Well, given where u are giving this massage, i don't think there's much more u can do to overtly stimulate her without getting in alot of trouble! The only advise i can give is to kiss her a few times as well...women love the romance balanced wiht the sensual touching!

As far as precum, bud, u will keep leaking as long as u are hard and stimulated yourself. That's just part of your body's reaction to yourself being stimulated! Not sure where your cock is pointing during this, but u might want to make sure and wear thicker underwear OR darker pants to help making the pre-cum spot less visable!

no exception to hand-holding and kissing, holding close, etc.

What kind of school is it? That's crazy. It seems like such a middle school thing
(assuming you're not in middle school naturally).

As for the precum, I had the same issue, as a lot of guys do I assume, and it seems like the amount goes down a lot, although it never completely stops. After a while you will get greater sexual tolerance, so I imagine it will slow down a lot.

Also, on the same precum thing, I reccomend wearing jeans if you';re really attached to wearing boxers. A better thing to do is where boxer briefs, I find I like them better anyways.

i am in middle school. 8th grade, im 14.
No problem man, I just assumed you were not, mainly because I was way too prude to do that in eigth grade, but if you're fine with it, that's cool. I'm sorry that it seemed like I was attacking you or something, I tend to seem like an ******* on the internet, but I promise I'm not.

Hopefully, even though i am 14, you can respect me all the same, rather than treat me more like a kid than a teen/young adult.
Doesn't change anything for me, I still respect you all the same. Just keep in mind that I seem like an ******* on the internet, I don't really know why, but apparently I do.

Continue pleasing your girlfriend man, the younger age doesn't change anything in my opinion, so long as you guys are happy, that is all that matters.

> I was rubbing/massaging her labium majora (she pointed it out to me by asking if I was enjoying myself, and then noted that she was.)
What I would first like to know is how can I stimulate her more while I am doing this?

Considering that the two of you are seated, and, even though her vulva is oriented generally forward, there probably isn't much more you can do in the area because the Labia Majora covers everything in between. You'd have to slip a finger inside her panties for "more", and, in public, this just isn't wise or responsible behavior. Now, having said that, all is not necessarily in vain because the clitoris can be affected pleasantly by the indirect friction caused by rubbing and massaging the labia covering it.

> As I continue to massage her clitoris/labium majora, will I pre-cum as much, or will I produce less and less pre-cum the more I do this with her?

Precum serves two functions; first, to purge and cleanse the urethra so that sperm will not be killed enroute; second, as an initial and temporary lubricant. In general, how much appears is directly proportional to how turned on you are and for how long. As mentioned, above, it tends to stop or just trickle after awhile when you consider that it has performened its two functions.

> i guess ill have to stick a sock in my boxers or something

You could do this...then, there would be snickers from among your friends who want to chide you about the rather pronounced bulge in your pants! Depending upon the shape of the sock, I suppose you could respond by saying that you are indeed very well endowed, or, that you have really really BIG balls and leave it to the observers to decide for themselves! :confused:

> holding on to her/ massaging/rubbing her leg is how i show to her that i love her

Nothing wrong with this, although you might want to look at the broader picture and consider that you, like older more experienced people, show their affection for each other in other ways; like:
* the way you hold hands
* the way you place an arm around her
* the way you gaze into her eyes
* the way you give her a quick glance in response to something said
* the things you do for her
* the thoughts you express
* the eye contact you give her when she talks
* being a good listener when she speaks and not trying to interject comments or fix what may be wrong, should she complain about this or that.
* not spreading gossip or a confidentiality shared by her.

There is a lot of good information, above. Got questions?

As I was reading your post, I was thinking you might be someone I know... because two friends of mine have recently started dating and after the PDA got very excessive at the lunch table, almost to the degree which your post described, I am now eating with different people.

Just thought I'd let you know. Other people don't tend to take very kindly to excessive public displays of affection.

Well I feel you on this, I am in highschool (a sophomore) and my girlfriend and I fool around in class alot. Whenever we get the chance to be partners on group projects we take full advantage of it. I'll often ask her to wear skirts so when she sits next to me I can have my hand up there. A suggestion I want to add is, of course if she is comfortable with it, ask her to buy underwear with a slit in the front. My girlfriend bought them at Fredericks of Hollywood, and when she wears a skirt, I can get easy acess to her vagina, so I can finger her all she wants in class. But of course only ask if shes comfortable wit it, and be careful not to get caught, I almost did once but luckily my teacher isnt as smart as she thinks she is.

lol well like I said its all up to her comfort level bro. But yeah I guess I got lucky on that. Yes those underwear are my favorite lol

lol nice, work with what she is comfortable with man. Best of luck to you

Well 14 dawg dats hella young. Lol I lost my virginity at 15. But chea when she asks you how you feel just be honest and tell her " I'm cool with whatever your cool with" Be honest, be open, and respect whatever she says. The best thing you can do is listen. If she seems uncomfortable in a situation back off inspite of what your hormones tell you. I know, its alot harder than it sounds, but you seem to be doing everything right. Let me tell you the hormones just keep coming. Im 16 now and have more hormones that I know what to do with lol.

yeah I'm glad you are on the right track bro. You seem to treat her with the respect she deserves and I wish the best for you two. I am pretty young myself so I didnt mean any offense when I said you were young. I hope you two spend a long time together, you remind me of me and my girlfriend alot. Good luck man.

lol I feel on that, I see the lil 8th graders making out and hear stories of them fingering girls and all that. Sex is becoming more widely accepted in private society and by a younger age group than previous times. I am pretty young for this forum too. Socially speaking sex may or may not be acceptable depending on who you hang out with, but on a larger scale sex is still taboo and considered dirty. Which is a stereotype I hope will one day disappear

wow, thats alot more than I did when I was 14. I mean I go to parties and there is liqour now, but not back then. My little sister is 14, I certainly hope she isnt doing that stuff.

Here is a prime rule in relationships. Let's call it Relationships 101.

The rule is called "Implied Consent". Simply put, consent to do something or other is implied or granted without being expressed. You have the person's permission to proceed with an activity or action on your own initiative up to the point you have reached the person's limit or boundary.

A boundary can be extended anytime and is usually done after we gain more experience, have trust in the other person, and are more comfortable with the present level of intimacy. So, knowing how this works, how do you know when a person has extended her/his boundary to something further into the unknown? Simple. If the two of you are making out, then when you reach her previous boundary she will not stop you as you try to press ever onward and upward, so to speak. You are free to continue until you reach her newest boundary, and so it goes.

> funny thing is, she tends to ask me if im "having fun" alot. then, i reply with, "i dunno, are you?" and she then says "sure", no yes's , no no's, nothing to give me a 100% feeling for what i should do (dont go on, yes go on)

from the way she says it, i cant tell if that means "back off, ive had enough" or "keep going, im enjoying it". usually though, she tells me that it feels good, or something around those lines, so i guess im ok.

Asked and answered, above. Sometimes we don't exactly know what we like and don't like until we experience it. Constantly asking for reassurance is fine in theory, but not too good an image builder in the real world.

The next relationship rule is "Confidence". Women don't care so much about money, means, or looks (appearance is another matter), what does matter is that a man has and exudes confidence. Certainly ask for guidence and direction on what tact to take, but once she does, then proceed with confidence. This works even if she doesn't know what she wants, as noted above. In the movie "Oh God", starring George Burns, God stated that he manages the big picture and leaves us to manage the details, or words to that affect. So, too, with confident behavior. We can give our partner guidelines to work within and once we know the parameters, we are free (implied consent) to take charge of the activity and lead the way. Later, as things progress, if she doesn't like what is happening or has a suggestion to enhance the situation, then she can state it. This is preferable to constantly asking for approval or feedback on every little detail. Again, Implied Consent states that we lead the way until reaching a boundary or as in this example, the person asks for or suggests a change. We presume that what we are doing is OK with the other person until we hear otherwise.

You may in the beginning be douting your every move, be scared out of your wits, hesitant, or with no real clue of what to do next, yet in her eyes, that you are taking charge and leading the two of you, is demonstrating confident behavior. You can't help but be a winner in her eyes. Success, even acquired in small incremental steps, builds confidence and self assurance.

> "i dunno, are you?"

Certainly you know the answer to each of these questions. Tell her the truth. "Yes I am" or "no, how about this instead" are examples of two positive responses that convey meaninful information as well as expressing self confidence with regard to how you are reacting to a situation.

It is fine not to know something, although, when this is a person's ongoing reply, it leaves a person exasperated, wondering, and unsure. This is not what we want, right?

Plan your work and work your plan. Lead the way and have fun with every confidence.

Doc