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Hello! Need some advice!

Hello to all! Just registered here after reading some stuff. Seems like a great forum and I think I'll be here often.

A little backround before I explain the issue. My wife and I were just married in June of 2007. We had been engaged for 2 years and dated for 4 years prior to that. So we know and love each other very much. There isn't much I wouldn't do for this girl.

A few years ago (like 4 years) she had a miscarriage. Now, it was not our intent to get pregnant (I'm 27 now and she's 24). She had switched birth control to something new, we didn't have sex for a month and listened to the doctors advice on holding off on sex for a month. Well, we had sex a month later and went back to our normal sexual routine. Turns out she got pregnant and the birth control caused a miscarriage and it was a big problem. I'm not going to get into details because both of us were rather upset, but the end result was she had to have a procedure after the fact. Docs would know what I'm talking about that. We went damn near 4-5 months without sex. It was incredibly hard for me, but we worked together everything we could outside of intercourse.

Well, when we went back to having sex, we discovered she could NOT orgasm without clitoral stimulation during penetration. I do a pretty good job (at least she praises me for it) at getting her very very horny and ready before penetration. She actually told me that thinking about how I give her oral pleasure makes her extremely wet. So when we have sex, she's usually 99% ready for it. But she absolutely can NOT have an orgasm with OUT clitoral stimulation, and I'm talking like a vibrator or some serious finger rubbing.

Prior to her procedure, this was never an issue. We would occassionally play with her clit during sex, but I could make her cum pretty well without it, because lets face it, some positions are just too difficult to get a hand or vibrator in that location.

Not anymore. A vibrator for her clit is the only way she can cum during sex. Its frustrating because it limits some of the things we can do. Are there any other woman that have this problem??

Its OK though, because we deal with it. I always tell her that sex is about HER. Because when its about HER, I find that I get more pleasure from it. I'll spend 30 minutes just kissing, licking and sucking her all over her body just to hear her and feel her getting ready. This is much more pleasure for me then just sticking my penis in and going to town. Usually when we have sex, its QUICK! I get her so horny, and that in turn gets me so ready, thats its quick and wonderful.

Early on in our relationship we found much frustration with sex. A lot of guys say that they want to have a bigger penis. This isn't bragging because sometimes I wish my dick was smaller. I'm 8 1/2" long and pretty thick (although I've never measured). My dick is TOO big for my wife. If we have long sex sessions, its painful for her. There are only a small handful of positions where I can actually penetrate her all the way. Most times, I stay at 1/2 to 3/4 of the length. And going in her 3/4 of the way can't be done all the time.

Anyway, the point is that I take care of my wife in all aspects of life and certainly in the bedroom. So the fact that we always have to have a vibrator on her clit, well its not a big deal, just more of an inconvenience sometimes. She also can NOT have an orgasm by riding on top of me. This was another thing that changed since her procedure.

We both just wanted to ask if anyone else, other couples, had similar issues.

Thanks!

I would have to agree with sera, she put it very well but I am going to put in my two cents.
It is most likely psychological in my opinion. I wouldn't say its mistrust, but as sera also said these things aren't necessarily obvious and may be in "the back of her head". I would say its most likely say that she may feel guilty (or similar) and feel her miscarriages were her fault and therefore may subconsciously "punish" herself by possibly not letting herself orgasm and she may not relies she is doing it. That is a possibility. I would recommend she (and you as it is a distressing thing that happened) see a counsellor or a sex therapist (I say this as well most have psychological (sometimes psychiatry) training and may help with the specific problem at hand.

Thats all I can offer, but it sounds like some of the things I have/am learning on my psychology course. I do hope this helps.

I would say there is a psychological aspect to this; first guess is, some form of mistrust, fear, or unresolved anger--focused at someone (not necessarily you). Many times you think in the back of your mind "if I did this then a miscarriage would not have happened", it does not have to be a realistic just a perceived fear.

Next assumption would be the hormones; that they are within normal limits.

I have to ask if you went through counseling together & also individually? The affects of a miscarriage can be, put lightly, very disturbing to a woman. You hold on to the thought of the child regardless of what is happening in your life, when no longer viable, a term. is very difficult to deal with regardless if it's spontaneous or required intervention. There is always a bit of a fear that it can happen again so you block pleasure whereas you just enjoyed it before. It manifests itself, at times, as not being capable as a woman.

I also go along with the above information.

While the two of you seem to have had an easy time of bringing her to a climax in years past, it is important to understand that for most couples, very few positions place a woman's pieces-parts in continuous ongoing contact with the man's in order to produce the necessary friction to generate a climax. So, what most loving, caring, compassionate, knowledgeable, skilled, lovers do is to reach around and stimulate her clitoris and labia while stroking away.

There is a paper listed in the Index that outlines a plan for helping women orgasm. There are also other papers dealing with the female orgasm process that I wish to recommend as reading material for the two of you.

My first suggestion to try is to wean her off of the vibrator. Vibrators are great used in moderation; however, as a regular requirement, they tend to cause dependency and nimble dexterous fingers no longer become enough. I'd like to see the two of you just play around without trying to achieve an orgasm and use your fingers. It will take some time for her to adjust to the lighter stimulation, yet, given some time and practice, I bet she can. It is certainly worth a try.

Yup yup. I agree with everyone as well...The whole pregnancy issue probably caused some frustration on her part...i.e. She was upset with herself cuz she couldnt keep it out of her pants for however long, and it lead to the death of a child...

Id say the only true option would be to maybe go to some counseling for it and work it out....I mean you shouldnt loose the ability to come from penetration at the snap of the fingers...(maybe if she had a baby the stretching would cause some numbness to the nerves but thats it)

Back when she had her first miscarriage, was she totally looking forward to having that child?

This sounds similar to a situation that I went through. Early on in our relationship, my wife (then girlfriend) became pregnant... proving to me that pulling out isn't a reliable form of birth control, but that's another issue. The thing is that she's always loved children and was ready to have some herself, even though she had just started her first year at college.

After a few months she miscarried; she blamed it on her 'family history of infertility' (how is it that you would even have a family history at all if that was the case), and I blamed it on her anorexia (how can you sustain a second lifeform when you barely nourish yourself?). Whatever the cause, she was fairly traumatized at the loss. Over time she tried to convince herself that her situation in life at the time wasn't right to be having kids... at least to those around her.

Once we started having sex again I could tell that she seemed to act a little detatched, not fully into it. Some time later she admitted to me that she was only having sex for my sake.

So yeah, you may want to look into getting her some counselling. She's probably too weary of enduring another miscarriage.

Specifically she needs to see two medical professionals: a doctor to have her hormones, etc, checked out and a sex therapist.

ANY change in your sexuality needs to be investigated and discussed.

While I am not similarly placed as you two, I have spoken with women who require vibe to clitoris stimulation to have an orgasm. They are not happy about this but are usually at a loss as to how to fix it/deal with it effectively.

I usually counsel people to focus upon the subtleties of sex- adding body worship, exploration of hot buttons, introducing more erotcism, involving the mind, demanding reciprocation from the woman, him introducing more muscle into his program, switching back and forth between penal stimulation of her G-Spot and penal stimulation of her posterior fornix - all at once!

So far this has worked out well, although some couples did need on-the-spot guidance a few times.

One thing YOU two have to change, in addition to the obvious, is she has got to focus more on ACTIVELY pleasing you instead of her being pleased pleases you. It is time for her to do the body worship to you. To find your hot buttons, to become more erotic - time for her to own the process, hun.

Thanks for the replies folks. Neither one of us wanted to have a child at that time, we were just both shocked at what happened.

I've talked with her about it, and she firmly believes its a medical thing that occured during the "operation".

Her sex drive is a bit less then mine, but we've been going through a lot of stress lately with her job and mine. She was let go at the end of the last school year and has been struggling to find a new job. I've been working at a job that keeps me away with very little pay, but I've recently gotten hired elsewhere.

Thanks for the advice though, I'll mention it to her.

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