Hi there and welcome to the forums!,

Firstly yes it is much harder to cum if hes ejaculated twice already in the day lol, ask him not to masturbate or dont pleasure him for a day or so and then try it again. As for the posistioning, id try and keep easing it in gently with you being on top, this way you can control how much you want to take in etc.

[QUOTE=MollyOnTheMarket]....he'd already come twice earlier in the day...[/QUOTE]

I think we found your problem.

Surely he knows his penis better than that by now. :cool:

Yeah...I agree with ua322...men typically have a refractory period post-orgasm during which they cannot have another orgasm. This period can be anywhere from less than a minute to over half a day, depending on age and other individual factors. So, I'd say if he'd already had two orgasms that day, it's a safe bet, his body just wasn't ready for a third. It happens.

does that apply to all jaysey? or how does it work? i have no problems having an orgasm like 4 times with maybe a 20 min break in between. is it just a thing that occurs in some and not in others? i know it takes longer and longer each and every time but is it impossible sometimes to never have one..

quite interested.

[QUOTE=Vper]does that apply to all jaysey? [/QUOTE]

Well, from what I understand (and I'm a woman, mind you), the older you are, the longer the refractory period might be. Young men typically have shorter refractory periods than older men. The fact that you are able to orgasm several times in a row with only 20 minute intervals between, although not typical, is something young men can experience.

Other factors besides age can also effect the length of time a man might need between orgasms (I'm not really sure particularly what those factors are, but...).

According to the International BioPharmaceutical Association, an increased infusion of the hormone oxytocin during ejaculation is believed to be chiefly responsible for the refractory period and the amount by which oxytocin is increased may affect the length of each refractory period.

So...once again, it's all about the individual and his body. If your body releases very little of the hormone, you may be able to achieve orgasm with less "down time" between sessions.

It's totally based on the individual. Some men can only get one a day, others are like machine guns they're so fast on the reload.

[QUOTE=Browser]It's totally based on the individual. Some men can only get one a day, others are like machine guns they're so fast on the reload.[/QUOTE]

lol. like the way u put that.

[QUOTE=Vper]does that apply to all jaysey? or how does it work? i have no problems having an orgasm like 4 times with maybe a 20 min break in between. is it just a thing that occurs in some and not in others? i know it takes longer and longer each and every time but is it impossible sometimes to never have one..

quite interested.[/QUOTE]

Well, if you're wanking it, that is different than sex. When you're wanking, you can control every bit of the stimulation and maybe rub out another one, but sometimes that is not the same with sex.

When you have sex several times in a small amount of time, it becomes more difficult to keep an erection and your penis gets desensitized, making it harder to orgasm.

It totally depends on the individual. I knew a couple of church kids who were saving themselves for marriage. They could barely get through the vows before a wave of horniness exploded in them. They went at it like rabbits, and here was the honeymoon scorecard:

1st Day: 10 times

2nd Day: 0 times (they were both too sore)

:D

This is an interesting thread having explicit comments and some suppositions as replies. I tend to take things literally so here is my take on what has transpired so far:

> We tried to have sex for the first time last night in the missionary position. He has a very large girth, and the only way I was able to guide him into me was a very non-sexy kind of tucking in with my hand, which left me frustrated.

The Woman Superior position is an excellent method for experiencing first-time sex. Why? Because the position places the woman in control over:

* the placement and delivery of the penis
* the angle of penetration
* the depth of penetration
* the speed and rate of stroking
* the intensity of thrusting
* the buildup and acquisition of her orgasm from direct ongoing friction

> Then, after about 10 minutes of thrusting, he got frustrated that he wasn't getting anywhere orgasm-wise (he'd already come twice earlier in the day.

Y'all have gone off on a tangent and have failed to identify the real problem.

"Ten minutes of thrusting?!" This is just wrong on so many levels. The first is that if it takes that long or longer to achieve a climax then the two of you are going about things out of order. Second, most women report becoming tired, bored, and sore after much more than five minutes of thrusting.

You have the cart before the horse if he believes that the purpose of thrusting is to build his arousal to the point of orgasm. The point of stroking is to maintain an already high state of arousal and readiness. The point of thrusting is to peak that intensity and to trigger the orgasm within a few thrusts.

Before intercourse begins, the man should be nearly at the point of no return brought about by all the necking, petting, and, foreplay that has gone on before. When a woman invites her man to enter, she should know that he is right on the verge of bursting yet can still maintain control. Doing this places the proverbial cart and horse in proper order. Once inside, the two can gently and gingerly stroke away for several minutes maintaining the intensity and then thrusting a few times in order to trigger his orgasm.

> (he'd already come twice earlier in the day. Can that affect trying to have an orgasm with intercourse?)

Having prevous orgasms in the period of a day can affect a man's ability to climax again, however, I belive from what you have stated that this is not what is preventing him from having an orgasm. What is is that the two of you are engaging in intercourse too early and well before it is time.

> We tried again this morning before work, and I wasn't able to negotiate getting him inside me with me on top, so I asked him to try the missonary position again. I had to tuck him in me again, and it felt better to me than last night, but he felt nothing on his end moving him to orgasm.

Questions that you need answers to:
* Are you well lubricated?
* Is he?

* Does he have a firm erection?
That you have to "tuck him in" makes it sound as if he is only semi-rigid or not even that. What say you?

> Unfortunately, he has it in his mind in reports for others that it's really easy to come the first time. Is it just jitters? Position? I know this sounds ignorant, but after so many years of pleasuring ourselves by ourselves, have we made it more difficult to be able to come with another? What can I do to help him?

Different positions affect each of you differently. The Woman Superior is one of only a few that make it possible for women to have an orgasm directly during intercourse, yet in my case, I rarely achieve an orgasm during it because of the angles involved that just do not provide the right stimulation needed. Ya just gotta experiment and see what works and when.

Younger guys often do climax immediately upon entering or very shortly thereafter due to anxiety and just being hyper sensitive. Premature Ejaculation is transitory and can visit a man anytime during his life for a short period and then disappear. Being that he is in his mid twenties, PE is generally not something that will plague couples. That said, he should not expect an immediate orgasm. What he should expect is that one will come in short order IF the two of you have built his level of arousal and sexual tension correctly before he enters you.

> I know this sounds ignorant, but after so many years of pleasuring ourselves by ourselves, have we made it more difficult to be able to come with another? What can I do to help him?

First, work each other up into a frenzy of readiness with kisses, caresses, and foreplay.

Second, do not be afraid to experiment and to see what works and then to communicate all this to one another.

Third, have him show you how he masturbates and then ask him to guide your hand with his several times in order for you to learn how to mimic the movements that are unique and specific to him. You know by now after years of self pleasuring that you have come to rely upon a certain way to stimulate yourself. It is the same for each one of us. If we are off the mark just a little, either the orgasm will fail to happen or if it does it will be less than expected. This is why it is important to lean how the other does it so that we can mimic each other's movements and pressures. Giving feedback is also important so that any midcourse corrections can be made.