well the best way is lots of foreplay, just as you anticipate penetration with precum so does she get aroused and secrete natural lubricant, lots of kissing and general body massaging/rubbing

During arousal, actual physical contact or thoughts, cause the mucous membranes of the vaginal walls to excrete excess lubricant/fluid. The result is wetness which is thin and slightly sticky to touch.

We women atcually produce more fluids than you guys up until the moment of your ejaculation. Some women get so wet that the whole area is damp; some just their vagina and lips are lubricated and some produce too little. That is why there is personal lubricant on the market.

We make ourselves wet. No matter what you do, if she is not in the mood or resisting, she will likely not lubricate. If her thoughts are sexy and romantic, she will.

[QUOTE=Brandye;178050]We women atcually produce more fluids than you guys up until the moment of your ejaculation. Some women get so wet that the whole area is damp; some just their vagina and lips are lubricated and some produce too little. That is why there is personal lubricant on the market.

We make ourselves wet. No matter what you do, if she is not in the mood or resisting, she will likely not lubricate. If her thoughts are sexy and romantic, she will.[/QUOTE]

yes I found that unless she was relaxed we got nowhere

Yes brandye you are correct. We usually end up with quite a wet spot or two on the bed & I know it's not from me! LOL I suspect that due to my age and the frequency we have sex, I don't really produce as much ejaculate as I used to. Back to the fellas question, when my GF doesn't seem to be lubricateing naturaly, I usually do her orally for a bit. The combination of the stimulation and a little saliva mixed in usually gets the job done. I find it more fun than the artificial lube which actually makes it a little too slippy for my tastes. I do reach for the lube occasionally if I'm feeling lazy or we're pressed for time, like in the morning. Guess I'm lucky though since most of the time she gets plenty wet on her own.

It depends on the girl as well as her mood... Each find different things a turn on. With my gf, she sometimes get wet when she just sees me. An easy way to make her wet is to bite her neck, then do a bit of dry humping. Works every time.

So find out what turns your girl on, and do that. The neck is usually a good start.

Is it just me or are you guys rather un-subtle? For example - try gently kissing with just a bit of tongue tip on the outer corners of her eyes very slowly or when holding hands, sliding your interlaced fingers along hers again very lightly and slowly. Kissing the nape of the neck with some pressure while holding her firmly in your arms and then sliding your licking and kissing own her spine slowly as far as decorum will permit is also very effective.

BTW ladies - this also works on men.

[quote=EvilEvilKitten;178159]Is it just me or are you guys rather un-subtle? For example - try gently kissing with just a bit of tongue tip on the outer corners of her eyes very slowly or when holding hands, sliding your interlaced fingers along hers again very lightly and slowly. Kissing the nape of the neck with some pressure while holding her firmly in your arms and then sliding your licking and kissing own her spine slowly as far as decorum will permit is also very effective.

BTW ladies - this also works on men.[/quote]

No Evil it's not just you...they just are not there yet, not into erotica.
No offense but a guy biting my neck & dry humping me, well no offense, but reminds me of when my lab get really excited.

Nice subtle erotica and seduction is where it's at.

[QUOTE=Old Kid;178060]Yes brandye you are correct. We usually end up with quite a wet spot or two on the bed & I know it's not from me! LOL I suspect that due to my age and the frequency we have sex, I don't really produce as much ejaculate as I used to. Back to the fellas question, when my GF doesn't seem to be lubricateing naturaly, I usually do her orally for a bit. The combination of the stimulation and a little saliva mixed in usually gets the job done. I find it more fun than the artificial lube which actually makes it a little too slippy for my tastes. I do reach for the lube occasionally if I'm feeling lazy or we're pressed for time, like in the morning. Guess I'm lucky though since most of the time she gets plenty wet on her own.[/QUOTE]
I am suprised you need lube in the mornings. My wife is usally dripping wet with no foreplay in the mornings. I always thought it was like morning wood for guys or something. Anyone else like this?

The greatest feeling is knowing that you are making her wet, once you get her started the more she will get wet, from then on instinct will take over and you will do the right thing

[QUOTE=sera300;178164]No offense but a guy biting my neck & dry humping me, well no offense, but reminds me of when my lab get really excited.

Nice subtle erotica and seduction is where it's at.[/QUOTE]

LOL I prefer it slow and gentle too, all I'm going off is what my gf wants. Like I said, every girl is different.

And biting doesn't have to be 'rough'. Open your mouth really wide, and slowly draw your teeth together against the neck, without actually getting flesh between the teeth, actual biting isn't as good really.

i slowly kiss her on her neck and move to nibbling her ears and kissing and licking down her spine lol
and tickling her back (my gf loves it)
all good