Legalize Gay Marriage (u.s.a)

[sera300]

Originally Posted by oberon

Thanks, Sera300.

Yes, human rights are a large part of it, but it is also a societal problem.

What's one of the first things that gets thrown at gay people- specifically the men- when someone wishes to demean the "gay lifestyle" (whatever the heck THAT is!)? "Oh, they are so promiscuous. They rarely have long-term relationships." While that is a not entirely true stereotype, there IS some (I stress "some") truth in it. Yet, these same folks would like to deny gay people the social means by which most people sustain a long-term relationship.

I can get very angry at the idea that society creates this problem and then uses the results to then bash gay people. I think it is amazing that there are many gay couples who do maintain long relationships in spite of the lack of social acceptance and convenience. I wonder how many straight couple would still be together if there weren't a system in place that makes it easy for them to do so??

Perhaps society should change it's view...perhaps all people who are single are going to be more sexually active! Do people believe that a gay person had more partners then a I have? Betcha we run pretty close.

[oberon]

Perhaps?? I'd say society should DEFINITELY change its' view. Homophobia is killing people. It needs to change and the quicker the better.

I won't get into a "I've had more partners" contest.... although I think I would probably do VERY well...

[tommy_tucker]

im all for gay marrige, if both chicks are hot!!! m i rite??


but really i dont care, let people do what they want. Religion isnt a big issus to the youth of today so whats wrong with it?

[Hommerun]

Not pick at this issue...but...I used to believe, as others here do, that gay marriage would never happen in the US in my lifetime. Now, I'm not so sure. In fact, I'm thinking it probably will. I believe in the need to allow young people, perhaps not yet born, to be able to grow up with hope and believe that they can pursue romance and marriage openly, and equally. It is so vital to instilling self esteem. One of the biggest killers of gay youth is low self esteem and isolation, leading to suicide. Whatever hope we can offer to generations yet to come, to live a more productive and less painful life is welcome in my view.

[Ducy]

Drugs are illegal cuz it impairs judgement making people dangerous.

Rape is illegal because you cause physical and mental damage to a person.

Murder is illegal because you kill someone.

What has a gay male or female done that is so wrong? Have they killed people, are they a danger to society, do they cause physical or mental harm upon their partner or somebody? Not that I know of. My uncle was gay. And as far as I know he was a great doctor, and cook. Never hurt a fly. So why not legalize it. I mean hey other countries allow it.




** what about lowering the age of consent in california? Disneyland considers a 12 year old an adult? So why doesnt california? lol

[DVDBear]

Really, when all the shouting dies down and the dust settles the only arguement that remains is the religious one. In every other way allowing gay marriage is a positive, both for the individuals and society. And I'm sorry, but a point of debate that ends with "because the Bible says it's wrong" does NOT belong in the law making process. Freedom of religion should not mean you impose your value system on others through the political process. I'm fully aware that it's legal and people who carry this religious belief can vote against gay marriage for whatever motivation they want to - religion, mean spiritedness, or because they're an ass. But on a logical basis it's wrong, pure and simple. Religious beliefs are based on faith, not fact and are not necessarily what's best for society. The U.S. would be a very "interesting" place if all that's pointed out in the Old Testament as "wrong" were put into law.

[Ducy]

Oh man we would all be in jail for having sex out of marriage.

[DVDBear]

Or put to death for a myriad of things listed in the Old Testament that we've probably done at one time or another. People also love to say the Ten Commandments are the basis for much of our legal system, but that's hogwash. I think only two are laws, killing and stealing ("false witness" could stretch to perjury I guess, so make that three). The rest are rules to be followed within the belief system of Christianity but they are NOT law, nor should they be. In fact, if they were there would be no freedom of religion, since belief in anything outside Christianity would probably fall under "false gods"

[sera300]

Religion and Civil Marriages do not have any effect on the other. It's merely a legally binding contract performed before a judge rather then a religious figure. Therefore, co-mingling the matters is wrong. I couldn't care less who my neighbor chooses to marry! It has no bearing on my life; I am Catholic and Republican....Do you think my gay neighbors care who I marry? NOPE!

[DVDBear]

Hey, I care who you marry, Sera! I just want to make sure the bum's good enough to marry you!