Legalize Gay Marriage (u.s.a)

[dannyk71]

The notion of not allowing gays/lesbians to marry or to even be legally recognized couples is solely based in religion. Why is it that the gov't is being allowed to refuse this group of people their RIGHT to THEIR pusuit of happyness! Is it not religious persecution to disallow their unions, going against one of the very beliefs our country was founded!! It is unbelievable that the religious zealots have been able to manipulate the system. I do know, and am related to, self proclaimed gays/lesbians and that their unions would not make a difference in my pursuit of my own happyness. I live here(U.S.A.) because I can practice my own beliefs, my way. WHY CAN'T THEY!!! We have no right to tell them they can't because our GOD says it isn't right. Their lifstyle is a far cry from threatening our national security. I know of a lot of failed str8 marriages, and str8 people who abuse their children. If the self proclaimed followers of GOD want to do as HE says, then why aren't their women at home rearing the kids instead of creating all of these criminalistic drug users!!

[littlechicky]

Do more research, and spell correctly to be taken seriously.

[sera300]

Danny:

There is a link to a thread from a few months ago regarding the inequity in Civil Liberties which many gay couples are faced with, this link also contains a debate over marriage:

Why is being gay bad? (Part II)

[DVDBear]

Originally Posted by littlechicky

Do more research, and spell correctly to be taken seriously.

A spell check would help, but "do more research"? He's stating an opinion (admittedly covered in another thread); you may disagree but there's nothing really inaccurate facts-wise.

[dannyk71]

Originally Posted by littlechicky

Do more research, and spell correctly to be taken seriously.

First, as far as spelling, I purposely misspelled "happyness",( reference movie title "Pursuit of Happyness" ) Any other misses are honest mistakes, for crying out loud, I'm not submitting an essay to a professor. Secondly, is there anyone out there that can point to somewhere other than religion that says personal choice of partner is wrong. Side track the topic all you want with accusations of illiteracy, it still remains we live in a country based on FREE WILL AND PURSUIT OF ONE'S OWN HAPPINESS! As long as your choices don't infringe on the rights of people around you, go for it! Its your life to do with what you pleeze. (that last word's for you chicky)

[littlechicky]

Danny, please get your FACTS str8( right back at ya). Everyone is entitled to their opinion, you included- as well as all the others that oppose gay marriage. You are completely generalizing, with little use of any factual or statistical information to get your point across. Not all straight marriages fail, not all straight parents beat their children, and not all gay relationships are good, and not all gay relationships raise uncriminalistic, moral, and drug free children either. You my friend have your opinion, and so do all the voters in our democracy that voted state by state on this issue last election. Each persons vote I'm sure wasn't solely based on fundmentalist Christian beliefs, because a great deal of our nation isn't Christian. WHO ever said that gay marriage was a threat to our National Security? I however don't care either way on the matter.

[dannyk71]

All my point is, not allowing gay marriage, unions or whatever u want to call it, is simply based on religious beliefs. I never said all straight people have failed relationships, I'm in a very successful one w/ my wife of 11 years, and our children our healthy and happy and un-abused. Gays are being unjustly denied rights because other people's beliefs dont agree with a lifestyle that does't come anywhere near infringing the rights of others. Its a shame we, as taxpayers, have to waste so much time and money on an issue that should be glaringly obvious. Its like trying to force vegetarians to eat animal products. Its their choice of lifestyle, their "happiness" that they are being denied, and our money being wasted trying to stop them. Oh, and that "national security" part, I just thought it sounded good. Before you know it, all the extreme conservatives will be calling gays and lesbians "sexual terrorists".lol

[DVDBear]

First up, thanks for your impassioned beliefs Danny. It's always great to hear this coming from our straight friends. I would quibble a bit with the "choice of lifestyle" phrase though . . . . it's a "choice" only in that you can choose to deny what you are and seriously diminish your quality of life. It's the same as saying "heterosexuality is a choice of lifestyle" . . . . nobody seems to look on it that way.

And your "national security" analogy wasn't off the mark, really . . . . perhaps as it relates to gay marriage, but not sexual orientation in general. Since Chicky is big on facts here's the link -

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/US/story?id=2274124

Anybody who doesn't think the U.S. goverment, and specifically this current adminstration isn't hostile to gays isn't doing much fact checking of their own.

[littlechicky]

good link

[sera300]

Hey, easy guys on us hyper-conservative Republicans! Just because we believe in small government, does not mean we align ourselves with the parties political agendas or beliefs! Hence, smaller government means less governmental intervention and more individual freedoms.