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Old 08-31-2006, 08:45 AM
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I am not in the US. The professional literature I read and news accounts seem to indicate that sex education in the US is heavily influenced by what the Yanks call the "religious Right." There seems to be some kind of law that abstinence is the only approved teaching in many areas.

The result is that when you compare US and European teen sexual activity, they are the same but the US teen pregnancy rate is far higher than any European country - and three times that of Netherlands.

I was raised in the Hebrides - a part of the world that has mastered sexual guilt. The schools, even the public ones, are highly influenced (controlled) by Catholics in the South and Presbyterians in the north. Treatment of sex is normally something like "men cannot help themselves; women need to tolerate their butishness - but only after marriage; unmarried pregnancy is still a terrible stigma." But, with every shopkeeper on the Islands knowing your parents, an unmarried person cannot risk buying condoms - still hidden under the counter.
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Interesting perspective on the US, Brandye... of course like all generalities it's true in some ways/areas, not in others... that the religious right has a huge influence.

The bigger "sin" is perhaps that this country is a nation of non-thinkers. We tend to "hook on" to a belief and ride it without questioning whether or not it makes one bit of sense. Some argue, for example, that preaching abstinence is un-realistic and accounts for the teen pregnancy rate. When you read many of the posts on this board you quickly learn that the pregnancies stem from:

1. Penises going into vaginas with fundamentally no consideration for the emotional and physical consequences.

2. A fundamental expectation that life is somehow only supposed to deliver us the things we think we should get... and that somebody else should take care of the consequences that we deem "not fair."

I'm not sure we can blame those two concepts on the religious right. LOL

There are government supported programs in this country that provide financial assistance to single mothers up to and including paying the rent for an apartment while she finishes school. But wait, there's more! The same program "encourages" the boyfriend to move it so there's a "father figure" present. So if you want your own apartment, get pregnant!

I digress. LOL Whether we are listening to the religious right... or watching porn... what's required is a healthy mind, capable of separating dogma from reality... and a willingness to accept responsibility for creating our own world.

So when some 16 year old Mom tellls her schoolmate to get pregnant so she can get her own place, that schoolmate is "smart" enough to want independence... financial, emotional, and intellectual.

See... "I've heard that you can't get pregnant if you have sex during your period" is not intellectual independence. It's reliance on a rumor.

See... "My bf and I r feeling like we r ready to do sex." is not emotional independence. It's reliance on what one wants being enough of a reason.

I think I forgot the question. LMAO
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i have to aggree this is a really intresting area. it is however one that i have a feeling is going to need to be touched upon lightly!

from what i have seen many religions encourage a very prudish outlook on sex. this often results in young people (especialy young women) having very little knowledge of whats going on. (vauge metaphors etc - ie little red riding hood).

there are some religions who look at sex as a holy act though, i can't see much of a control element with these (other than i suppose resulting in a lot more followers of those religions).
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basically most religeons the catholic one for sure I am in Italy and although an atheist know more about this so called religeon than the most faithful. so the catholic religeon basically bands to start with masturbation so young peolpe start off getting taught it is sinfull ecc. then they are told they can't have sex till they are married and then yet you can't have sex using birth control because it is meant esclusively for procreation. as much as the catholic religeon battle against "imorality" they use sex they use sex as a weapon to control people because obviously to tell a 15 year old boy not to masturbate is going to cause him some trouble. to tell a couple they can't have sex makes them think they have sined to tell a married couple sex is only for procreation makes them feel guilty of the pleasure they get out of it. the bottom line?: everybody cheats anyway and dose bot give a dam.

as for sex on the net well we all have choises to make. me personally I like watching what I consider a reasonable amount of porn but I don't enjoy just "anything" I like to choose because things portraing submited women that perhaps are not really enjoying it just don't turn me on they just make me sick.

I suppose I have a personal ally that keeps me out of "trouble" and I feel I can look after myself and know what is good and bad and how much is enough and how much is appropriate.
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Old 10-29-2006, 05:20 AM
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just a thought that has appeared to me,what about the psychological influence of dirty sex movies such are those are shown on the net??
I notice as many others do , that they're not healthy for viewing then watching.A few that are some acceptable to watch but most of them are unacceptable at all and are intended to result in a bad way for watcher....

I might be wrong, but that would be "not bad" matterial for discussion about! we could also talk about the healthy sexual ways for those who can't have sex due to religional thoughts in their societies.

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I don't see how any of the material works badly on the person if the person isn't asking for it. Whoever decides to click on the link, picture or movie that will send them to the specific location with specific displayed content really did click because of interest. If a person is interested, then it really knows what is it doing and looking for. It is a basic psycho-scientifical fact that if you simply are not interested into something or, even more, you feel plain aversion against it, you won't look for it. Therefore, if a illegal pedo page pops out of nowhere, and you decide to click and view the site content, you did it because you liked it. If there are pop ups with urophilia-wise content and you had to click to see it, you did it on purpose.

Following this, there is no movie that affects you badly because, for one - You may not like the idea of content in which a black hulk penetrates little teens anus cumming all over it but there are people who can cum only to that. Therefore, it would be insane from you to declare such movies are dirty if there is a person loving exactly those kind of movies. Otherwordly, who are you (or we) to claim what is right to someone, and what is not. And for two, on hand to this, no one really tells you "install Morpheus, type "webcam" into search field and download hundreds of masturbating girls/guys". You asked for it, you got it and that means it is a part of your nature (nevermind is it a voyeour fanatism or something else).

If a question should a child, or so, encouter such content while it didn't asked for it at all - my opinion is - yes. For one, sooner or later it will learn about sexuality and there is nothing anyone can do about it. As a matter of a fact, it would be unthrustworthy to reject person from sexual experiences while exactly the rejectors are those who do it since early ages. You don't like the idea of your eleven year old daughter/sister watching how a black hulk is penetrating tiny white girls ass? Set parental advisory on the various places in pc and control it until she grows old enough but do know if she is, at such age, interested into it - she WILL find a way. With or without PC.

To conclude this elaboration on dirtiness and bad influence, there is no "dirty" movie as movie that isn't acceptable and no bad influence. If you like getting your ass filled with cum then you like it with or without images and vides on internet. There is six-seven billions of us on Earth and most of us like some of it, majority of it, all of it. I'd rather beat the **** out of you than allow you to claim some of my sexual prefferences are "dirty", and yours aren't, if you get my point.
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WallyLlama is right and more...

WallyLlama is right on. His post should be copied and widly distributed! I will add one more factor:

The "family" has surrendered its responsibility in teaching "the right thing to do" to its children. Sex education is another of those responsibilities. Who do the parents want pass these responsibilities on to? The schools--the institution that has SO many responsibilities, SO little budget flexibility, and is SO indebted to community standards that it's impossible for schools to teach history, let alone sexuality!





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Interesting perspective on the US, Brandye... of course like all generalities it's true in some ways/areas, not in others... that the religious right has a huge influence.

The bigger "sin" is perhaps that this country is a nation of non-thinkers. We tend to "hook on" to a belief and ride it without questioning whether or not it makes one bit of sense. Some argue, for example, that preaching abstinence is un-realistic and accounts for the teen pregnancy rate. When you read many of the posts on this board you quickly learn that the pregnancies stem from:

1. Penises going into vaginas with fundamentally no consideration for the emotional and physical consequences.

2. A fundamental expectation that life is somehow only supposed to deliver us the things we think we should get... and that somebody else should take care of the consequences that we deem "not fair."

I'm not sure we can blame those two concepts on the religious right. LOL

There are government supported programs in this country that provide financial assistance to single mothers up to and including paying the rent for an apartment while she finishes school. But wait, there's more! The same program "encourages" the boyfriend to move it so there's a "father figure" present. So if you want your own apartment, get pregnant!

I digress. LOL Whether we are listening to the religious right... or watching porn... what's required is a healthy mind, capable of separating dogma from reality... and a willingness to accept responsibility for creating our own world.

So when some 16 year old Mom tellls her schoolmate to get pregnant so she can get her own place, that schoolmate is "smart" enough to want independence... financial, emotional, and intellectual.

See... "I've heard that you can't get pregnant if you have sex during your period" is not intellectual independence. It's reliance on a rumor.

See... "My bf and I r feeling like we r ready to do sex." is not emotional independence. It's reliance on what one wants being enough of a reason.

I think I forgot the question. LMAO
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ignoring sexuality is not going to stop teens from having sex. best they be proporley informed and so make their own choices, for there to be a situation where getting pregnant underaged gets you a free apartment and your boyfriend moving in that is redicolous no woundfer there are so many teen mothers in america it's a business like child benits in the UK. Unfortunately most parents are not up to informing their children proporly and so it goes on. I feel that sexual ignorance here in Italy is high there is basically no teachings in schools, my techer made an extra effort on the side and that was not much but a bit more than the sole study of anatomy.
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Yes i think there are major influences on psychological behavior for looking at dirty porn. First of all, It distracts your mind from other things;when you study, you think of bikinis and fail test. It also makes you perverted I think
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Yes i think there are major influences on psychological behavior for looking at dirty porn. First of all, It distracts your mind from other things;when you study, you think of bikinis and fail test. It also makes you perverted I think
it also depends on how YOU handle it, personally I'm not attached to it
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Yes me neither it looks pervasive to me and i dont want to be distracted from studies.
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