Gay Marriage

[oberon]

I'm interested in everyone's answer and the reasons behind them. *

I started this because I just had an interesting thought recently. *Well, interesting to me, anyway. *One of the main objections seems to be people who want to "protect" marriage by saying that it is only between a man and a woman. *They don't want the sanctity "perverted". *It just finally occurred me... I am certain that if I wish to marry, I CAN find a church willing to perform the ceremony. *I can already get married. *I just don't have legal recognition. * So those who wish to "protect" marriage have ALREADY lost. *It all comes down to denying human rights.

[girl12]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (oberon @ Oct. 28 2004,13:10)]I'm interested in everyone's answer and the reasons behind them. *

I started this because I just had an interesting thought recently. *Well, interesting to me, anyway. *One of the main objections seems to be people who want to "protect" marriage by saying that it is only between a man and a woman. *They don't want the sanctity "perverted". *It just finally occurred me... I am certain that if I wish to marry, I CAN find a church willing to perform the ceremony. *I can already get married. *I just don't have legal recognition. * So those who wish to "protect" marriage have ALREADY lost. *It all comes down to denying human rights.

heloooo!

lol here goes.....

gay marriage is just like straight marriage. (well u know wut i mean * )
gay marriage is between 2 people that love eachother! no one has ANY right to tell other people who to love...no one. or who to marry. if there is a gay couple it makes me sick to see people with signs saying "god hates fags" etc, because, first of all, isnt it just soooo empowering to know EXACTLY wut god thinks? i mean...if ur studying from the bible....do u know how many times that thing has been changed around? does god tell every 'good' christian...."i hate fags"? because if so....i understand that god is supposed to be loving to everyone in his/her "kingdom"? and hating a certain group of people just because they are attracted to the same sex is in no way compassionate or anything of that nature.
also....as i have said before...homophobia is just like racism and sexism....except it is against gay people. by saying that gay people cant get married...you are trying to take someones rights away. they have the right to get married...this is america, remember? liberty and justice FOR ALL!!! for all people....yes, even GAY people! gay people are people as well as straight and bi people....so tell me....why do u protest gay people being able to marry?

-mariah

[Ashes]

Well, I don't mind homosexuals marrying. I mean, it doesn't really bother me 'cause I'm not concerned.

Let people do what they want. Some just go "OMG they're gay AND THEY MARRIED !". I mean, so what ? That's not gonna change my life, it's their business.

I got no idea why homosexuals marrying should lessen the "sanctity of marriage" (as if there was any left, just think about those 5 cents weddings with some Elvis wannabe singing in a casino that's supposed to look like a church).

I mean, so it's "against nature" since they're same sex but it's just as much against nature not to obey your instincts.

So it all boils down to intolerance, something we seem to have in endless supply. Geez, get over it people.

[oberon]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Ashes @ Oct. 28 2004,20:33)]I mean, so it's "against nature" since they're same sex but it's just as much against nature not to obey your instincts.

I always like this argument when people condemn being gay. (Ashes, I know you weren't making that argument.) *It just shows ignorance. *Homosexuality can be found in many species. *From birds to mammals. *That kind of takes the air out of the "against nature" argument.

[vagabondprince]

i voted for "civil unions". I'm not sure what it is; I can't validate my argument with much, but there is still something in "the sanctity of marriage". If there is a church that is willing to marry a gay couple, so be it, but that doesn't make it a societal norm; i'm sure those churches are as radical as any movement you could find nowadays. Most church marriages are still between a man and a woman. That's just my take on it though. i'm young and don't know much about marriage anyway.

[girl12]

well just because gay marriage is out of the 'norm' doesnt mean it is questioning the sanctity of marriage.

it seems like saying that is saying that gay people will somehow do harm to wut people think of marriage.

[vagabondprince]

i'm saying gay marriage would decay the meaning and "sanctity" of marriage, i'm not saying it is outside of the norm. I'm saying the churches that would marry a gay couple are not your regular Methodist, Baptist or Catholic (or other established denomination) Church. there's a difference

[girl12]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (vagabondprince @ Nov. 01 2004,13:17)]i'm saying gay marriage would decay the meaning and "sanctity" of marriage, i'm not saying it is outside of the norm. I'm saying the churches that would marry a gay couple are not your regular Methodist, Baptist or Catholic (or other established denomination) Church. there's a difference

i was actually responding to the other person's post i think lol...im asleep....

but should it be that way? i thought people who go to church were supposed to be compassionate towards all!

[oberon]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (vagabondprince @ Nov. 01 2004,13:17)]i'm saying gay marriage would decay the meaning and "sanctity" of marriage, i'm not saying it is outside of the norm. I'm saying the churches that would marry a gay couple are not your regular Methodist, Baptist or Catholic (or other established denomination) Church. there's a difference

Actually, Vagabondprince, you are wrong. *There are churches within every denomination that you mention that are willing and have already performed gay marriage ceremonies. *These aren't "fringe" churches. *They are churches that have been established for many years. *

That's just one of the reasons that I have a problem with people who are against gay marriage. *You are not just interfering with my legal rights, you are also interfering in how I choose to practice my religion. *Which is supposed to be unconstitutional.

Another thing that people who are considering the gay marriage issue should understand... *You aren't voting in favor of being gay or gay marriage, you are voting for someone's right to live their lives as they see fit. * There are groups that I don't agree with... but I would defend their right to believe as they choose.

[experimenter]

Well, I'll give my opinion, and I'll do my best to keep religion out of it.

I hold to the belief that marriage should continue to be defined as a union between a man and a woman. I know that times change, and with each generation, things change a little more. Having said that, I don't believe that change is always a good thing. In the cases of gay unions where children are involved, (not talking about children from a previous male and female relationship) I don't believe that it is healthy for the children. MEANING I believe that the child needs the influence of a mother AND a father. That child will not grow up with the influence of a natural (and I say this only because the fact is, it takes a man and a woman to create a child) relationship. That child will only grow up seeing how a gay couple relates to each other. I just don't feel that it would be a healthy environment. I'm not saying that having a child grow up in a gay environment is going to make that child gay, or anything like that. And I am definately not saying that two gay people can't love a child the same as a non gay family. I just don't believe the child would be getting the influence needed from parents of opposite sexes. So in that respect, I don't believe that gay unions are harmless. I believe that they will have more of an effect than people are willing to think about. Just my 2 cents worth.