You are thinking about it to much really. Just go with the mood, if she starts showing body language that she is liking somthing, keep doing it. That could be her making some noises, breathing heavily, w/e. I'm not a female, but I do know their bodies don't have a manual.

[QUOTE=CleverName;240175]You are thinking about it to much really. Just go with the mood, if she starts showing body language that she is liking somthing, keep doing it. That could be her making some noises, breathing heavily, w/e. I'm not a female, but I do know their bodies don't have a manual.[/QUOTE]

:D exactly.....

Now as a matter of interest to me.... if you are to follow a set schedule... how do you keep track of time????? lol keep checking a
clock or watch or just use a stop watch with alarm ?????

Well, Chick, I can pretty much guarantee that if the woman discovered him watching the clock that she'd be wondering if not asking what his hurry is or what is more important than "this". That might just be enough to send him packing to find out.

[QUOTE=Pimpson2000;240171]I have made a similar post to this in the past. There is a lot on the web that breaks down tips for foreplay (breast play, kissing on the neck etc.). The one thing that is typically missing from these is the recommended time (in minutes etc.) to spend on each female body part.

[COLOR="blue">I understand your need for guidance in this matter; however, I also agree that you are over thinking this. Making love is what we do with and for each other; not what we do to each other. You are making it appear to be much too mechanical a process.[/COLOR]

I mean, I don't want to jump around like a distracted kid from one body part to the other. At the same time, I do not want things to turn remarkably monotous either. Hence, my questions are as follows:

[COLOR="black">Please read the articles listed in the Index that discuss how to fool around and make out {Necking, Petting, Heavy Petting) along with their progressive steps. This should answer half of your question.[/COLOR]

a. How much time is recommended for breast play?

[COLOR="blue">2 minutes 34 seconds for the one less responsive [1]
1 minute 19 seconds for the one more responsive for the first go-around. [2][/COLOR]

b. While kissing on the neck, what are the indicators that females typically give off when they like it?

[COLOR="blue">She turns her head and extends her neck.
She purrs
She tells you[/COLOR]

c. How much time is recommended for any kind of neck action?

d. Any thoughts on kissing on the stomach?

[COLOR="blue">If it works for her, as JFK said: "Proceed with all possible 'vigah'".
Communication is key to every relationship. This can be both verbal and non-verbal. Try it and see how she responds or reacts, then ask for feedback and make any adjustments as needed.

Another article to read is the one on "Implied Consent". You'll find it in Chapter Three.
INTERCOURSE / ORGASMS/ and the gentle art of Making Out, FIRST
Next read Chapter One of that article and continue reading the remaining chapters.[/COLOR]

As I had mentioned earlier, I have made a post somewhat similar to this in the past and the responses were helpful and quite specific. I also remember that there were some responses asking me to ask my girl what she prefers.

[COLOR="blue">You can do this as noted, above. An alternative is to employ "Implied Consent".[/COLOR]

Sadly, it has been over six years since I've been even remotely close to a relationship. All my experiences in the past year (there have been a few) have been "one-off" interactions with people that I was never really meant
to see again.
[COLOR="blue">
If you have read anything I've said recently and in the past about dating (Yes! there are articles on this subject listed in the Index, also.) then you are aware that the process is ongoing. Dating does not begin and end with the first warm body who expresses an interest in us. The purpose of dating is to learn what humanity has to offer us in a potential mate. For this to happen we must date several people, sometimes two at a time in order to be better able to determine when Ms./Mr. Right enters our life.

Dates can last through one dinner, a couple, many; and, a couple will be keepers. Dating should also be open and non-exclusive. There is less angst, drama and trauma when a couple is free to date others, not that she/he actually will.[/COLOR]

Now I sincerely hope this does not become a way of life for me but I simply do not have the luxury to practice on the same woman over and over again.
[COLOR="blue">
What do you mean? If you do not have the time to devote on a woman ongoing, how then do you expect to have a relationship? If by this statement you mean that you do not like her well enough to ask her out a second time, then you are actually going about dating correctly. Just keep looking for a better catch and you do this by continuing to ask women out.[/COLOR]

All I know is that with each experience, I want to get a little smarter about this since it has been YEARS since I have had this many experiences one after another - and when I least expect them.
[COLOR="blue">
Why not brave the unknown and date one or two a second and third time so you can learn more? Remember, some dates do last a bit longer than one dinner. If you continually pick the wrong women, then clearly you are doing something wrong. Change tactics.[/COLOR]

Any female perspective is more than welcome. Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]

Having been there, done that, and made many similar recommendations to those, above, I believe I have a formula that works. Besides, open dating and dating lots of different people is the way it was done up until about the last fifteen years or so. Time to return to what worked in the past.

P.S.
[1] [2] My answers were a reflection of my wry, dry, sense of humor. :eek:
There are no set times, nor should there be as noted. Take your cues for how long from her body language and her responses and for what she does in return. Read the articles on kissing and also making out and begin implementing the guidelines. Times vary depending upon conditions, mood, attitude, comfort, time of the month, and other unforeseen factors.

Explore and learn together in partnership.

-doc

Omg, Doc made a funny!!

well, as the old theory goes, some blokes orgasms come just in the right time to soft boil an egg. Timing is not important.As the man says...just go with the flow and look for the signs...!

YEGODS man - stop looking for a silver bullet when it comes to women, relationships and sex! THERE ISN'T ONE.

Watch her responses and be guided by them.

[QUOTE=CleverName;240175]You are thinking about it to much really. Just go with the mood, if she starts showing body language that she is liking somthing, keep doing it. That could be her making some noises, breathing heavily, w/e. I'm not a female, but I do know their bodies don't have a manual.[/QUOTE]

Thanks a lot CleverName. I am definitely quite attentive to the response but still always unsure of myself. Thanks once again.

[QUOTE=nuttychick;240177]:D exactly.....

Now as a matter of interest to me.... if you are to follow a set schedule... how do you keep track of time????? lol keep checking a
clock or watch or just use a stop watch with alarm ?????[/QUOTE]

Hey nuttychick,
I can't even start to imagine how much trouble I'd be in if I gave any impression of timing things...lol...big trouble!!! I guess this whole concept of time comes from a friend of mine that was describing his foreplay routine in terms of minutes - although I think he was from precise on the timing bit.

[QUOTE=dancingdoc2;240179]Well, Chick, I can pretty much guarantee that if the woman discovered him watching the clock that she'd be wondering if not asking what his hurry is or what is more important than "this". That might just be enough to send him packing to find out.

Having been there, done that, and made many similar recommendations to those, above, I believe I have a formula that works. Besides, open dating and dating lots of different people is the way it was done up until about the last fifteen years or so. Time to return to what worked in the past.

P.S.
[1] [2] My answers were a reflection of my wry, dry, sense of humor. :eek:
There are no set times, nor should there be as noted. Take your cues for how long from her body language and her responses and for what she does in return. Read the articles on kissing and also making out and begin implementing the guidelines. Times vary depending upon conditions, mood, attitude, comfort, time of the month, and other unforeseen factors.

Explore and learn together in partnership.

-doc[/QUOTE]

Hi doc,
As always, the voice of wisdom. I always look forward to your responses. You're right that I should not overanalyze this and reduce it to a mechanical process. I wish
I knew how to explain this. I just don't find myself in these situations very often but there have definitely been a few random instances that I did not see coming at all. Each of these have been with undeniably attractive women. Between trying to do everything right and deal with my feelings of absolute disbelief, I think I just bounce around from body part to body part without really spending time on them. This time, I definitely got some noticeably positive responses on certain body parts - more than others. Sadly, things did not last long enough since this was rather unexpected and happened while the girl was waiting at my place to be picked up for dinner by her friends. Our encounter was cut short when her friends showed up outside ready to pick her up.

I will definitely read the section on "Implied Consent". I definitely agree with your takeon dating multiple people. Interestingly enough, half these women I have had encounters are not people I asked out on dates. I don't even know how to describe this but it's these situations where the women end up not being from the city (and sometimes country) as I am. Either they're visiting, or I am visiting their city/country. The encounter stems from some random social situation involving others. When I talked
about not having the luxury of practicing with the same woman, I mean the following:

a. I either wasn't worthy of a second choice

OR

b. Geographic logistics did not allow for a follow-up encounter

I found your suggestions on the neck situation helpful and the ones on timing ridiculously funny!!! Thanks so much for taking the time to respond.

Regards,

Pimpson

> d. Any thoughts on kissing on the stomach?

YES! Many people discover that their partner's skin becomes hypersensitive when aroused, so much so that they become ticklish to a distraction. One area of the body this condition seems to manifest itself the most is around the abdomen. If you find that your partner becomes ticklish when trying to caress her, a good fix is to apply more pressure as you brush her skin with your arm, palm, etc.

In addition to kissing the skin, do not overlook blowing air on her skin, very lightly brushing your lips over her, licking or sucking (not kissing).

It is called Body Worship and yes, there's a sticky post about that in this site too.

[QUOTE=dancingdoc2;240247]> d. Any thoughts on kissing on the stomach?

YES! Many people discover that their partner's skin becomes hypersensitive when aroused, so much so that they become ticklish to a distraction. One area of the body this condition seems to manifest itself the most is around the abdomen. If you find that your partner becomes ticklish when trying to caress her, a good fix is to apply more pressure as you brush her skin with your arm, palm, etc.

In addition to kissing the skin, do not overlook blowing air on her skin, very lightly brushing your lips over her, licking or sucking (not kissing).[/QUOTE]

Thanks a ton doc!!! That is a great suggestion.

[QUOTE=EvilEvilKitten;240254]It is called Body Worship and yes, there's a sticky post about that in this site too.[/QUOTE]

Thanks a ton EvilKitten. I will definitely check out this post. I appreciate your input.