of your rear at the moment. You work very hard to give women that view. I just wanted you to know that I appreciate your efforts...

I meant the attributes all as a compliment. Which attributes would you think were not a compliment?

How do I find the time? hmmm. It is a good question.
discipline, no tv, multitasking, organization, and an average of 5-6 hours of sleep a day.

I will always take the time to talk with those who wish to talk to me. The human spirit is too delicate, precious, and priceless to me to not take the time.

and if ever you want to buy me a drink at the bar, I am sitting at the table over to your left by the window...
The full moon is lovely tonight.

FW post alot because she is fun and we all adore her.

[QUOTE=Quote (finewine @ Mar. 15 2005,12:05)]Jaybee asks: why did FW ask?
Just curious to know what suspicions you'd have about me or if you'd think me worth noticing.

Thank you for your thoughts.

Jaybee asks: what does FW think of me?
Why are you preframing yourself for both guns of negative criticism?

FW thinks this:
You are forthright, confident, a hunter, deep thinking, vibrant, blunt, opinionated, good natured, aggressive, realistic.[/QUOTE]
You know FW, if you had reeled that list of attributes off to me in a bar, the drinks would be on me all night!

I take each one on it's own as a compliment, even the few you may not have meant as such, but as a group, I'm proud that someone could notice them all.

'Vibrant' and 'Good natured' were the greatest of them.

You mentioned "suspicions"...in the spirit of frankness, I DO have one. You've made 10 posts per day since arriving here. I've had some less than positive experiences talking to people with daily post counts in the 10-20 range, at another site a couple of ladies had 20+, and each was quite bonkers. I left that site pdq, and I've noticed the same with guys who post on Boxing sites 15 times a day. Statistically, it seems that posting MORE than 10 times a day is a bad omen.

You don't strike me as anything like those people whatsoever, but I am wondering how you find the time, that's all. Balancing that out, I do find this site pretty slow, I wish more people posted as frequently as you - just not MORE frequently!

Jaybee.

Jaybee asks: why did FW ask?
Just curious to know what suspicions you'd have about me or if you'd think me worth noticing.

Thank you for your thoughts.

Jaybee asks: what does FW think of me?
Why are you preframing yourself for both guns of negative criticism?

FW thinks this:
You are forthright, confident, a hunter, deep thinking, vibrant, blunt, opinionated, good natured, aggressive, realistic.

[QUOTE=Quote (finewine @ Mar. 14 2005,06:59)]Kisses Tessie.  We must get together for a lunch rendezvous.
We are way overdue.[/QUOTE]
Ok, here we go.

I have tried to find something negative to balance out the pollyanna stuff - but I failed.

You're sweet, kind, thoughtful, generous in thought and very likely spirit too (I say "likely" only because I haven't met you) and I VERY much doubt you're a 500Ib guy! I really don't think you have a bad bone in your body - and you know which way I mean that...

I am still intrigued by a couple of things; why you asked, and what you think of me. I'm one of the few people you come across who takes negative criticism as an opportunity for improvement, not a matter of offence, so feel free to let loose with both cannons.

Jaybee.

Kisses Tessie. We must get together for a lunch rendezvous.
We are way overdue.

[QUOTE=Quote (cajdi2004 @ Mar. 14 2005,04:43)]sex and cyber relationships, how destructive they can be to "real" relationships.  I don't doubt that they can be as comforting and as destructive as real relationships and affairs.  

I think it is all about keeping it in perspective.  keeping it online keeps it as a strictly mental thing.  remember, here we are all attractive, witty caring people with no relationship baggage.  We all perform at the peak of our sexuality and never tire or wake up with morning breath or bad hair.  [/QUOTE]
Well I agree it is very important to keep things in perspective when dealing with any kind of a relationship. I never forget that unless I am cybering with a bot (which I don't believe I ever have) that I am dealing with real people with real emotions.

Your right that cyber is easy because we can be whatever we want to be and take it as far as we want to.

I actually see it as a benefit to real life in many ways. I have become more open, gotten new ideas, been kept sexually stimulated and have then tranferred that to my life at home.

I have met people where it has been just a short time of mutual fun and I have met people that I now consider very dear friends of mine.

Have I made mistakes? Hell yeah! But I try to learn from those and don't repeat them. I will say it's important to know what your wanting before jumping into any kind of online relationship.

Oh and finewine honey, When I think of you its never as a 500 lb, hairy, sweaty man.

hey,i did not say you were!, I'm only saying that it helps keep this whole thing in the perspective that we are really anonymous and this is all about the free expressions of of minds without regard to physicalness. And, I am sure that not everybody is who they portray themselves to be.

As for you, bring your 500 pounds over to mine, invite a couple of others over and we can have 2 tons of fun!

sniff sniff...
you think I am a 500 pound man?!?!

well, let me reach out and squeeze your 500 pounds and tell me you still think that.

this is something I have definately struggled with lately as I have goten more involved with this particular online community.

I have read and heard a lot lately about the perils of cyber sex and cyber relationships, how destructive they can be to "real" relationships. I don't doubt that they can be as comforting and as destructive as real relationships and affairs.

I think it is all about keeping it in perspective. keeping it online keeps it as a strictly mental thing. remember, here we are all attractive, witty caring people with no relationship baggage. We all perform at the peak of our sexuality and never tire or wake up with morning breath or bad hair.

I always try to remember that most of the people might be 500 pound hairy, sweaty, stinky men (this includes the people posting as woman)

the key thing is that online, it is all mental, the image that is created. The perception that we create and play with every day.

Just my little bit, I would plaster my name on my forehead with duct tape so everyone would know who the crazy person really was. If you met me in person after meeting or chatting with me online you would know it, Im the same person no matter what. Was real poor at acting!

JR

I view online relationships with more than a little skepticism these days. I knew a guy online once, for a really, really long time, things progressed and we began talking on the phone. I probably talked on the phone with him everyday for about four months, AFTER knowing him for a year plus before that, so needless to say, I thought I knew him very well. Finally we decided to meet. I was visiting a school in Chicago, near where he lived, and we decided he would stop by the hotel and we'd have dinner. I was down there for a week, I heard from him once or twice (still saying we'd see each other in the next few days), but long story short my cell was stolen and though I gave him my moms cell number, I never heard from him again. He just stopped calling. And when I got home and saw him online one day, he just logged off, and when I emailed him, he deleted it with out reading it (I could see in an email status check). I honestly dont know what happened. Maybe he got cold feet... I suppose I'll never know for sure. And while I dont think ALL such meetings or "relationships" are as doomed as mine was, I dont trust them.

I still chat online, and when good convo comes along I enjoy the intellectual stimulation, but I can not and will not allow myself to become involved, emotionally or otherwise.

So theres my little online sob story...lol

Hehe. I actually have not met many people with whom I met online. Maybe twice or so. And I have noticed that some people are so much different online than they are in real life...a great example is my ex...but I won't go into it. I myself is probably about the same online as I am in real life...well...maybe a bit less hyper
And yeah, there are some poeple i would love to meet in real life. And what they look like doesn't really matter to me.

Your talking about Monie again?

[QUOTE=Quote (finewine @ Mar. 12 2005,21:16)]Jaybee, if you've read my posts, do you have an image of me you'd care to share?
I am curious.[/QUOTE]
I'll look up some of your posts again to double-check, and I'll let you know.

Meantime, what do you think of li'l me?

Jaybee.

I have some friends that I am very close to online that I would love to meet in person. I know for me that I try to protray myself online as I really am and I believe spending a lot of time with someone online brings out their true personalities as well.

Of course there are a few members on this board I would love to meet in real life. Some to sit and talk and laugh with and others well...............

Jaybee,
I would go into the meeting knowing that there would be raised eyebrows and differences based on the thoughts you expressed so well that we've all thought. In expecting that, I would not say "Who the f*** are you", but I would say, "Wow, how neat to meet and get to know another part of the person I've met online."

I would go into the meeting also knowing that I am true to myself and who I am even if the packaging may not meet the expectations that was imagined by someone else reading my posts. If my package that fades away one day is more important than my spirit that lives forever to that person then well, I will still love the person just as intensely with my spirit and heart. I just won't get the opportunity to love the person that intensely with my package. LOL!

Jaybee, if you've read my posts, do you have an image of me you'd care to share?
I am curious.

yah.. i think it would be kinda cool..ive never done it before but you could finally meet that person you have seemed to click with on the computer in real life and see how it goes..lol i probably made no sense to anyone so ill shut up now

I have only ever met one person i have ever talked to online.

It was awkward. Very awkward at first. However within an hour we were having sex so clearly we got over it.

Even though it was wuite a humerous encounter for a variety of reasons, if i were ever to meet anyone again i would be a lot more careful who it was and be more sure as to how much i liked them.

That episode did put me off, but I do know people who i would definately like to meet and am confident that we would get on just fine.

What is clothing but a mask for the spirit. I feel so undone with your eyes seeing the depths of my soul and the strength of your focused passion restrained in your shaking hands. I lean against the doorway for a moment then with our gaze intertwined our eyes smiling, I slowly begin to unbutton a pearl and then another and one more.

The moon is shining brightly through the balcony's glass door on the other side of the room. I step out of my high heels and feel the hard wood floor beneath my stockings.

Such restraint and control... there is no mere mortal man in the moon near Venus, but the steel and fire of Mars and Vulcan.

mmm Jaybee, you have surprised me, I think, instead of me surprising you.

I love tons of fun!

Ahhhhhhhhh, we make it day by day watching the world go by in a moment when time stands still we look out into forever

talking about ppl being blunt...makes me want to roll a blunt....I like how chillaxed everyone is here. Ladies be speakin there minds, dudes be speakin theres. Alot of trust and hopefully honesty is divulged into this site. Questions are asked here that perhaps some people are too afraid to ask in person. So indeed people can be things they are not online, but they can also open a chapter of their life, not yet seen by the physical world. When they can't talk to people in person they release and talk online. Which isnt such a bad thing, because in a way you are getting to know someones deepest inner taboos and feelings. Anyways Im off to roll that blunt...late

lol, have fun smokin it...:-P

we are all honest here, but i bet if we all met at some bar or something we ALL would be lying about something...except for like Brandye and a couple others..

[QUOTE=LittleFury]And I have noticed that some people are so much different online than they are in real life...a great example is my ex...but I won't go into it. I myself is probably about the same online as I am in real life...well...maybe a bit less hyper [/QUOTE]
That is so true IMO. A couple years back I went to this meetup for another online forum I visit and there were maybe 30-40 of us there from a number of countries. (At the time I was *extremely* well-known / popular / prolific on that forum.)

The meetup was ... weird. There were a few folks I had met already, but I am so reserved / cautious / introverted in person that the whole thing felt uncomfortable. I didn't really talk to many people and kinda felt like a fish out of water.

that blunt was great lol. But yea I think it would be cool if some of us met up, but it would be a scary and nerv wracking event. But in the end I think it would be pretty cool.

I've noticed that on sports or political message boards, I'm way more argumentative than I am in real life. Other than that, I've never really been anything but myself.

Years ago, corresponding with girls I met in chat rooms, I experimented with being more open and sensitive than I was in real life (I was always too self conscious and reserved to do that previously). It was a really positive experience for me; I realized that when I layed it out there, showed my true self, and actually said what I was really thinking then I got a much more positive response than I ever dreamed I would.

The positive experiences from that emboldened me to try it in real life and Voila! I finally started to show people the side of me that I had always hidden and I've never been the same. I'm a much more open and confident person now and all it took was a kickstart.

So as a result, I'm not one to demonize or trivialize socializing through the internet. It can be a very useful tool for some of us.

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