Vaginitis, urethritis, thrush, yeast. Hurts, itches, smells, runs. Welcome to womanhood. Each of us will have the discomfort of this family of maladies – some more than others and probably half of us have the required organisms in us at any moment. The symptoms are so similar and discomfort so great that we have difficulty differentiating among them. A secret: We doctors do, too. And to make things worse, some of the symptoms are similar to early symptoms of various bacterial STD’s. Let’s try to make some sense out of ourselves.
The entire pudenda is a perfect habitat for all sorts of little trouble-makers – warm, damp, all enclosed in very sensitive tissues and very near the source of some nasty bacteria. Urethritis is probably the easiest to isolate. It is an infection, usually bacterial, of the small tube (urethra) through which the bladder empties itself. The opening of the urethra is just in front of the vaginal opening. Usually about half way between the clitoris and vaginal entrance and enclosed within the labia. The cause is usually bacteria migrating from the anus and entering the urethra from the “outside.” In sufficient numbers, they cause an infection or severe irritation of the urethra itself. Untreated, they proceed on up to the bladder and cause cystitis. “It burns when I pee.” Is the most telling symptom but because of the way urine leaves our bodies we cannot always be certain that the burning is in the urethra. In the male, there is no question but our stream is impeded by the lips and may be spreading for an inch or so on either side of the urethral opening and it may be our lips that are burning.
Urethritis yields strong smelling urine. Pee in a cup and smell it. This cannot rule out urethritis but a strong foul smell certainly is an indicator of what is there. Urethritis must be treated with antibiotics and you will need a diagnosis and prescription from a doctor. Urethritis is not caused by, but is irritated by, sex. The penis moving in and out is pressing the urethra right behind the vaginal wall. During treatment of either partner for urethritis, a condom is recommended and the antibiotic must be taken completely to the end of the prescription. The symptoms may disappear while there is still infection remaining. If this happens, the recurrent infection will have bacteria resistant to the original treatment.
Vaginitis, yeast and thrush are rather imprecise terms. The infection is either bacterial or caused by yeast spores of many types. The most common are candida (often called thrush) which is present in many of us all the time and which is also commonly found in the human mouth. Yes, oral sex is a source of thrush. No need to pass up those delights unless you are chronically infected. Then, it is a good idea to lay off cunnilingus for a while and see if things improve. With vaginitis, there is usually a thick discharge that is strong smelling. It will usually not cause strong smelling urine. The various fungi (yeasts, thrush) are usually held in balance. The vagina is a very delicately balanced ecosystem. The good bugs keep the bad bugs in check. Being placed on oral antibiotics can upset this balance and result in a thrush infection. Yes, treatment of urethritis can cause vaginitis! Not common but it does happen. Doctors will often treat this empirically – that is they will make a good guess and if that does not work, try something else. This is simply because there are so many organisms that could be causing the problem, so we go after the most common and most easily treated first. You are doing the same thing when you use over-the-counter treatments for yourself. The doctor will, however, run some tests to eliminate the terrible stuff – mostly STD’s – whether or not that is what you are told.
Many women cause themselves trouble with douching. And the adverts about “feeling fresh” do not help. Douching upsets the ecosystem and can actually cause yeast to get out of control And you certainly do not want to douche before seeing the doctor – you will be removing exactly what needs to be found. In my view, the only use for douching comes when you have too many dates too close together!
Vaginitis can also be bacterial in origin. Again enterobacteria (they belong in the intestine) can migrate along the perfect path from the anus right into the vagina. Anal sex, even with care, can draw many of these bacteria right onto that path.
When the entire issue of “it itches down there” is studied it is amazing that not more of us are infected at any time. This is a testament to hygiene and most women in the modern world are pretty careful with this. I love bidets and regret their disappearance from most of the world. If I shower at night, the bidet in the morning; or the opposite, but at least twice a day my bottom is thoroughly cleansed.
It seems that no one is reading the lead post in this thread but still raising questions on the forums. So let us expand this a bit into an anatomy lesson. Girls, take your pants off, sit on a towel and get a hand mirror. Guys you can follow along on a downloaded diagram of the female genitals if you do not have a friend available to let you look her over.
First, place your right index finger on your pubic bone. It is the solid center of your mound and is located where the pubic hair from the left and right overlaps. Then place your left index finger on your tail bone or coccyx. It is the end of your spine on the back of your pelvis right at the cleft in your butt. It is actually your tail left over from the days when we hominids had tails for practical purposes. We will be describing what lies along that about 10cm line between your index fingers and about a cm (maximum) on either side; what is there, what it does and how it relates to sexual health.
Just below your right index finger is your clitoris under a hood. The clitoris is the center of sexual arousal and satisfaction and it becomes quite erect when excited. The underside of the hood secretes a lubrication substance that allows it to move smoothly over the clitoris. The hood also provides a place for various things to accumulate forming smegma – a mixture of the various secretions along this female track plus skin cells. This is a white cheesy substance that can smell terribly or have nearly no smell. In great accumulation, it can irritate the clitoris and cause discomfort.
Next in progression is the entrance of the urethra. Primarily, this is the exit point for urine from your bladder. On either side of the urethra are the ducts for para-urethral glands known as Skene’s Glands. They are analogous to the prostate in men and recently have been discovered to, in some women, have ducts into the internal urethra itself. They have no known purpose but are believed by many to account for female ejaculation. They drain something into the pudenda.
Next, as we progress is the vaginal entroitus – the entrance to our female innards. The vagina is constantly draining – sometimes lots and sometimes just enough to leave a smell on your panties at the end of the day. Every time you have a romantic thought, secretions appear on your vaginal walls and this lubrication is what is draining. Additionally, this is where the menstrual fluid and other specifically female drainage occurs. This would include the residue from the mucous plug of the cervix (sometimes intact) emerging to put a spot on your pants sometime about the middle of your cycle and once in a great while a tiny egg may be visible. If the egg had been fertilized it would have implanted itself in your uterus to develop into a baby. Each side of the vaginal entrance are other ducts from the Glands of Bartholin. These secrete a thick, waxy substance that used to be thought of a lubrication. It is too thick and there is not enough for lubricating. We now think these glands are other leftovers from evolution and the substance they secrete was a smelly attractant for males when we were fertile.
We then cross the little isthmus of skin known as the perineum which leads to the anus. The anus passes billions of bacteria each day that need to stay out of the little nooks and crannies that are part of the female anatomy.
The entire tract should be, in a non-parous woman, a light and pretty pink. As we age or have children, much of this will darken in colour to a light brown. Nothing in your girl parts should ever be a bright, angry red.
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So, what are the potential problems and their indicators? The common infections are either bacterial or fungal. First, urethritis results from bacteria getting into your urethra in sufficient numbers to colonize and irritate the lining of the urethra. It burns when you pee and there is often a frequent urge to pee with little coming out. Sometimes, the area immediately around the urethra will be irritated and bright red. SEX DOES NOT CAUSE URETHRITIS! It does irritate the urethral opening and make it seem worse but the cause is the bacteria that have most likely migrated from your anus. Your urine will have a particularly foul smell. We all know what our urine usually smells like, so this is your baseline. Urethritis does require prescription anti-biotics and an appointment will be required.
Bacterial vaginitus is also caused by bacteria. The first indication is a foul smell. I am not talking about a strong “female odour,” but a truly foul smell. At the end of each day or after exercise, we all have a strong female odor and we all recognize this. The bacterial infection gives a different odour that is very characteristic. Fungal vaginitis (thrush, yeast) can also smell bad but not as strong or characteristic as the bacterial. Baterial vaginitis can be treated topically, with creams, or, sometimes, with oral medication as well. Both meds need a prescription and doctor’s visit.
Yeast infections can be treated with over the counter potions usually next to the feminine hygiene products. The first indicators of these infections are itching and burning of the area around the entrance to the vagina. It also exists in the vagina but you cannot feel that because there are no nerve endings in the vagina. Treatment must be internal as well as external but will be a topical application – either OTC or, in worse cases, by prescription. The inner lips will be angry and red – this extends internally when examined with a speculum.
An interesting side bar on yeast infection is that the yeast grows well in the human mouth. One patient had a yeast infection which would recur a few weeks after each “cure.” I finally suggested that her husband use a particular mouthwash twice a day. She turned beet red, which I ignored. At her next annual exam she had had no recurrence and we did not talk about that.
We women have several parts that secrete nutrient filled fluids and a major source of bacteria all located along the few square centimeter area described. Urine and semen are both nutrient rich for bacteria. So your natural urine and your partners semen serve to support and encourage bacteria to set up housekeeping. The result is urethritis or vaginitits.
Women make their vaginitis worse through douching. The vagina, indeed the entire pudenda, is a very delicately balanced ecosystem. There is a balance between the good and the bad. Douching removes all the bacteria and fungus – good and bad. If you douche to remove the smell, for instance, you may be successful in the short term but a day or so later, the infection is worse than in the beginning. The only reason I can think of for douching is that you have too many dates too close together! Then, do not use the commercial douches that have perfumes, dyes and unknown stuff. Mix one part white vinegar to two parts tepid water and flush the one guy out before the next. Better he taste vinegar (he won’t) than your earlier date (he will).
The lips and area described can sometimes become irritated because of an accumulation of smegma. It irritates the clitoris and if not cleansed well can irritate the rest of your specifically female parts.
Bottom line (unintended but good pun) is to keep clean. At least twice a day the area described should be thoroughly cleansed with mild soap. Sera recommends Ivory. OK, I recommend clear liquid soap – preferably not anti-bacterial. The clear soap (shampoo is fine) rinses more easily and avoids the irritation from the soap. The antiseptic or anti-bacterial soap adds some chemicals and does no better at cleansing. Wash well; rinse well. I like bidets but they are not generally available in N. America and are less common than they once were in Europe. In the shower is a natural; washing at a sink makes rinsing more difficult.
If your tissues are an angry red, you smell really bad or it burns and itches see, the doctor and do not cleanse more than a surface wash. The doctor needs a collection of the stuff that is irritating you to determine how to get rid of it. Never douche before a doctor’s appointment. I often diagnose by smell as much culture.
yeah I'm having this kind of problem right now, I'm going to see the doctor tomarrow.
I also havn't had my period since October and my periods have never been normal.
I made a topic on that already in here somewhere.
But I'm glad you explained. My nurse also said Baking Soda and taking a bubble bath may help a little.
boy it smells down there too. Earlier today it started burning and itching really bad.
If you have itching & burning...no "bubble baths"...just see the doc. Baking soda???? NO. Just see the doc...don't screw up the result through changing acidity & PH...Are you certain this was a RN not a secretary????
well I went to the doctors and decided not to take a bath or baking soda because basically I thought the baking soda was a little weird.
I got Yeast Infection
and please don't be too hard on me it makes me nervous.
but I'm doing what the doctor told me and I will be fine.
[quote=KMB;202059]well I went to the doctors and decided not to take a bath or baking soda because basically I thought the baking soda was a little weird.
I got Yeast Infection
and please don't be too hard on me it makes me nervous.
but I'm doing what the doctor told me and I will be fine.[/quote]
Not being hard on you! I found that to be the strangest thing any office would tell a patient! Glad to hear the outcome...last thing you needed was some bacterial infection too!
ok,
yeah I was thinking Baking soda sounds kind of weird to give someone like that.
My school nurse doesn't know a lot about stuff like I have right now obviously.
I was wondering (I did read the initial posts :D)
I've had discharge similar to a yeast infection (cheese like), and my partner says I taste mildly sour. The thought of a yeast infection hadn't crossed my mind as I had NO irritation at all. I went to my soctor to get it checked, and I apparently don't have a yeast infection at all! I was tested for all sorts of things that day, but came back negative for everything. I'm a very clean person, and am not sure what this could be.
What could cause this type of discharge along with a sour taste aside from an infection of some sort?
What we call discharge is often simply a collection of the dead skin and various fluids naturally produced in the area. The best solution, with no problems found by the doctor, is simply a good cleansing before anyone gets near us down there.
ok so last night, my inside lips (my minds gone blank and cant think what theyre called ((inner labia is it??)),) have been itchy and dry, so i have been rubbing them with my nikkers quite roughly, and then when my boy friend touched me there that night it REALLY stung!! like really hurt, what is this?
i know its not an STI or anything as i have been checked..
so i really have no idea what it is, can anyone shed a little lighton the situation?
there is no discharge or blood or anything
The nylon of your knickers and using that to scratch has left you a bit raw at a micro level. Even the oil on his fingers would burn.
You most likely have a low grade vaginitis. Yeast is more common. If you are not familiar with these issues, see your doctor; if, as so many women, you have experienced this before purchase the over the counter cream for yeast and follow the directions. If it does not go away, see your doctor for the bacterial infection.
Thanks Brandye :) I think i will go to the chemist and get the cream, although ive not had this before i think its definitly worth ago before i go to the doctors :) x
I have been to the doctor because sex burns for me. Its like I have the worst burning feeling inside me. She did test for yeast, stds and all negative. She said I should try lube.
I just took Monistat 1 Day treatment last night an i think the lil ovule thingy fell out :/ an about more than half was gone there wasnt tht much left so i decided not to try to put it bck in..
was that a horrible decision that i did or was that ok??
i dont itch or burn anymore so idk
lucjy,
Star with decent and understandable writing. It sounds like you did fine; follow the instructions.
Brandye, you stated earlier that you instructed one patient to buy a particular mouthwash for her partner, what mouthwash would that be? I love having oral sex with my partner but it seems I get a yeast infections way too frequently. I am almost to the point at giving up oral sex bc this seems to be the problem. WHat should i do?
Any dentist can recommend a mouthwash that is effective against all stuff. Most of the popular brands on the shoppe shelves are not too effective. The local dentist recommends BreathRx. I use it, as well, based on that recommendation.
Have your partner try that or talk to his own dentist.
LOL! yeah,, a good cleaning, and caring dfinately.
for me as a man, oral giving is the intimate of imtimates and lovel,,, but let ourwself go, and it will me some time before we return.
hahaha
can't believe I posted in this thread...
it is a sexy one though... women are lovely!
Can a yeast infection alter the way you get "wet"? I'm normally very quick to get thoroughly wet, but lately have barely been able to at all. I'm treating a yeast infection, but was curious.
Yes, yeast can affect your normal lubrication. The normal treatments for yeast can also reduce your own lube.
I'm assuming those effects are as temporary as the infection/treatment?
Yes, you will return to normal!
yay! That just made me VERY happy. I was worried for a min that I'd have to start buying lubes!
I havent really had an issue with burning and itching EXCEPT for when my partner tried 2 solve the pain issue with lubrication. That turned out bad. It felt weird then when it touched me it started to burn and he tried 2 use it but it felt like my inside was burning and decaying away which was WEIRD. Never again will i use lube but I was wondering, what could of caused the burning? Is it just me?
If you were having sex while dry, you would have been rubbed raw. Adding anything to raw skin will hurt. The problem seems to be that you needed to use lube SOONER rather than when you did.
ANY of the lubes other than the old standby water-based lubes will cause a reaction in some women. If you use the fancy flavored or aromatic or warming lubes, you are running a (slight) risk of reaction.
I don't think it's any of the causes you went into such detail with here? I say this because it occurs towards the end of my period (when the flow is lighter/browner) and a couple days after I stop. During that time I hate going to the bathroom because what comes out burns pretty badly.
Not on the pill or any other meds.
With a thirteen month break in this thread and your not having posted in it previously, your question, as written, makes little sense. If it burns whilst urinating, there is either an infection internally or a raw spot externally.
sorry, let me try to clarify. The only time it burns to urinate is towards the end of my period, and the burning is more external... could it simply be that my vulva is more sensitive during that time? hope this is clearer.
OK, it is still either an infection (fungal or bacterial) or a small contusion of some sort. You may have a very low level infection that thrives on menstrual juices or you are abrading yourself some way. If it is bacterial, there will be a foul odor; if fungal, just irritation. During your next period, apply EXTERNALLY some over the counter treatment and see if the symptoms still appear. If they do, see your doctor; if not, then, in mid-cycle, do internal treatment with the same.
It is also possible that you are abrading yourself with the edge of a pad or, even, a tampon string if it is always in the same position. From your description it could be a UTI that will require a prescription oral med to clear up.
Consult with doctor It may be allergy....
Smith ALan
[QUOTE=smithalan00;269220]Consult with doctor It may be allergy....
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She did consult with a doctor in the reply just above yours.
I've noticed around the middle of the month (I dont know what time this is on my cycle, I dont really know how that works) I have a lot of a thicker whitish clear secretion that kinda smells bad, like you mentioned earlier. What is the best way to avoid this? And what is the proper way to clean the inside. You said douching is bad and I have heard this alot so I don't, but when I take a shower I just use my finger and water to clean the inside the best I can and soap and water on the outside, is this bad?
others have more knowledge than I do on this subject, but I wanted to post this informative link for your question. - Vaginal Discharge, What is Normal You have to wear a lot of warm clothes for work, right? this may be a problem because the vagina may be in a hot and sweaty environment from the layers you wear. the smell may be similar to the armpit when sweat and bacteria mix. does your man cum inside you? i have heard medical professionals say that semen and/or sperm change the pH level of the vagina, and it smells fishy for a day or two.
i don't have any info on how to clean but the color of your vaginal discharge is normal from what i have learned. i will leave it up to more knowledgeable people to give you a more definitive answer.
Talk with a doctor, get some over the counter vagenal cream. Eat yogurt it will help with infection to clear it up. But other then that is really all you can do.
Epic, the consistency of discharge we find at the entrance changes throughout the natural cycle, along with the changing hormones. The smell can also be "different". I smell very sweet around ovulation for example. But the smell should not be "bad". Other than these internal factors, external factors such as receiving semen, sports, swimming, etc could all influence it.
Are you on hormonal BC? I think I've read that somewhere... In that case; there technically is no cycle. There is a steady level of hormones that is interrupted every once in a while to cause a bleed. So no changing consistency of discharge due to the internal factor of changing hormones.
I'd advice every woman; once the smell gets "bad" without any probable cause and it lingers, just visit a doctor to check for infection.
[QUOTE=Brandye;267502]It is also possible that you are abrading yourself with the edge of a pad or, even, a tampon string if it is always in the same position.[/QUOTE]
It's a bit late for the original poster, but for any that read this; there are tampons without a thread, called [url=http://www.beppy.com//index?l=4]Beppy Wet soft tampons. I think they're awesome! :) Don't feel a thing while wearing. Very gentle and soft material, not the stiff kind that 'unfolds' while putting it in, so easy to put in. To get it out; you just need to be able to reach back to get the little loop, as it has no cord. Usually you place it close to your cervix, although it also works perfectly when it's not so close to your cervix. It shapes to your body! A pity that it is more expensive than regular ones... Takes way more fluid than a maxi-tampon, so that tends to compensate ;) It is worth my money having a happy period! :)
You are all right I work in a freezer and wear thicker clothes. I do tend to sweat a lot at work, but I take a shower after work everyday. Yes, he cums in me and yes I'm on bc pills. It doesn't smell really bad, its just a different smell. I was just curious.
So, I'm in the middle of my holliday and have this typical itch and burn trouble :( And I would like some advice.
Symptoms: While happily enjoying the sights, the day before yesterday there was some irritation between my labia minora due to -don't ask me how- a tiny little cut. Yesterday evening a terrible itching (enough to wake me up throughout at night) and swelling of the clitoral hood and labia minora. And I mean really; swollen; twice of what they are even when I'm sexually aroused:o No weird discharge. No bad smell. Not even red at that moment. No sexual activity any time prior. In the morning it was more red, also on the labia majora that had also become swollen. So I went to the pharmacist. Apparently these seem symptoms of a funghi located between the labia (not as much the vagina; there are no symptoms at the entrance). Off course my question to you is; does it seem like that to you as well?
Medication The pharmacist couldn't give me the Miconazole cream I wanted, because I had to buy them together with insertable tablets. And those tablets she couldn't sell, because they needed to be prescribed. I love buraucraty! :mad: Now I have Canesten 1% which she assured me was suitable for the vulva. After some digging around the internet (no english instructions or any other language I can read in the package) seems that I need to apply it 2-3 times a day for at least 3 days. Does that seem about right? And can anyone tell me whether I can/should use it internally as well?
I've used the cream twice by now. It does relieve the itch for a few hours. It doesn't relieve the swelling so far (but that would have been really fast). There is now getting a hint of irritation at te entrance of my vagina; could be symptom, could also be because I smeared it all over the area on the outside (slight irritation appears to be side-effect).
A bit of background; I have been having skin-troubles and rashes, in other area's than genital, for the past few weeks due to a prior illness. Aparently my immunesystem took a blow and now isn't able to handle the regular stuff. So I do have another cream on me. Prior to me hollidays I had a stronger funghicream prescribed for my feet, asthe other creams had failed;ketoconazol 20mg. Which seems to work, finally! But I don't think it's safe for other usage than feet :confused: Hence why I went to get advice and bought the other cream.
At mid-cycle (roughly day 14 after your period begins) we all tend to produce more lubrication and discharge the mucous plug that has been in out cervical os since the end of the period. This is part of our bodies preparing to accept fertilization. Most women do have a higher interest in sex mid-cycle than at other times.
If there is no particularly offensive smell, this is normal body functioning. Some of us produce more and some less of any of these secretions. All body fluids develop a "smell" when exposed to air. Hygiene is the key. Two good cleansings a day, especially with semen in you as well, will likely control this. I have followed this regimen my whole life with some touching up as required.
If itching or burning or a foul aroma begin, then find out what it is. What you describe sounds like you are simply a woman.
Brandye, was that a reply to my post? I'm very confused now... :confused:
From reading you description RR and brandye's post i would make an educated guess and say that you have a case of jock-itch/athlete's foot infection. of course this fungus develops in dark and damp areas. i have gotten a little cut between my 4th and 5th toe before just like you describe you have on your labia. if my guess is correct then just wash the area like brandye said and apply the medication.
Sorry for the confusion. That was for epic.
Big, that would be about it, except for by my experience; it's not half as worse to have on your feet as it is on such delicate and sensitive area packed with nerve-endings ;) Apply medication I get and so far it does appear to work.
I just am not sure how many times a day.
I don't know for how long, esp after symptoms disappear.
And have no clue on wether this particular cream is advisable to use on the inside as well.
Normally I'd be at the doc's office. Or googling and downloading, but I can only do little with a tablet and a slow and instable wifi... I've partially translated the instructions from the package by now, but they don't seem to be written for genital infection. Could you enlighten me, Brandye? I'd very much appreciate it.
Canesten is a standard, and older, anti-fungal treatment used for women or other fungal infections.. Use two or three times a day and it will do no harm inside or out. It is available various places with various names. Nothing really differentiates it from any other anti-fungal, over the counter on the shelf.
This may be a silly question but have you already used google translate? That seems like your best tool in this situation.
Funny story; it's back :( And it turns out the cause is an allergy.
If there ever was a fungal, bacterial or whatever infection, there's nothing to be seen of it now. My physician guesses there never has been. The Canesten probably only helped with the itching. The other rashes as mentionned, now turn out to be related to it. The response tends to become explosive by now; my face and hands swell up like crazy, red swollen spots of skin everywhere, my nose gets stuffed and my breathing heavy. I can tell you; not a fun way to wake up :rolleyes: This happened the other night and this night. I took a shower and an antihistamine; almost all symptoms disappeared within an hour. The swelling of the genital area goes down significantly, as does my stuffed nose, but does not disappear. My physician guesses it will after a while on these meds. The delicate mucous-tissue is probably very irritated and responses with an aftermath.
So I'll be on antihistamines for some time now and after that: every time the symptoms return again. In the meanwhile: trying to locate the product or ingredient that causes it. Which can be anything I wear, eat, use to wash my clothes or myself with, etc. I've had similar responses a few years back; the cause was never confirmed, probably pollen, and my arms are still fluffy and marked with striae because of it. The antihistamine has the side-effect to make me feel dizzy and without appetite, which I'm going to have to get used to for some time. O hell, I wasn't eating much anyways, because my digestive system is messy :(
Although I'm happy to have found it is an allergy and that there's a better way to fight off the symptoms than the cream, I'm feeling... I can't find the proper word in English. In Dutch we would say; without courage. It means that you're not without hope or really depressed, but more like tired and without energy. I know things could be worse, but this is just another thing in my body that doesn't function appropriately. I've barely healed from one thing, then there's the next. Perhaps "sick of it" would be appropriate term ;)
Ok, please forget about that last paragraph. That's just some pathetic whining! ;)
I wanted to delete it, shortly after typing. Call it the product of a moment of weakness :rolleyes:
But apparently my account forbids me to edit my posts at the moment (the good fellows in the control room are trying to fix this :)).
[QUOTE=RedRoses;273351]Ok, please forget about that last paragraph. That's just some pathetic whining! ;)
I wanted to delete it, shortly after typing. Call it the product of a moment of weakness :rolleyes:
But apparently my account forbids me to edit my posts at the moment (the good fellows in the control room are trying to fix this :)).[/QUOTE]
How about:
- Dejected
- Crestfallen
- Disheartened
And don't worry, you're not whining. When I read your posts I just think "poor lady, it's just one thing after another."
/hugs-from-a-stranger :)
You're quite welcome. I'm a very lovey type person, so toss in an electric fingers through your hair for good measure. ;)
Disheartened, that I'd find proper translation.
My electronic dictionary had suggested "despondent". But based on the word's description -"feeling or showing extreme discouragement, dejection and/or depression"- I figured that would be too strong. Whereas for disheartened I find: "made less hopeful or enthusiastic" or "to shake the courage"; that seems fitting.
And thank you. You wouldn't know how right the timing is for me to receive that digital hug :) I'm feeling physically awful this evening.
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