Today 9/11

[sera300]

Please all keep in mind the US and the members of NYC and adjacent areas who lost their lives just a few 6 years ago. Please remember all, and all who have lost lives since as a result, with just a moment of silence...

[BigKahuna]

All I can say is if I was one of the people who died in NY, THE LAST THING i would want is for people to be silent.

911 was an inside job. If you think otherwise, do yourself a favor and stop watching so much TV.

[sera300]

I meant a moment of silence to think of those who lost their lives (terrorists not included); a moment to reflect on our lives. Being one of the responders, for relief work, it should be a day never forgot.

I do not believe we, the US as a nation, should never be silent about the attack. I am very familiar with 9/11 and the subsequent fall out, watching TV? The media has no real influence on me; rather my education does.

[BigKahuna]

Sorry Sera, but i'm not on your page....

Your moment of silence was sent out only for the people who died on US soil. Since the 3000 or so dead in the USA is only a VERY TINY percentage, likely no more then 3%, of the people who have died and suffered because of this staged event, I am very confused by your logic.

Had you said: a moment of silence for all the people accross the world have died, been injured, or lost someone from the events that started on that day, i would be with you. But to come on a website to specifically only mention the 3% of americans who died, ignoring the hundred of thousands of iraqis and afghanis who had no part in this... wow.

I'm assuming that the million or so people who have died over there are not the terrorists you were referring to in your post, so let me ask you a little wake up question:

What terrorists lost their lives?

I imagine your answer is: the Arabs with the box cutters! Well, you may want to investigate that a little better, as nearly half of the supposed hi-jackers, that our media so deligently exposed as the culprits, were reported alive after 911. CNN, MSNBC, and our other great media outlets haven't really bothered to write a single word on the matter, which raises the question why all the media outlets are blacking it out, but if you do a search on the BBC news site, and other only slightly more credtiable sources known as official, you'll be able to read about those...

The ONLY terrorists here are the Bush crime family and friends... Mr Blaire, Cheney, Silverstine, Guiliani, Wolfowitz, Rockefellers, etc... (excuse the spelling on some of them...) Their is no shortage of information on this available to anyone who bothers spending a little bit of time looking...

Its been 6 years people, time to wake up.

[sera300]

You need not be on "My page"; the point was to recall the day & the event; the tragedy which began in NY. The rest follows. Credible sources...I am capable of finding and I do not feel the media is one--I personally prefer scholarly articles and such.

I felt it was a point to remember 9/11 and those who died in the attacks, being there myself as a relief worker, I felt it was significant to recall those who died rather then make some political statement. In fact I could re-write my thesis on Terrorism...but that was not my intent; my intent was focused on humanitarian efforts.

As I always say; If you don't like the system find ways to reform it through effectuating change.

[oedipussy]

Yeesh, there's always gotta be some nutjob with access to google and too much time on his hands. Enjoy living in your own little world where the government is always out to get you. Maybe it's time to cut back on watching The X-Files...

Besides, any idiot knows that 9/11 wasn't an inside job because it never actually happened! We were all brainwashed by television! Also: The moon landing was staged in Hollywood! Brett Favre framed OJ Simpson! Hitler and Tupac are still alive and living on an uncharted island! The Holocaust was just a Jewish publicity stunt!

My sources: Some homeless guy that used to work for the CIA before they put a mind-control chip in his brain

Well, anyway, it was a nice sentiment, sera...

[BigKahuna]

Sera: being there to help is very noble, and hats off to you for being there to help people.

After re-reading the thread, i am picking up on some hot-headedness trolling on my part, so my apologies for the tone. That said, if you do the research, you'll learn the truth about what this so called terrorism is caused by.

oedipussy: what you wrote is quite funny... as there is always a brainwashed sheep that is too self centered to take the time to understand the world that he or she is living in. But don't worry about it, keep doing it Yoooooooooouuuuuurrrrr way...

For the record:

If you have any critical thinking ability and review all of the recorded events during 911, there is only one possibility. Inside Job. If you think otherwise, i urge you to review the "truth movement" so to speak, and see for yourself... once you do, you may also want to think about how you got such a twisted view on the event...

The moon landing story is suspect as many of the pictures are clearly doctored. That does not mean we didn't go, it just means the pictures we are looking at could likely be fake. This is one of dozens of "issues" that need to be resolved before i would consider the story, as its told, to be factual / complete.

Haven't heard the OJ one... don't really care either way...

Hitler was funded by Bush and friends... Prescott Bush... (current president Bush's Grampa...) The bank was even confiscated by the government by I believe Hoover for breaking the trading with the enemy act. (this is well documented as well.)

Saw the Tupac one in one of those Inquirer newspapers in the grocery store... don't really care either way...

The holocaust is an interesting topic... and the holocaust, as it is known, is essentially little more then a Jewish publicity stunt. There were camps, people did die, but those camps acted as slave camps, and you don't need very much of a brain to understand that mass killing your slaves is not overly productive. A few things you should think over:
- More Polish Catholics died then jews from all of europe died in those camps (though you wouldn't think it given the amount of times you only hear the holocaust in reference to jewish people)
- Jew Soap was part of the approved evidence in the Nurumberg trials, (later proven to be complete BS) (very widly documented)
- The main gas chamber at Auschwitz (too lazy to check the spelling) was a bomb shelter when the camp was liberated, the russians did a reno job making it a "gas chamber" afterwards. (source: the head of the official museum)
- Free speach does not apply to any country surrounding the events... especially in Poland and Germany. Simply suggesting that the evidence doesn't add up can land you in jail... and many respected scholars have been sent to prison for simply voicing an academic opinion...

And since you've already implied it, i'm not a denier of the holocaust, I simply don't believe that it occured the way it is packaged. That said, you've already shown that you have been conditioned to associate anyone who thinks 911 was an inside job with nut job... but no, you aren't brainwashed... you are a free thinker... LMFAO

Since you are too conditioned to even consider anything besides what you have been taught, All i have to say to you is: Baaaaaaaaaaah

[sera300]

In examining what occurred much of my personal beliefs are based on the incompetence of the US Government; how an entire system was allowed to fail perhaps for reasons which strictly are driven by issues which are non-government related, and wishes to force a specific domination of the Middle-East. Since I am a NY'er, I lost friends, colleagues and fellow students as a result. As a nation, we lost touch of the need for human surveillance. I do believe cells exist and yet the entire matter was a way to facilitate [by the administration] the need for a stronger central government (i.e. DHS) and to justify it through the Bush Administration. I am remaining neutral in my approach here for many reasons; however, realize the current administration is not what most in the US want rather what we have. They (the Bush Admin) are at an all time low approval rating of approximately 30%. As it has been said "there are 17 different forms of Democracy [as a nation] and this is the best one we know"--author unknown.

One last note: Yes, I do believe the US took down one of our own flights...

[BigKahuna]

Thats a start... also consider:

1) no actual video of a plane hitting the pentagon... considering that the damage isn't consistent with the plane, you'd think that they would have just shown at least one video that showed it...

2) Tower 7 came down at around 5 pm from light damage and small fires. Watch the video of it coming down if you haven't.... this alone guarantees the use of explosives in a controlled demo. The least holder, Silverstein, even accidentally admits to pulling building 7 in a PBS documentary.

3) operation northwoods, a military plan to blow up a remote controlled drone over cuba and blame them for destroying a plane full of college students going on spring break. It covers some of how the news will sell the story... Shows they've at the very least thought about doing it.

4) Multi-billion dollar insurance cash out by the lease holders who only had the buildings for a few months. Apparently the buildings needed millions if not billions in repairs due to use of asbestos...

5) Security on the trade center complex and some of the involved airports was performed by a company controlled by one of Bush's brothers or cousins... There are many reports of strange power-downs, noises, and dust during the 2 weeks before the event.

6) Although the pancake theory is a load to begin with, check out the videos of all the "squibs" shooting out of the building 20-40 floors below the collapse line. Then check out all the testimony of multiple explosions and melted iron, if you didn't see it there yourself.

7) Just like in at least the Christian based religions, the best thing you can do to put yourself off it is to just read the official text... I highly recommend checking the report out and actually comparing it to videos and pictures... its a great place to NOT find: any alternate scenarios besides, any good questions like who benefited, or even accurate information on the event itself.

Once you check out those, ask yourself why the media has gone so far out of their way to not bring any of these questions to light...

[sera300]

I have looked at many photo's which do not correlate to the degree of damage which occurred and provide a blank explanation to degrees, there are many "theories".

As far as Silverstein, I know about the financial settlements which resulted and the stakeholders in the matter; I was privy to off the record info which I cannot get into from law-firms which defended both sides.

I know regarding the events and the documents there is a lack of correlation between the two.

Pancake theory? I am not familiar with...more so with the "Garbage can theory"; explanation of how a Bill is passed and subsequent "Riders".

The media is, well, a political player & forum much similar to lobby groups.

And it was WTC #2...not 7. The US was warned regarding the impending attack yet failed to take corrective action the fallout became the FBI's & CIA's inability to share information properly with each wishing to protect their "Kingdom"; hence, the formation of the DHS which oversees a bizarre grouping of organizations--a mix both private and public ones. There is a organizational structure to look at [which fall under the DHS] mainly Plum Island. Look at the stakeholders & shareholders of Plum Island and what exactly thy perform there.

Now, FEMA...within approximately 5 days their web based articles were purged, this I did see with my own eyes as well as other individuals. They went into a dummy organization. M. Brown at one point was very fast to get in an interview with me for the need for the DHS and "stripping" all employees of their civil services rights. Many worked out of the goodness of their heart for the organization for nearly 20 years, planned on their pension, and benefits. Under the DHS formation all these benefits which coincide with civil service would be abolished. The DHS would be the oversight organization functioning closer to the private sector models rather then the public sector models which was on the Bush agendas--abolishing Civil service. One point in theory [models] the closer the public sector models and shifts to the private sector; the more efficient it becomes [according to Balk & Calista; aka the Balk & Calista model]. Demonstrating failure of the public sector as efficient & effective provides credence for shifting towards the private sector model [the Bush agenda]. Now look at the mine collapse in the US which is calling from a move from private sector operations back to public sector operations and the requirement of Unions. Bush also reached out to the NGO's during this episode, another of his plans, becoming more reliant for NGO's to provide services which the Public sector did previously to offset the cost of Government.

Trust me; I did extensively research many matters which were consistent with [and non-consistent] the Bush Administration and was published in PAR; co-authored with a professor since I could not get in the review alone as only a Master--Thus; my reason for pursuing a PhD in Public Administration as Ii am doing to help explain Government failure and ways to effectuate proper changes. There is a distinct separation of Administrators and Politicians; the balance lies between. Madison & Wilson are prime examples of the need for balance.

The one failure was radio communication [old equipment] during 9/11 and the impulse of those to forget the number one rule---personal safety is ALWAYS first. There are three main "States" for Communication which need to interact to assure the system works well--optimal. One was taken out; NY.

Nevertheless, many lost lives from the goodness of their hearts [they had good intent in their actions]--picking through "body-parts" was not my idea of what I wished to do; however, as a Health care Provider you do what it takes to help those who require it. This trauma can never be erased for me; much like Katrina.