And after 15 minutes, she is starting to become a bit desensitized. Only one-quarter of all women reach orgasm through thrusting. Most of ua need additional stiulation. There is a new book out about Her Turn First. Generally, many couples find that focusing on her orgasm first and then his works best. Among other things, women remain alert and interested after orgasm while the release of endorphins in the male brain make him lethargic and less interested. You are better off bringing her off and then enjoy the internal thrusting. In my case, I am most receptive immediately following my orgasm.

Your second question is dependent upon the woman you ask.

To hit the G-Spot (if it exists) in the doggy position you need a droopy erection. I have never spoken to a woman who experienced a G-Spto orgasm in which stimulation came from the penis. I am sure they exist but fewer than ten percent of all women have actually been stimulated through their G-Spot. Get the basics down and move to the more sophisticated stuff later.

> 1. I loose my erection after probally 15 mins of hot sex, I can last that long without cumming, but I feel like I get so tired from the workout that I just loose my erection, usually leads to neither of us having orgasms. I could easy cum after 4 minutes but she takes longer, and I get exhausted. Is this normal?

Yes, however, you have to understand the individual dynamics of the situation and the differences between female and male arousal and how best to bring about a climax for each gender.

As has been said, very few women achieve a climax directly from intercourse because most positions do not provide the ongoing and constant friction required. Think about this for a moment.................when a person masturbates s/he devotes a considerable amount of time rubbing the genitalia in order to build friction. When engaged in intercourse most positions have a couple bouncing around with little or no continuous rubbing. How then is a body to accumulate the needed friction from this?

I whole heartedly agree that we (guys) should place our partner's climax first and foremost. The question is how. The answer is that most guys reach around and finger her pieces-parts while stroking or thrusting, regardless of the sexual position used. This is also independent of the manly thing to do that is to help her achive one or more orgasms before intercourse if it is her desire.

The situation you describe is quite common especially with men who (wrongly) believe that the act of intercourse and all the stroking and thrusting involved is what builds arousal and brings about an orgasm. This is wrong on so many levels. First and foremost, building arousal is what fooling around and ultimately foreplay is all about. Intercourse just maintains and eventually peaks an already high state of arousal and agitation and anticipation.

We have mentioned several times that if intercourse lasts longer than about ten minutes, women tend to become tired, bored, sore, and disinterested. Get each other turned on, first, from all the necking and petting, then devote some "quality time" with intercourse, making a connection with your partner. This has more to do with the psyches than anything and is how we become "one with the other" for a moment in time.

> 2. What thrust or stroke do you find the best or most pleasurable to women?

To each her own. Very often the answer is what the couple as a team work out together.

> 3. In doggy style how do you hit the G-spot?

Asked and answered.

I agree that an inexperienced couple (regardless of whether it is just one individual, the two; or, the inexperience of a newly formed partnership) should concentrate on the basics, first. Once you become "tuned in" to each other then you can work on the sophisticated stuff as Brandye recommends.

it doesn't necessarily need to be a droopy erection, i think it depends on the natural size, shape and angle of the penis My BF's curves down, and I figure it would be better during doggy style. Can't prove it though

> I agree totally with the woman having hers first. But I hardly ever get to that point without getting extremely wore out.

How can using your fingers and palms to caress her body and finger her genitals be tiring?

> Ive had sex with other girls that have orgasm in less than 5 mins with only intercourse, my new partner takes longer and it is extremely stressful too me.

Here is a quote for a reply I just finished writing to another poster:

"People place too much emphasis and importance on "experience"--or the lack of, and mostly for the wrong reasons. It matters little how much previous experience a man or woman has accumulated during previous relationships and the reason it isn't all that important or relevant in the real world is because every time a new pairing is formed, an entirely new set of dynamics goes into play.

What worked for one person, when, where, and at what time, may not be the same for another individual, so, there is a period of adjustment and a learning curve that the new couple must go through. Adding to the mix are personal preferences for different types of caresses or how they should be done, if at all. To add spice to this "soup" is the fact that techniques vary from individual to individual in order to accomplish the same things."

You would probably do yourself well if you devoted more time effort and interest in kissing and caressing her (entire body) for an hour with the intent on pleasing her as well as building her ardor and sexual tension, anticipation, and desire.

> I am trying to get some new moves to get her to orgasm.

How many times and in how many ways do I have to say: finger her.
One place to begin is at the upper vulva. Let your fingers explore between the folds and along the shaft of the clitoris. Massage and gently tug on the labia. Finger the clitoris, regardless of the sexual position used.

Use a moist finger on the clitoris and hood as well as the shaft of the clitoris. Fold the inner lips over the clitoris and finger it through them. This is especially important when the clitoris becomes too sensitive to touch directly.

Ask her to demonstrate how she masturbates and then to take your fingers in hand and to guide them several times until you learn to mimic her unique and specific movements, rhythms, and pressures. This is the best "move" for you to make because if you can mimic what she does when alone, then you are pretty much guaranteed to be able to help her achive an orgasm using your fingers.

> I can finger her an get her to orgasm in like 3 mins. its way to simple,

You are doing well and are on target, so to speak. Keep up the good works.

> I feel I have conquered that approach, and am attempting to conquer the intercourse orgasm. Thank you all for your advice.

Just to repeat myself, and then to offer a possible solution:

"As has been said, very few women achieve a climax directly from intercourse because most positions do not provide the ongoing and constant friction required. When engaged in intercourse most positions have a couple bouncing around with little or no continuous rubbing. How then is a body to accumulate the needed friction from this?"

Those positions that offer the best chance for a woman to achieve her orgasm are:
* The Missionary position modified by having the man "ride high" up so that the base of his penis rubs against her labia and clitoris
* The "X" and "Y" positions. These are the same except for the placement of the legs. A couple reclines on their sides facing each other at slight angles.
* The Woman Superior position in which the man reclines face up, the woman straddles his body facing him. She can squat, lay on top of him, rest above him on her hand or forearms.

Of all the positions, the WS is the most favored. This is your best bet for conquering the orgasm from intercourse delema. The position places her in control of her own destiny.