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Lesbian sex and protection?

Hi.

I was wondering what same sex female couples should do for protection against STDs. Neither I nor my partner are virgins to males. I had sex with a male once and contracted an STD, even though a condom was used. (Talk about bad luck!) I'd rather not give my girlfriend an STD. How do we protect ourselves?

Thinking through this I have no direct answer but what if you both went and were tested to be certain both are free of any STD's? I would think, really the biggest concern for the two of you is oral to vaginal contact. Hopefully Brandye jumps in here to give you a good answer...this is just my best thought for now. Sorry.

Well when last I tested, I was clean, but one can never be too sure. I'm just worried; the STD was a painful and embarassing experience and putting some through that would just...suck.

Well have you had sex since you were last tested? If so, do the test again.
If not, then get your partner checked & then you can have lesbian sex agaon.

No, I have not had sex since that one encounter.
Her and I have never 'done the deed' before...I haven't with any female yet. I'm just concerned that mouth germs might give her or me an infection.

The best bet would be to each get tested and then go merrily on your way. With women, I would not dream of oral sex until we knew one another quite well. Until you are each tested, use hands and do not bring your genitals into direct contact and avoid the exchange of body fluids.

If the STD you contracted was viral, you may still be a carrier; if bacterial, your treatment should have cleared it up. Your concern about mouth germs is well placed. The mouth is actually "dirtier" than the vagina. Many thrush infections are a result of oral sex. Good mouthwash helps.

The standard answer would be to use a dental dam for oral sex. I have never used one preferring, instead, to find satisfaction other ways.

how does lesbian "sex" possibly go past anything but foreplay? just curious, call me ignorant.

well it is an ignorant question, but i guess since your being honest and asking then thats less ignorant.

Sex, intercourse, and ****

are just words mate.

they are absolutely defined by the user of the word and not by what society or tradition says.

An anology could be found in the sporting world. Alot of old school purists would never call Skateboarding, snowboarding, nascar racing exct..... a sport. Yet they contain just as much practice skill and effort as the traditional sports and any fans or participants don't feel any less love for it just cause they dont fit the standard set by the traditional sports.

LoL i just compared Lesbian sex to professional sports, um i hope that makes sense.

Dude,

There is very little a man can do that another woman cannot. You provide a penis and, physically, that can be pleasant. You also leave behind a little deposit that can be psychologically satisfying for a woman. Everything else a man cando, so can another woman - often better.

You seem to equate sex with insertion of your penis and the rest as "foreplay;" women tend to see more activity as romantic and contributory to sexual satisfaction. Men tend to need an orgasm to feel satisfied; women are often satisfied without achieving orgasm.

[QUOTE=Brandye;169021]Dude,

There is very little a man can do that another woman cannot. You provide a penis and, physically, that can be pleasant. You also leave behind a little deposit that can be psychologically satisfying for a woman. Everything else a man cando, so can another woman - often better.

You seem to equate sex with insertion of your penis and the rest as "foreplay;" women tend to see more activity as romantic and contributory to sexual satisfaction. Men tend to need an orgasm to feel satisfied; women are often satisfied without achieving orgasm.[/QUOTE]

I'm not gonna get into a huge pissing contest and I'm not bashing lesbains or anything like that. All I'm talking about is strictly the mechanics that make up "sex" or "intercourse". I'm not talking about loads of foreplay or kissing etc. I was under the impression that "sex" is the insertion of the penis into the vagina. am I wrong? cause if sex is a more general term then could I stick my penis in a box of lego's and call that sex as well? sure lesbians and gays can use dildo's or whatever they choose, but is it actually "sex" or more like "super foreplay"?

Well you certainly are in league with your recent past President who claimed, "I did not have sex with that woman!"

Most people will include much of what he did have with that woman as sex, or at least sexual.

You asked and a couple of us answered; hardly an argument.

[QUOTE=Brandye;169078]Well you certainly are in league with your recent past President who claimed, "I did not have sex with that woman!"

Most people will include much of what he did have with that woman as sex, or at least sexual.

You asked and a couple of us answered; hardly an argument.[/QUOTE]

I'm not American, so that doesn't apply to me sorry.

I don't think you're really answering the question though you keep working around it.

Dude, Bill Clinton tried that reasoning & it didn't work for him. A good way to figure it out is, if it feels real good, it's probably sex. At least by todays standards.

Madeye, about the Nascar reference. There's a saying in the motorsports community, "If it doesn't have an engine, it's not a sport, it's just a game." LOL

Well im not a fan of nascar, so i have never heard that reference before.

But i do see a strange relation between those two arguments.

Alot of people want to believe if it doesnt involve a ball and a team its not a real sport.

and some people believe if there is no penis its not real sex.

When really both the word "sport" and "sex" are completely defined by the user and people need to piss on tradition and respect our constantly changing society and culture.

Well put Madeye.

Ok iam a bit biased on the sports end of this conversation, I train and compete daily in an underground alternative sport that most people without seeing an example of the act would just laugh at and discredit as not being a sport.

I dont want to get off topic, and well if your interested to know more pm me if you like.

so yeah for some reason hearing the idea of lesbian sex not really being sex kind of struck a nerve with me.

I think sex is sex just as making love is making love, regardless of it being homosexual or heterosexual...the rest is just semantics.

[QUOTE=madeye;169113]

so yeah for some reason hearing the idea of lesbian sex not really being sex kind of struck a nerve with me.[/QUOTE]

ok well you're clearly taking it the wrong way because I'm asking a truthful question. I just wanted to know if it's ACTUALLY sexual intercourse, because without the penis into vagina (which I thought made up the "intercourse" part) I don't see how it could be REAL SEX. And I don't need more long winded speeches about it feeling good anyways or whatever, so if someone could just answer that simple question for christ's sakes then I can move on.

IS IT ACTUALLY SEX? anyone with a solid unbiased opinion? dancing doc? come on pleeeeease!

The original definition of intercourse was penis into vagina sex.

Traditionally a man married a women and vise versa. Their sexuality aside thats what they did. and some would act out their alternative sexual desires out of wedlock.

Now that Same Sex relationships are much more accepted and practiced, its respectful to change the definition of sex/intercourse.

sex and or intercourse is just the physical way you show sexual affection to the partner your with. Its to the couples preference on how their intercourse is defined.

You gotta remember their are varrying degrees of what everybody likes sexually.

What you call foreplay someone else calls sex. What you call sex someone else calls foreplay.

And this argument does include males, i know of a person who is in a gay relationship and they dont do anal cause they dont like it. Just cause other gay couples have penetration and they dont doesnt take away from thier quality of sex life.

to you giving oral pleasure to a women is just foreplay, to others its alot more or alot less.

You cant help but notice while browsing this forum the varieties of sexual preferences. What i call cheating others call swinging. What one couple calls degrading another calls it sexy.

[QUOTE=madeye;169167]The original definition of intercourse was penis into vagina sex.

Traditionally a man married a women and vise versa. Their sexuality aside thats what they did. and some would act out their alternative sexual desires out of wedlock.

Now that Same Sex relationships are much more accepted and practiced, its respectful to change the definition of sex/intercourse.

sex and or intercourse is just the physical way you show sexual affection to the partner your with. Its to the couples preference on how their intercourse is defined.

You gotta remember their are varrying degrees of what everybody likes sexually.

What you call foreplay someone else calls sex. What you call sex someone else calls foreplay.

And this argument does include males, i know of a person who is in a gay relationship and they dont do anal cause they dont like it. Just cause other gay couples have penetration and they dont doesnt take away from thier quality of sex life.

to you giving oral pleasure to a women is just foreplay, to others its alot more or alot less.

You cant help but notice while browsing this forum the varieties of sexual preferences. What i call cheating others call swinging. What one couple calls degrading another calls it sexy.[/QUOTE]

FINALLY... thank you.

[QUOTE=madeye;169110]Well im not a fan of nascar, so i have never heard that reference before.

But i do see a strange relation between those two arguments.

Alot of people want to believe if it doesnt involve a ball and a team its not a real sport.

and some people believe if there is no penis its not real sex.

When really both the word "sport" and "sex" are completely defined by the user and people need to piss on tradition and respect our constantly changing society and culture.[/QUOTE]

Sorry if I offended. That was meant in a lighthearted way. For what it's worth, I'm more into road raceing. Nascar has become the WWF of motorsports to me.
Also sorry for getting off topic. I think you did a good job of answering the question.

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