Gay

[Marselluss]

interesting post, however I think you see something wrong: you wrote: "If you want to be gay then thats your decision wether i like it or not i must respect it. So anything i say here, please dont take the wrong way. I mean no disrespect at all."

you assume that sexuality is a choice, so basically all what a gay man would have to do is to change his mind to be in love again with a woman, but this very wrong! attraction is NO choice.
What you basically say is that you could fall in love with anybody and that you simple chose to do that, but you don't! I assume you have also experieneced that you met a great woman, she had the looks you liked and the charactertistics (most of the things you would like a woman to have) but....you didn't love her altough if you looked at her "features" she would have been somebody you could desire. what do I want to say with that? I want to show that you can't chose whom you love and to whom are you are attracted to. The same thing goes for gay and lesbian people. they don't choose to be attracted to people of the same gender, they just are, like you are left handed or right handed.
that's the reason why this "un-natural" argument is not valid in me eyes, because it claims that "gays make the wrong decision" and it has nothing to do with a decision at all.
IF you were right with that, then straight people could just decide to be gay. can you do that? I guess not.

[girl12]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Marselluss @ Jan. 02 2004,08:02)]interesting post, however I think you see something wrong: you wrote: "If you want to be gay then thats your decision wether i like it or not i must respect it. So anything i say here, please dont take the wrong way. I mean no disrespect at all."

you assume that sexuality is a choice, so basically all what a gay man would have to do is to change his mind to be in love again with a woman, but this very wrong! attraction is NO choice.
What you basically say is that you could fall in love with anybody and that you simple chose to do that, but you don't! I assume you have also experieneced that you met a great woman, she had the looks you liked and the charactertistics (most of the things you would like a woman to have) but....you didn't love her altough if you looked at her "features" she would have been somebody you could desire. what do I want to say with that? I want to show that you can't chose whom you love and to whom are you are attracted to. The same thing goes for gay and lesbian people. they don't choose to be attracted to people of the same gender, they just are, like you are left handed or right handed.
that's the reason why this "un-natural" argument is not valid in me eyes, because it claims that "gays make the wrong decision" and it has nothing to do with a decision at all.
IF you were right with that, then straight people could just decide to be gay. can you do that? I guess not.

thank you!!!
VERY cool post!!!

[nodoubt16pb]

I don't see why people hate gay people anyway. It's none of their business and it is really... when it comes down to it not a big deal to whom someone sleeps with... be it woman or men? So piss off People get so hung over this topic.... there is nothing really to say.

[mike]

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[Marselluss]

---Unless you have proof, then you have nothing more than an assumption to ride on yourself.---

read my post again how attraction works, If you assume that gay people "chose" to be gay, then you could simply chose to be gay too, or suddenly you could be attracted to the exact opposite type of woman you actually like. anbody who has ever been in love knows that you do not chose to be in love, it just happens. why are all those crazy love songs out there? because it's a "decision"? hell no, because it's a crazy thing happeing to you!

I'm amazed to see how many people want to tell other people what to do, especially in a topic that actually doesn't affect them in any way! sexuality is something that only affects people sharing it with each other.

[oberon]

Well, I think this topic is.....drifting. *But a lot of response and that is good. Thanks everyone.

The only post I'll respond to has to do with homosexuality being "unnatural". *Unnatural means "against nature" or "not found in nature". *Terminal Velocity, if you would care to check your facts, you will find that homosexuality happens quite frequently in nature. *Among animals that bond for life, such as swans and wolves, there have been recorded homosexual pairings. *The most wide-spread case would be the Bonobo chimps-who actually engage in sexual relations with members of the same sex.

Are there alot of these cases? No. *Because, as you said, if everyone became homosexual the species would die out. *But since it occurs in nature, homosexuality must serve some function. *Perhaps as population control. *Perhaps as relatives who have extra resources in bad times because they don't have the drain of children. *

So I have to discount this argument. *Homosexuality is hardly "unnatural". *But thanks, Terminal Velocity, this is the kind of response I am looking for.

I'll add my vote to the being gay is NOT a choice column, but you are absolutely correct that I can't prove that scientifically. *But then, you can't prove that it IS a choice, either.

[Terminal Velocity]

Originally Posted by [b

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Marselluss

interesting post, however I think you see something wrong: you wrote: "If you want to be gay then thats your decision wether i like it or not i must respect it. So anything i say here, please dont take the wrong way. I mean no disrespect at all."

you assume that sexuality is a choice, so basically all what a gay man would have to do is to change his mind to be in love again with a woman, but this very wrong! attraction is NO choice.
What you basically say is that you could fall in love with anybody and that you simple chose to do that, but you don't! I assume you have also experieneced that you met a great woman, she had the looks you liked and the charactertistics (most of the things you would like a woman to have) but....you didn't love her altough if you looked at her "features" she would have been somebody you could desire. what do I want to say with that? I want to show that you can't chose whom you love and to whom are you are attracted to. The same thing goes for gay and lesbian people. they don't choose to be attracted to people of the same gender, they just are, like you are left handed or right handed.
that's the reason why this "un-natural" argument is not valid in me eyes, because it claims that "gays make the wrong decision" and it has nothing to do with a decision at all.
IF you were right with that, then straight people could just decide to be gay. can you do that? I guess not.

Very well done. Fantastic argument. What can i say, That Blows my previous post out of the water. Very interesting stuff that. Attraction is a strange thing. Why can men be attracted to other men, or even how can men be attracted to women. I might go research that now.

I dunno. As much as i dont really feel right saying
I dont think there is anything wrong with homosexuals.
For ages i just thought nah homosexuality just isnt normal thats. not giving to much thought to it. but after reading the stuff here i find there is nothing really wrong with it.

Congratulations guys youve changed a mans opinion, which can be very difficult.

I will do some reasearch on this topic see if i can find some more non-religious arguments. I'll get back to yous.

Thank you.

[oberon]

Congratulations to you, Terminal Velocity, for having an open mind. Not too many people would consider changing their minds, let alone, come back and admit it. Please do keep researching reasons, I'd be interested to hear any you find.

[dominicanbabe101]

why do I feel that all the hositility here is about men loving men, what do you guys think about women being gay?

[Marselluss]

I think lesbians is a difficult topic. why? because most guys can't distinguish between pron lesbians and real lesbians. so far I can tell most guys think about hot babes with big boobs making out when they think about lesbians, however the average lesbian is probably quite the opposite, at least look wise.
I don't have any problems with lesbians as I don't have with gay men.