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Its it me or her

My wife of 20 years has always liked to watch me masterbate. She usually will rub herself to an organism at about the same time I cum and then she just goes crazy. Well the other night she and her g/f had been out at a shower and had a good bit of wine to drink and they were laughing and giggling when they got home. They started teasing me about doing this and could they both watch. I was embarressed my wife had told someone and also that they wanted to watch together.

At first I laughed and denied it then I just refused. This really made my wife mad and she said that I had embarressed her friend.

So whose right here???

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If everyone's happy then that's great. Congratulations and I wish you all the best of luck in the future.

Cheers.

What an incrediable Friday night! I think it will be too long to do in one reply so I will break it down so as not to bore everyone.

Just so you know we are not just some hicks from Texas, Susie is an RN and I am a VP for a software company. I don't know why that may be important, but it may.

Kelli came over about 6:00 and I made drinks and started the grill for dinner. Susie invited her to come to the hot tub while I prepared dinner. I think Susie was just a little surprised also because she had a bathing suit on under her shorts and when she walked over to the tub, Kelli simply removed her shorts and was nude...

I was watching from the grill and nearly dropped my fork..well Susie kinda took the cue and took off her suit and they sat in the tub sipping the drinks. They are different women where Susie is blonde and trimmed with smallish tits and Kelli is dark haired and bushy with large breast.

When the steaks were done both got out of the pool and and wrapped a towel around themselves and we had dinner although I had a hard on the whole time.

After dinner we all moved to the hot tub and started to play footies. I could tell that Susie was horny because she was kissing and stroking me. Kelli was rubbing Susie's back and butt and herself.

I asked Susie to kiss Kelli and with some reluctance and giggling they kinda brushed each other on the lips. I was now standing tall and asked Kelli could I rub her pussy..she took my hand and pushed a finger right into it...Susie was kinda smiling and watching very closely.

I will finish this on another reply...its just too long.

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Good for you both!

I, for one, would love to see the thread continue with "the rest of the story."

All advice boards tend to be problem based and, I think, sometimes we (forum regulars) over-react to the simple little situations that crop up in life. It seems to me that you not only have a wonderful wife, you also have a wonderful, growing relationship.

Please post more... ironically there's another thread started by someone who's lost interest after 3 months. You're still excited after 20 years. We could all learn from you and Susie!

Again, thanks for all the good advice. I showed my wife the thread and we discussed this evening and she agrees that a little too much wine and being frisky made her much more aggressive.

However, I am inticed by the aspect of being with both women. We have decided to invite Kelli over this weekend for a steak and some good wine. If the mood is right and we are all confortable then we can explore the possibilities.

I don't want to continue to bore the group with my personal events, so if you want to know how it all comes together, shoot me an email and I will reply.

Susie (the wife) loves reading this board and thinks that the suggestions are all on target. She agrees that she is very adventerous and loves the idea of exhibitionism which has taken me some time to catch up. But, to me, its all worth it. I have enjoyed this woman for 20 years and the excitement is still there.

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I believe that the two of you, perhaps with a moderator or counselor, should have a good long talk. I will not side with either of you but I do notice that she seems to be a bit more sexually adventurous than you. The potential for problems arises in the future when she may want more adventure and goes looking for it.

In your shoes, I doubt that I would have been comfortable masturbating for another woman. I do not even know if I could have gotten it up (Not a problem for me as I have not got one). In your wife's slightly inebriated mind, it may have seemed a harmless way to get you loosened up. Allowed to fester, that difference could cause problems in both heads.

I'm glad to see your last reply! By the time I got to this thread the circle was complete... had it not been, I'd have suggested we not nail this dear woman to the cross.

It seemed to me we only had an incident. She was "loosened up" from the drinking and commited what might be considered an error in judgement. (No one ever commits an error in judgement after drinking too much, right?)

Interesting, in putting myself in your shoes, I'd have probably also refused (it might have been difficult LOL). But I'd also (as it appears you have) discuss it thoroughly when sober so I'd know what I should do if it happens again. While I can't say I've been in exactly the same situation, I have been with people who've been drinking and suggested things I doubted they ever would sober. Maybe it's my "protective" nature, but I've always considered it important to know that conscious decisions are being made. In that regard, I do NOT think you over-reacted.

I also think you are married to a wonderful woman.

No harm, no foul. Now work on your exhibitionist tendencies. LOL

If the situation was the other ways round, if you where a women telling us that her husband wanted you to masturbate in front of him and his mate, without any discussion, we would be rightly horrified.  
There is nothing wrong with experimenting and exploring the kinky side of things but it should be safe, sane and CONSENSUAL, it also involves some planning too.  You absolutely should not feel bad about refusing and it was stupid on her part not to discuss it first.  Alcohol is not excuse I’m afraid seeing as you CHOOSE to put in into your body…it is not some uncontrollable temporary insanity or something, you have chosen to get to that state.

Having said that if you fancy the idea now there is nothing wrong with discussing it together and exploring it.  But I hope that your wife realises that she was wrong to just spring it on you and EXPECT you to tow the line without any discussion. Your a human being with your own feelings, not a remote control plaything.  I hope she will not to do it again.

I received a lot of great replys and now I am beginning to think I may have painted my wife as a bad person here for springing this on me. We have been married 20 great years and its her impulsive attitude and risky sexual playfulness that has made it great.

Don't get the wrong impression, she is a wonderful person. I was really trying to get a handle on the situation as to wheather I had over reacted to the situation. It appears you guys are with me on this that I did not.

However, that said, I would never want her to stop coming up with ideas that keeps the relationship spicy. We have two grown children and since the last one left home, she is free to do the things she did early in our marriage. I guess its her voyuerist attitude that overcomes her from time to time and I just need to be more sympathic to her.

Anyway thanks for the responses.

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Yeah her drinking probably made her feel bold and naughty enough to ask you. She should have taken you aside and discussed it with you first. You might want to discuss what is acceptable behavior to you if you haven't already.

Do you regret not playing for the ladies at all? Could have turned into a hot night if that has ever been one of your fantasies.  

Thanks for the response, this does make me feel like I have the high ground. She has made suggestions before about a 3way, but usually just joking around. She is very active and likes having sex in dangerous places, plane, resturants, elevators (you get the picture).

Anyway she said she was sorry and just kinda acted on impulse and was sorry that I took it the wrong way. She did say she thought it would be a blast for me to masterbate with her and a friend. Appartently her friend likes to watch also, but her husband refuses, says its embarressing.

I don't mind I guess if it makes her happy. We are both into pleasing each other and sharing fantasys, so I don't want to sound too confused here. But I appreciate the responses and if anyone has had the same issue it would be good to know.

Well, without knowing your past history, I'd have to say that she was way out of line. I'm not sure for necessarily telling her friend about your activities (some women do talk about those kinds of things with their friends, I personally wouldn't, but that's just me) I do think she was way out of line for bringing home a friend expecting you to masturbate in front of her. I don't believe she showed any respect for you or your relationship. Has this ever happened in the past? Or was this something that just happened out of the blue?

You shouldn't feel like you have to do anything you aren't comfortable doing.
Has your wife ever seemed like the type who would be into 3-somes? or at least other people watching?
Its hard to say since she was a little tipsy. Some say alcohol just lets us do what we really WANT to do, but just didn't have the nerve, lol.
Also, the next morning she could have woke up and been freaked out by what happened if you had went along with it.
Is your wife still acting mad at you? have either of you brought it up? does she remember?

Sorry for the delay. I will finish the story quickly.

Susie and I locked into a long imbrace of kissing and Kelli, continued to stroking me alternatively fast and slow. She was also pinching Susie's nipples at the same time. There was just too much excitement in me and I exploded way too soon. I would love to say I was able to hold off for a long time, but I was just too excited and the stroking by Kelli, and the energy of the moment overwelmed me.

We got out of the tub and went to the bedroom to recover (really for me to recover). I again asked Susie and Kelli to kiss and make out but (probably Susie more than Kelli) was relcutant to get into it very heavy. I used Susie's dildo to please both women and Susie finally started to warm more to Kelli to the point of sucking her nipples and fingering her. What a turn on this was for me.

I started to masterbate just watching them and this caused them to get into it even more. Kelli was fingering Susie and licking her fingers and then having Susie to do the same. They began to rub their juices on my dick and and took turns stroking and sucking me.

Kelli then used her feet (I love women who take care of their feet with pedicures) to continue masterbating me. Susie watched as Kelli was doing this and fingered herself. I exploded all over Kelli's feet and Susie rubbed her small breast in it and Kelli licked them off.

There was more later that night but it pretty much involved the same things.

I am now grateful that Susie made the suggestion last week and I think I was stupid to have been embarressed.

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