Why don't you finger her till she is feeling goooood, and then ask her in a whisper if you could do something different that you've always wanted to do? She might say yes, then tell her you always wanted to cum all over her breasts....silence may mean "all right" while you stradle over her chest with your finger still in her...then fire away...with this all natural breast massage oil you can massage her breasts....yum!

Do a search on facilas. Answered many times with at least one lengthy thread.

i believe its downgrading and gross, a females face and breasts are to be looked at or kissed / sucked on
To me it looks hard to keep a guys cock in her breasts and make it feel good for both of you
i had a female once who wanted to try it, i am sort of glad it didnt happen, its not for me, apparently it used to turn her on if she was masturbating thinking a guy was doing that to her, she thought of other things as well during that time

Well I won't dispute the intellectual submissive/dominant debate with someone who calls it "downgrading"

But no, it does not have to be seen as degrading. If your chick feels that it is, it's probably not because of the act itself, but of some other insecurity.

People are into all sorts of weird stuff sexually. Many men like to have their girl friends penetrate them with a strap on... and that's not degrading either!

It's only degrading if one of the parties involved feels as such. You can listen to your lady's reasoning and try to persuade her otherwise, but if she still perceives it that way even after calm discussion, then yes, it would be degrading for her, so don't even think of doing it.

I personally, as a woman, don't think it's degrading if everyone involved is respecting each other, although I imagine getting semen on the face would be rather uncomfortable and not particularly sexy to most. And if your aim is slightly off, and gets in her eyes... OW!

Ahh... the "degrading" discussion. Quite remarkable how frequently it pops up. Sera, have you seen this thread? :D

[quote=wet_suit_one;228636]Ahh... the "degrading" discussion. Quite remarkable how frequently it pops up. Sera, have you seen this thread? :D[/quote]

Yeap, and I say it's between the two involved. "Whatever floats their boat" as long as both know what they are in for. I guess if I knew him well [mutual respect] & in a LTR [yes, that LTR thing again], an undying fantasy of his, I may consider. However, I've never been faced with that as an option or a request.

for me, anything that is downgrading which is aimed at a females face, can hurt or make things not be a good experience
yeah there is people who like doing that sort of stuff and thing its wonderful,
meaning of the word
downgrading
[COLOR="Red">1 - to demote to a less skilled job at lower pay
2- to lower in importance, value, esteem, etc.
3 - to belittle[/COLOR]

No, I wouldn't want or allow it. It's my face, my life and my time and I say "No". I find it repulsive, degrading and demeaning.

Tell me lusty,

Is it the semen that is repulsive, degrading and demeaning or just the fact that it is on your face directly from the source? Is semen anywhere on you repulsive, degrading and demeaning or just on your face?

If he took a dab of semen from your vagina after making a deposit in its natural depository and wiped it on your cheek, would that be repulsive degrading and demeaning?

What if it was an accident (i.e. you and he are going at it and it slips out at the moment of truth, and a blast arcs forth gracefully through the air and lands on your forehead) is that demeaning repulsive and disgusting?

I am honestly trying to understand how it is demeaning, repulsive and degrading. Is it because of it's association with hardcore porn? Is it because you never agreed to it first (but then again, if you want a man to ask before every single move in sex, it's going to be rough going for good sex) or is it something else?

Kindly help this poor fool figure some things out.

Thank you for your assistance and enlightenment.

Cheers!

Well wetsuitone, I don't care for semen/ejaculate anywhere but inside my vagina. It's my personal opinion and I don't care to argue or debate because what others do and like is of no consecquence to me. As far as accidental squirts of ejaculate go, that doesn't happen either because I normally don't do BJ's unless there is a medical reason whay I can't have intercourse. On those rare occasions that I have offered a BJ, there is absolutely no ejaculation in my mouth, EVER! Once he gets that close, it's a hands only procedure and my face/mouth is nowhere near it. I ( again this is a personal opinion and I don't care if others agree or not ) think that this is a way men ( like a dog ) "marks their territory" so to speak. It's repulsive and unwanted.
My time is very valuable and my energey is too. If I'm going to spend my precious time in a sexual act, it will one that is MUTUALLY pleasing that I want to engage in. I'm not into pitty sex nor is my purpose in life to suck him off and be humiliated by ejaculate on my face.

Really referring to men as being similar to dogs & placing yourself higher on a pedestal is a bad attitude.

Men are wonderful [& really so are my dogs]. However, referring to bad behavior & inferring it to men is not so nice of you. And degrading to men in your attitude for their thoughts or fantasy. Everyones time is valuable--not just yours.

This is obvious something that LustyLisa feels very strongly about and people's personal feelings, beliefs, preferences, limits and practices should be respected here as in the bedroom, kitchen, garage, roof-wherever you have sex:p

I am also curious, as wet_suit_one, about why certain things are considered degrading or humiliating. Are these conclusions that people arrive at independently or is their thinking influenced by media or culture?

I used to have a couple of "degradation" hangups. I mostly got over one, the other I am still deciding whether it doesn't actually belong in the category of "unpleasant" and if the discussion of degradation continues I might talk about my hangups.

LustyLisa, how did you come to the conclusion that ejaculation outside the woman's body is how a man "marks his territory?" What man thinks that way? When I want to mark my territory I leave a hickey on the inside of the upper thigh!!!!

Porn flicks (or vids) over the years have been made primarily for men. They are designed and acted to appeal to the basest instincts of men who are watching or developing their own fantasies. Regrettably, many of these cross the line from showing erotic situations to showing blatantly abusive or degrading situations. As porn has exploded on the net over the past ten years, the "facial" has become increasingly popular.

If you show two people screwing and the male tenses up, holds still and gasps, we women know exactly what is happening in our vaginas. Somehow this appears to producers of this stuff not to be descriptive enough so they have the man pull out and ejaculate out where other men see what is happening.

I have never know a woman who enjoyed getting a face full. Many of us have had it happen. For instance when leaning over to perform oral, I got a surprise when he was closer than I thought. Or, while stimulating a man with my hair, I waited bit long and got a face full. That is a part of sex and we better be able to tolerate it.

The thought of a man stimulating himself for the last half minute exclusively to see himself ejaculate all over my face is not appealing.

Is this culturally determined or self-determined? I do not know nor do I care. The desire for men to come on my face is certainly culturally determined. If I do a good job of extracting the semen from, why else would he want to finish himself?

I don't watch porn movies really. I have seen maybe 5 in my entire life. What I dislike most about porn movies is men pulling out and masturbating at the end of the scene. I find it very puzzling. Maybe it is because I have not seen enough porn movies, but I have never seen a facial in a porn movie. I have seen a couple when I have been invited or told ("cum in my face")to apply them and in those cases it was not I doing the work.

The question remains: why is this, or blow jobs for that matter, considered degrading or humiliating?

[quote=Brandye;228840]
I have never know a woman who enjoyed getting a face full. Many of us have had it happen. For instance when leaning over to perform oral, I got a surprise when he was closer than I thought. Or, while stimulating a man with my hair, I waited bit long and got a face full. That is a part of sex and we better be able to tolerate it.
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This is the point; we all have gotten a face full accidentally, call it hazards of the act. Engage in a behavior and at times an unwanted consequence is the outcome. Personally I have never had a man ask for a "facial"; I suppose if it was a man as my ex-fiance, I would give it a try if he felt that strongly about it. Just keep it out of the eyes...we all know it stings.

What I do find offensive is; we as women draw our limits of what we find acceptable; however, having the attitude of men acting like a dog marking his territory is what I find annoying. Men are to be treated respectfully & I would not want mine to not bring up anything which they may find appealing since I do share my fantasies as well. Now, we may not agree to act on them for whatever reason but there is a point of discussion; not just disgust.

Much is, yes, found from porn and in fact not real. The behavior, terming men like dogs marking territory & having time which is too precious [unlike everyone else] is what I find irritating from LL's post. I do not enjoy a lifestyle like perhaps yourself, EEK or dlb [first people who come to mind]...yet I do not say its worthless sex in my opinion since you enjoy your lifestyles. They are not mine & you would be bored to tears with mine!

But to flat out and to diminish a thought in the back of a man's mind, even if it's a fantasy, is where I found L.L.'s post degrading to men.

Hey, I have had a shot in the eye, on the wall, on the face, body, or the dog/cat roaming around accidentally by a man & myself. It does not mean he intended this nor I...yet I can laugh. I do not kick an other's lifestyle or perhaps wishes if they are well thought through. I do not wish young men to think facials are a norm since NO man has asked in my entire life. Yet, I would not take a man I loved and treat him as less than human for embarking upon such if it was his hidden desire which he wanted to carry out his whole life.

Meanwhile, I do have to look at another point; if I orgasm during oral and have ejaculate, he has gotten it all over his face...why is the standard different?

I do believe this is a gray area where there is discussion between both partners who are experienced...and not intended for those who are thinking such is normal [routine acts to ask] and are new to the sex world. If he can stand my taste and cope with the scent & fluids...I can definitely swallow his. Meanwhile, this is the same man who wanted to perform oral on me during my period yet I said "no" due to my own limits or perhaps my notions on sex.

Overall, I do believe porn is the culprit for men & women believing facials are a routine sex act. With a man I love; there is nothing degrading sexually if done between two people consensually. I find the; my time is too precious to allow him to ejaculate in my mouth to be offensive to women & men accompanied by the comment on voiding on territory. All time is precious, to each & every one of us. Making the man I love happy is worth my time.

As I stated once prior--the only degrading sex act was the guy who "accidentally" hit orgasm [during a BJ] while we were just heating up and put his pants on and left! This was on the first date, after I cooked lunch, and he called the next day for a luncheon again [date time was due to my work schedule at the time]! Leaving me hanging was what I found degrading.

Accidental duplicate post...sorry, the computer had a mind of it's own!

Very interesting discussion...

Thanks for sticking up for men Sera. Again, I appreciate that.

Thanks Sera for your appreciation for men, women are equally wonderful too. Soooo... a little hot semen action, in the moment of passion, could make for a wonderful time "so happy together".

I don't really have a problem with facial, but yes I do find it messy. If blowing my partner and he has not timed right into my mouth (most men find it difficult as they withdraw at the last minute) then I will succumb to a facial or alternatively, I will grip back his cock and suck him off rather.