I hardly see me starting the destructive nature of the thread. And I definitely don't see me defending Pelezo's readiness to have children while others belittled it as starting destruction, quite the opposite. And when people are out of line I have every right to attack/defend, just like they all did. Just like you did with your biting sarcasm. You were the one who started in with the insults with your sarcasm, so before you go blaming me for being destructive you should realize that you posted the first thread attacking someone else. And yes, people continued to talk about what a mistake they had made AFTER they already KNEW she was pregnant. Don't you criticize the value of my posts when an entire post of yours(the first one to attack people in the thread) was devoted to sarcasm at the expense of Pelezo. And there are plenty of just "opinions" posted around the board, that's partially what it's designed for. Giving advice is just another form of your opinion. And of course you're going to tune me out because you attack someone and then don't give them a chance to respond, how mature of you. And of course there are more posts by me, when there are 2-3 people ganging up on one person it's hard to try and defend him without posting often. Giving advice is opinion, therefore every post on this forum is just opinion, so if your stance on opinion is that it doesn't have any value then perhaps the whole forum should just be wiped out? That's basically what you're saying. Advice isn't fact, it's opinion.

Well, I had to log in to respond to some PMS and I now see that one thread threatens to tear apart this wonderful forum. Pity. Having gone back thru this 2-page thread, reading every post there are a few observations that I'd like to make and I'm going to do my best not to raise any hackles- with one exception. And Cornelius, I'm gonna say it and then I'm going to tune you out.

This thread was headed in the same direction as most other threads on this board when someone posts in the New to Sex thread. If you'll read my original post, you'll find that I did not judge Pelezo. In fact, I clearly stated that I did not know the kid. If the additional information that he's provided in the thread is true, he's probably better prepared than most 17-year olds given the parental absenteeism and younger siblings. And while I'm skeptical of kids who leave school, there may be extenuating circumstances in Pelezo's case and, I applaud the fact that he's working toward his GED. So Pelezo, if I offended you with my sarcasm, I apologize for that. I wish you and your family the best that life can bring you. But, in general, my view of teenagers bearing children stands.

What really bothers me about the whole tone of this thread, are the 28 posts by Cornelius. C111, do you realize that nearly 1/2 of your posts at sexinfo have been defend and attack posts. I could not find one shred of advice that you offered Pelezo or any other member of this board within this thread. In FACT, it was you who started the destructive nature of the thread with post #9 in the thread.

Now as far as "move on, the deed is done" because Pelezo is now expecting a child, you'll see in his original post, that they were not (knowingly) pregnant when the members voiced their opinions. And that is, indeed, what this board is all about. Advice and opinion. Cornelius you've been very heavy on opinion and certainly lacking in advice. Bring some value to the board. Don't simply attack other people's posts. I too, like to play the devi's advocate, but only if it provides some value to the discussion.

Frankly, I'd like to recommend that the mod delete this entire thread because I find absolutely no redeaming value to it.

Oberon, you know my thoughts, so I'm not even going to there.

I don't want to learn about the impossible, thanks.

Alright... bye.

So basically you teach people to do things that can't be proven whether or not they're actually doing it.

Hmm, alright then... if your a skeptic thats fine.. and no there is ways to prove it.. BY DOING IT.. duh.. silly boy.or.. girl? but yea..:) byebye.

That's not proof. Anyone can say they're feeling something. How about a picture of one of those psi-balls. And not this little dot in a dark room either.

by doing it.. i mean making things move.. seeing their auras.. helping them meet spirit guides, helping them read people and photos.. objects... projecting themselves.. working with their dreams.. creating those orbs... but ok, i dont see what this has to do with anything.. but if you wanan learn more about it... pm me...cause..yes..

well anyhoo. BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE,.....

A teacher at 17, right.

Yes a teacher, i've been doing it since i was about 13, i teach people about metaphysics.. go to my website, i have "clients""students" that come to me, i teach them how to get in touch"blah blah blah" lol.. and so forth.. now.. please if you wanan try argueing with me.. least do it in a messanger form.. so.. we're up to the right speed, that and we dont bother people on here. now.. tata

So basically you do nothing.

I still fail to see how 12 year olds can provide any counseling at all.

no, acctually. I counsell them. and advise them... also im a teacher.. or a form of a teacher. But helping someone help themselves.. is a great acheivement.. helping them try and get themselves straightened out.. is awesome.

oh ahaha, sorry.. forgot about the click thing.. that meant..
*CLICK * its over.. ignored... laughs kinda thing.. im used to saying that in yahoo..

Just one last Correction... when i first started to post... it wasnt a problem.

im glad you feel sorry for the people i counsell, but.. im not.. wanna know why? they all seem to make it to what they were looking for.. by me helping them help themselves.. so please.. dont judge my work. when you know nothing about it... thats it.. end of my posts on here.. *CLICK*

12 year olds are hardly in a position to counsel anybody. They have no life experience whatsoever. Unless of course you're running a service like the girl did on Peanuts where she charged her friends a nickel for bad advice. Otherwise counseling should be left to people with life experience and mature views. Oh and the message board isn't a phone so I don't know what the click is supposed to be.

Well, for me, this horse is dead and throughly beaten. I'd like to think some good came out of it. Maybe if not for the original poster, then for someone else. I hope so anyway.

And if you've been doing it for 5 years that means you were 12 when you started. I don't think a 12 year old has nearly enough life experience to be counseling others unless it's on what style they should use for their hair, and even then it's questionable.

Its sad when you have to resort to my spelling to try and put me down.. and you know what.. ITS JUST MY opinion and it makes me sick.. lol thats all i said.. and yea the deed is done.. thats too bad.. but meh.. and.. if i really said my mind im sure i would be booted from this place... and.. I can talk that way to people my age.. anyone can... nothing is stopping anyone from giving that "tough mentality" i dont see why my age plays into any of this.. i wasnt directing the age mostly at P.. there it was his gf.. her being more younger.. simple.. and i said how i felt.. why cant you leave it at that. Seems im the only one with "negative" ideas about the thing but ... do i care ? no.. not really. cause its how i feel.
And P, i know exactly what its like to be with Your hun every day.. me and ty used to be before he moved.. now its when ever we can.. so i dont understand.. where that comes from.. but ALRIGHT..
the whole smacked around thing, was MEANt to be.. "get some sense in to your head" and i think everyone on here knows it.. but some seem to like to use that.. but whatever..
also.. it probally will change between you an dher... ask parents here.. who've had children, it seems to alter the relationship alittle... because they are looking after someone else before themselves..

and try to be constructive.. im sorry but you know what i've been doing for about 5 years??? counselling people.. i think thats pretty constructive, tryin to help people help themselves.. and i dont see why i have to be on something like this... to me its wrong..
and i dont care if the deed is done to me it is Still wrong. So dont tell me how i should post my opinions or my ideas.. to each's own..

well i've had enough of this post.. i guess im off to better things :P But Demon, i do thank you for *thinks* maybe understanding? my side.. or... i duno.. just lookin at my posts.. THank you girl.

ps.. i dont give a rats ass how you spell Hunny. its HUNNY TO ME>. cause.. Honey is food. :P

jamie

oberon makes a good point
even though you practically raised 2 of your brothers...ultimately in the end they weren't your responsibility.
at the end of the day they were your parents responsibility.
and since your parents just had a new baby are they expecting you to help raise that one too?
i agree its kind of sad that they put that responsibility on such a young person.
it appears you lost your childhood a long time ago.
but you're right, i don't know you or your situation im just making an educated guess.

there you go dissing us again.
i thought you had decided to act better. and who's the one acting one sided??? look in the mirror!
even if 5 months=1 year, that's still a little early to be talking kids.
corn's right the deed is done, but you mentioned that you had to raise all your brothers. was that totally so much fun you couldn't stand it!!
was it fun watching your parents get to go out on the weekends while you were stuck at home?
i agree there are some fun aspects to children but theres some also not so fun.
i guess i have such a hard time believing someone would want a child so early b/c i don't even really like kids..lol.
i can stand them for about a day and then they get on my nerves...esp babies.
my friends little girl is 3 and she is the perfect age. she can play and talk to you. but babies don't do much of anything.

ok, on the responses of the gay issue i agree w/ oberon. i too am from the south...Alabama, even more hick than GA or TX.
i hung out w/ a group of friends mostly guys and one of them was gay. he was a great person and would have done anything for me.
i don't understand why straight guys are always like... i like gays as long as they don't touch me or hit on me.
like oberon said before... the guys who worry about it most aren't even a gay guys type and have the least to worry about.
also, i don't get this stereotype that gay men are so horny and out of control that they just walk up to random strangers hugging them or grabbing their crotch.
thats just crazy. i mean im sure theres a few. theres a few straight guys who get drunk and do that to girls.
but any gay guy ive know acted normal and went about the dating process much like straight people.
people ( especially those who live in the south or small towns anywhere) have such closed minded ideas of what certaiin things are.
their only idea of a gay man is the "one" guy in town they know and Will from will and grace. they have no other mental picture of how gay people may act or live their lives.

Thanks Oberon

Okay, I'm having to start out with a whole post edit here, never done that before. Didn't notice that this topic was two pages now. Duh!

Cornelius111, if you start at the beginning you'll notice that my posts were not negative at all. Mainly because Pelezo really didn't ask any questions. 1. My girlfriend and I have unprotected sex. 2. I don't want to feel bad because my girlfriend wants me to have a threesome. 3. I want my girlfriend to moan more. 4. (the only real question) How do I trim my pubic hair? And the closest I came to being snarky, was pointing out he sounded like he was bragging.

What initially set me off was his comment ("that gay crap yuck") that was like a slap in the face. I'd just spent my time reading about his teenaged, large breasted, multi-orgasmic, threesome-allowing, baby-carrying girlfriend and he demeans my life with the terms "crap" and "yuck". This was followed by explanations that only made me realize that he doesn't really care to expand his mental image of gay people.

That and a lot of other things lead me to believe that, yes, he is, as demonbuttercup reiterated, too young and too inexperienced for child-rearing. But you are correct in the fact that the deed is done. So here's some positive advice for him. A teacher of mine once said, "Raising kids is the toughest job in the world, and they give it to a bunch of amateurs." Pelezo, you have less than nine months to make yourself an expert- books, classes, whatever- don't waste it.
Oh, and it's Snellville, no (s), and I live pretty close to there.

Lady, no one needs to be smacked around here. The last thing this situation needs is head trauma.

Cornelius111, sorry for the confusion. You'll want to edit YOUR post now.

Oh and don't call me "huny", and if you're going to at least try to spell it right(for the record it's "honey").

acutally Cornelius111, i dont really give a S*!T wat a GED is!! it wasnt my point! im done with this post!

Well thank you Demon..!!

and Cor... well sorry huny but It does make me sick.

Demon, Lady is a teenager, she can't very well talk down to, lecture, and use the "tough mentality" on someone her own age. And Lady if it makes you so sick why don't you stop running your mouth and go throw up somewhere, because you being sick doesn't do anything. She's already pregnant so there's no point in you still running your mouth with ur negative comments. Try to be constructive for once.

By the way, a G.E.D. is an equivalence of a high school diploma. People get a G.E.D. when they go back to school after being unable to initially finish high school for a variety of reasons(pregnancy, family problems/death, drug problems, or a variety of others.)

Of course I agree it's too soon into the relationship, but what's done is done, no point in beating the topic to death. Personally, my girlfriend and I don't plan on marrying until we're both out of college and able to support ourselves. And then kids are still probably 3 years away after that, but that's just how I feel personally. I don't believe that teenage girls should be having children, their bodies are still developing and the risks to both them and the baby are significant. However, what's done is done so I see no point in telling Pelezo that it's stupid to have kids so young because it's too late to stop them. Posting about how his actions "make you sick" serve no purpose any longer because his girlfriend is pregnant, so instead of bashing his decision making everyone should be giving constructive advice, that was my main problem with the posts of others.

i live in AUS, i dont know all hte general stereotypes that are made where people live, i dont konw wat the hell a GED is, i know wat a mechanic is, and i know wat its like to be in a relationship wiht a girl, i know wat Pelezo is saying about not liking to be hit on by homosexual people, i dont know wat its like to have a baby, i know wat its like to be a 16-17 year old, i know wat its like to finish school and go into university, i dont konw how to bring up a baby at a such a young age, i know wat sex is, i only know a little bit of wat life has to offer, i havent learnt all my life lessons, i know wat it feels like to be happy, i know wat it feels like to be under stress in a competition........

wat im trying to say here is, everyone has their own opinions, and will learn lessons in life, they will adapt and change, people take their own choices and face the consequences, all of us on this board cant do much know, Pelezo's g/f is pregnant (you cant do much to change that now), those of us who oppose it will still do so, those of us who dont then dont! i say this topic has had enough said, Pelezo will learn his own way, he may one day come back on this board n say that he is living fine with his 6 yr old child, or he may come back in another post and say how things are, how should he work and particular aspects of my relationship wif his child or wife n that he shouldnt have had  a child at such a young age. i dont recall this site ever being a medium for throwing around abuse or ganging up on a particular person and analysing every single word they type.  this site was designed to allow people to gain advise from other more experienced or people from a different perspective without having the people on the post know them personally, allowing them to have an alias name and a cover opening the doors to freely express themselves.  this post has gone far beyond helping people, its almost become a contest or a braging fest or a show of who has more wisdom or experience.  

debate as you must, but debate for an outcome, Pelezo is stuck to his path all u can do right now is aid him, help him out with watever problems he has.

hope that whoever reads this whole post later they get wat demonbuttercup said and live their life as a 16-17 year old, and not give up their childhood/teen years.

i say to everyone...quit replying to this post. only reply if there is a genuine question and you mean to give genunine help or discuss issues. not banter on about crap.

well im 25 so i do have a little more knowledge on the subject and yes one thing that just totally blows me over is the fact that since when do 2 people start dating and 3 1/2 months into the relationship say "lets have a baby!" i dont' care if the couple are teenagers, 20's, 30's doesn't matter.
cornelius...you gotta agree w/ this one... that just isn't a rational concept.
doesn't matter how much you trust eachother or love eachother... having babies just doesn't usually come up this early in a relationship.
you know its nice to take time to get to know and enjoy eachothers company. they won't even get to do that. they'll have been together less than a year then its no more pelezo and his g/f....it will be mom, dad, and baby. no more just them.
and you think you'll be able to spend time together but its not always like that. the first year or two everyone loves being able to babysit the kids, but then after that the novelty wears off... trust me ive seen it plenty of times.
other family members have kids, etc.
i just want someone other than Lady...Cornelius and maybe even Pelezo to admit im right about the whole too soon in the relationship thing.. i mean come on. am i crazy here or what??
even if he and his g/f feel they are ready and really want it...who brings that topic up 3 months into a relationship?

as far as Lady's posts go i think she's just speaking her mind as all of us are....when you talk to teenagers (who tend to sometimes be quite stubborn) you kind of have to use a "tough love" mentality on the whole situation.

LadyOfLucidDepths, I don't think at 17 years old you're in a position to call Pelezo a baby. And I don't think encouraging parents to beat their children requires reading between the lines, it's pretty blatant. You talk down to Pelezo like you're so much older and mature than he is, when you're both the same age.

I like to hope I always have a valid point, but thank you for your approval.

Sorry Sweetie, i could give... what you think my posts mean.. ANd hay i said nothing about Gays.. or anything of the sort, so why you pulling that one out of the bag... cause really that dont bother me and the whole babies havin babies.. its the truth.
OOO a month and a Half. wow.. amazing.... im glad you guys have REALLY thought it through..

Right... childabuse.. well then.. thats nice?? im sure everyone on here knew exactly what i meant by that.. and not PHYSICAL abuse.. how stupid would thatbe? now comon.. read between the lines huny.
ALso.. i dont see how when you plan on having sex.. has much to do with it.. please. point it out for me.....
WHY do i Criticise? I call it like i see it.. and i see it as stupidity...Sorry thats just how i see it. You can Bash me all you want about it.. but in my mind it still is STUPID... but hay still congrats on the baby and all.. but Bah.. silly children.

Hahhaah *sigh* your so funny HAHAHA funny.. good ol times.
Oh i understand what it takes to raise a child... why would you assume such a thing :P thats whyit makes me wonder about a 16 year old Wanting that choice...
and i duno whats with you people.. seems im the only one who cant have an opinion YEA its negative but its still my opinion.. ALSO... since when am i basein something on my family? my past relationships on how old you are??? that doesnt make sense.. silly.. silly.

ANddd i dont think you guys noticed, i siad... you probally WILL make it.. no doubt... really. but im sayin i dont agree with bringing a child into the world at your age. ON PURPOSE....

And just because you don't understand what's required to raise a child and that you don't do it for the child's sake doesn't mean that somebody younger than you couldn't grasp the concept. People understand things at different times in their life, perhaps Pelezo is ready to have children before you are, despite his being considerably younger.

Well, SOMEONe had to do it.. and Oberon LUV ya hun.. and i agree with you.. but i still stand by it.. babies.. shouldnt bring babies in.. specially her only being 16...being that young.. do you REALLY know what you want in life? think about it.. its like a career.. does anyone ever know what they want to do when they "grow up" im just sad because a baby is gonn abe brought into this world... *they are all around the world* but.. i mean.. its gonn abe brought into this world.. and like to a bunch of CHILDREN.. sorry but its true you guys are STILL kids!! yea im glad you guys are excited but it makes me sick to my stomach.. and hay dont get me wrong, i want a baby now too.. but i wont be cause.. it isnt fair to that child.. or to me.. Dont you wanan live alittle?? because you have to become selfless.. and say good bye to your regular "life".. *sigh*.... just makes me so sick inside.. ALmost wanna cry.. thinking about a baby.. coming in.. to 2 people BAH>. just.. bah. Yea im sure you guys will do fine.... but gesus.. i just wish people would wait alittle while to make sure its TRUEly.. what they want. and can handle. specially a 16 year old.

and Cor.... Yea.. ok well Someone had to do it. and its How i feel so Don't put that crap on me saying it was Childish.. its the truth.. i wish their parents would smack em around and make them realise how big of a deal it is TO have a child.. im sure they CLAIM they know but do they really? i doubt it..

and thanks Oberon.. I will use the (.....'s) i have no idea why i do it.. but for me it makes it easier to read the sentences.. LAUGHS well more like fragments.. but its easier fo rme...

jamie

well pelezo im glad you've decided to come and talk to us on a more rational level.
i think oberon said it best when he said we all just had your best interest at heart.
i think we were worried you were definetly jumping into something major too soon. 1) being the age factor, 2) being that you and your g/f have only been together for 5 months. a lot of couples aren't even having sex by then and you guys are already talking babies. thats already a shacky foundation but if you believe it can work and are ready to work for it, more power to ya.

i think some of us, i know me in particular, just can't imagine wanting to give up your life at 16-17. i mean when you turn 16 is basically when you first gain your independence. you get a car...are able to come and go when you want.
when people mention living my life i don't think of things like partying all the time and sleeping around. i mean theres other things. lots of people like to travel and see the world once they get out of school.
my best friend is 25 and already has 2 kids and i see how tough things are for her. she's a stay at home mom while my cousin works all day. she never has a moment to herself. children and very demanding and needy ive learned.and even tho they have people to babysit they rarely get to enjoy just the little things. like going out and having a nice meal, or go to the movies. i go w/ her sometimes to the mall and its an ordeal just to do that.
when i turned 16 i spent most of my time going to concerts. i had a car so i would drive all my friends to ATL...i lived in alabama...it was some of the greatest times of my life. music is a big part of my life. i can't imagine all the shows and experiences i would have missed.

now the deed is done and all we can do is wish you the best of luck on the tough road ahead. even tho it will be tough there will be some great moments too.

Isn't debate wonderful? Sometimes in school I would take the opposing side of a debate simply because nobody else did, even if it went against my own beliefs. Personally as of right now I have nothing more to say, but I'll be on the look out.

Oh, dear God, where to start?

First of all, I was born and have lived all my life in the south (Georgia to be specific) and am well acquainted with the way anyone who doesn't fit the "good ole boy" ideal is treated.  That doesn't justify it as correct behavior however.

The idea that high school kids, particularly in the south, could be so blatant and forward about their sexuality fills me with amazement.  Most adolescents don't wish to be different from their peers in any way.  Their family, yes; their friends, no.  But I'll take what you say at face value.  If these people don't respond to "no", report them to someone.  If that fails, then you are well within your rights to protect yourself if they try to assault you- that's unwanted touching, not looks.  As far as looking goes, well, as long as you are in a public place looking is free.  You really can't control what other people think about what they see.  I mean, if a woman wanted to look at me naked and fantasize- Hey, it could happen!  It could!- as long as she didn't expect my participation, more power to her.  It's not taking anything away from me, nor is it harming me in any way.  

As a side note, I talk about people being ostracized or persecuted for being different.  I've never really experienced that.  I blend in quite well.  I'm reasonably good at sports. I can fix my own car.  I do very good construction work.  So, I've generally been lumped in with the academics.  No one usually knows I'm gay til I tell them.  And there are a lot more gay people like me than the ones who really stand out.  We can look and you'd never be the wiser.  Now, doesn't that just creep you out?

About the baby.  I'm sure most people on here really do have your best interest at heart.  A lot of them know firsthand how hard raising children is and I'm sure they wouldn't wish that responsibility on the shoulders of someone they feel should enjoy being young.  Realizing that whatever age you are now...18?... add at least 18 years to it before your life is your own again.  Your life is no longer important.  The child comes first.  Your existence is only important in relation to him(her).  That means you'll be at least 36 before what you want matters.  When you can do whatever you want without thinking about someone else first.

About the GED.  If you know what you want to do for the rest of your life and know you'll be happy doing it, then you are very lucky.  There is nothing wrong with having a GED.  What people on here are reacting to is the fact that you could be limiting your options.  Unfortunately, most people still look at a GED as less than a high school diploma.  It automatically brings to mind the question "Why couldn't you finish high school?"  People can assume that it meant you quit.  And not too many companies will take chances on a proven quitter.  I'm not saying you are, but people will generally assume the worst.  And it's hard to get a second chance.  Anyway, good luck on your job; I hope it's a great career.

Finally, I'd like to, I believe the expression is, "give you props" for inspiring such a well posted topic.  Debate is great fun.

Apparently they weren't blunt enough for you to see his insulting behavior toward gay people.  And he clearly has a problem relating to gays- unless they are there to make him laugh.  That attitude certainly wouldn't be tolerated in dealing with any other minority.  I'm relatively sure I have more experience dealing with homophobia than you- because people seldom concern themselves with problems that don't relate to them directly; so your not seeing a problem with his statements is understandable.  But if someone is going to give me an opportunity to educate, then I am not going to turn it down.  If it doesn't help him, maybe it helps someone else.  I, personally, feel that the world could do with a little less ignorance.

I think by definition good advice is not judgemental, insulting, hypocritcal or childish. So if you think their advice contained any or all of these, then you must feel their advice wasn't good.  And I believe the opposite of good is bad.

Finally, I feel that anyone who comes here is welcome to my attention regardless of their literary skills.  If bad grammer and excessive punctuation disturb you, then do yourself a favor and just skip those posts.  I know how you feel.  Some things (like Pat Robertson on TV) just make my skin crawl.  I've learned for my own mental health to just keep moving.  Otherwise, I just end up angry and out of sorts for no good reason.

P.S.  Incidentally, I'm sort of enjoying this.  I like when people have opposing positions and can argue them back and forth.

My advice to those who are tired of this topic is to stop reading/responding to it (if you haven't already).

My advice to those who are enjoying it, is to carry on posting - but please refrain from gratuitous profanity and/or insults to other individuals or groups.

thank you,
the moderator

I never said wiseman or Lady gave bad advice, I said they insulted him, judged him, and were hypocritical and childish. I stand by that assertion.

Yes everyone is entitled to their opinions, I had just hoped people could be mature enough to steer clear of insulting his job and intelligence as wiseman did. Also, it'd be nice if people could at least make some attempt to use proper grammar and such without having rampant punctuation everywhere. Additionally, I fail to see the point of you regurgitating his opinions other than pointing out the already obvious. I don't think everyone needs his opinions to be explained, they were fairly blunt in the first place.

Cornelius111, you didn't mention me in your list of people who give bad advice but I'm gonna answer anyway.

First of all, if you post in a public forum, then you should be ready to accept whatever responses you get.  And a topic like teen pregnancy is sure to start a landslide.  But since there was no actual question involved- it was a statement "We don't use birth control and could/are okay with having a baby"- I kept my personal opinions of the wisdom of this course of action to myself.  From the tone of the post, I could tell it wouldn't do any good to say anything anyway.  However, since the subject has been broached, the idea of someone who worries about a little less pubic hair making him a little boy shaping the development of a young child makes me shudder.

Then, of course, there are some of his other "views".

I definitely get the impression that he has a problem with gay people.  Any form of displayed affection on their part- perfectly acceptable in heterosexuals- seems to make him physically ill.  The exact statement is seeing "them make out in front of me, it makes me sick".  He then magnanimously allows them the right to kiss.... as long as he doesn't have to look at it.  

He also seems horrified that a gay guy might hit on him or worse yet actually dare to touch him.  Most rational people- I really can't speak for the irrational- respond very well to "No" or "Sorry, not interested".  Most other rational people know this.  The funny thing about this phobia of being hit on by gay men is that the guys who worry about it the most really have the least to worry about.

Then there is the quote of quotes:  "I never did see any point in being gay, you got to tell your parents, you got to be out in the open, blabla, the list goes on, it makes your life twice as hard, what's the point?".  To me, the inconceivable ignorance of that statement is appalling.  Like it's some bad decision on my part, just to inconvenience myself and everyone around me.  He says he has a gay "friend", and all I can think is poor friend.  Any problem discussed with him is likely to be prefaced by "Well, since you were stupid enough to decide to be gay..."  Not much of a friend in my opinion.

Now these are just MY opinions.  He is entitled to his.  You are entitled to yours.  

Oh, one other thing....LadyOfLucidDepths, please keep using as many {...} as you like.  I really don't think I could read your post without them now.

He knows how difficult getting through high school can be, you see that as advice? That's a direct insult to Pelezo's intelligence.