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[Massdebator]

Let me start this off by saying that this reply of mine is mainly for the benefit of those users just now involving themselves in this thread. My advice to you is to listen to EEK and let the subject drop, because as she said earlier, "You can't fix stupid." This Franklin guy is either a (very good) troll or he is a person who will be beyond our counsel until he can overcome his own personal demons.

Humble, you're only telling him what he wants to hear. His issues are much more deeply rooted than his physical appearance. He's pinning the blame on his ears, because he is in denial that his attitude is the number one obstacle between him and a date. You said it yourself when you said, "I don't think your physique is what repels women."

Franklin, I will try one last time, and I'm being generous here. Your attitude towards life, friendship, and whatever else may be all well and good, but there's a reason why your female acquaintances aren't comfortable with developing relationships with you beyond friendships. Your attitude, specifically towards sex, romance, and 'all that jazz', is in dire need of adjustment. You objectify women and only think about your goals, your needs, and what you want to get from them. Women (and men for that matter) are wary of this kind of behavior, and for good reason.

To top it all off, you refuse to reflect back upon your own behavior and do some self-examination, nor do you take criticism well (unless, of course, your critics are just spoon feeding you what you want to hear).

Franklin, I don't need you to quote me and respond to this unless you choose to write something other than 'I already did this or that' or 'this doesn't apply to me because I'm ugly.' You've broken down all of our advice into its component parts time and time again. You've told us all that you've "been doing what (we've) told (you) for years." Did anyone ever tell you that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts? You have to do all of what we've offered, all the time, except the surgery. There are cheaper, less dramatic ways to feel less self-conscious and improve your self image, and you certainly don't need the surgery to get a real woman.

[RATED-RKOFRANKLIN]

Originally Posted by springfever

Well, I dunno why some have claimed you as "ugly" ...coz u r not. You really aren't that bad looking at all, but can understand you being self consious of your ears.

As I said...be urself. You say u hav tried flirting with no success
...how do u generally flirt? ...maybe learning some tactics in this area could avoid you falling into *friend zone*...

I usually start off with a "hi" or "whats up". Girls normally push me away after that. I can see from their negative body language that they want me to leave so I just leave.

Originally Posted by Humble

Having now seen your pictures, I don't think your physique is what repels women. You seem to be lean and with everything in the right place, so women should probably find you attractive. Well, yes, the ears do protrude to the sides and are unusual in that sense. I honestly don't know to what extent that would be a dealbreaker for most women - I just don't know. If you truly believe that your ears are your biggest obstacle, it might be worth considering an operation to change that. Yes, you have mentioned that you are unwilling to change for women and that they should like you as you are, but from what you are saying they don't. I am sure a woman will eventually like you for your personality and such, but in order to get to that stage, she probably has to find you physically attractive at least initially. Again, I don't know that your ears are behind this, but since you seem to be pretty convinced that is the case, you have a fairly easy workaround...

Originally Posted by Massdebator

Let me start this off by saying that this reply of mine is mainly for the benefit of those users just now involving themselves in this thread. My advice to you is to listen to EEK and let the subject drop, because as she said earlier, "You can't fix stupid." This Franklin guy is either a (very good) troll or he is a person who will be beyond our counsel until he can overcome his own personal demons.

Humble, you're only telling him what he wants to hear. His issues are much more deeply rooted than his physical appearance. He's pinning the blame on his ears, because he is in denial that his attitude is the number one obstacle between him and a date. You said it yourself when you said, "I don't think your physique is what repels women."

Franklin, I will try one last time, and I'm being generous here. Your attitude towards life, friendship, and whatever else may be all well and good, but there's a reason why your female acquaintances aren't comfortable with developing relationships with you beyond friendships. Your attitude, specifically towards sex, romance, and 'all that jazz', is in dire need of adjustment. You objectify women and only think about your goals, your needs, and what you want to get from them. Women (and men for that matter) are wary of this kind of behavior, and for good reason.

To top it all off, you refuse to reflect back upon your own behavior and do some self-examination, nor do you take criticism well (unless, of course, your critics are just spoon feeding you what you want to hear).

Franklin, I don't need you to quote me and respond to this unless you choose to write something other than 'I already did this or that' or 'this doesn't apply to me because I'm ugly.' You've broken down all of our advice into its component parts time and time again. You've told us all that you've "been doing what (we've) told (you) for years." Did anyone ever tell you that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts? You have to do all of what we've offered, all the time, except the surgery. There are cheaper, less dramatic ways to feel less self-conscious and improve your self image, and you certainly don't need the surgery to get a real woman.

I don't see women as sex objects. I see women as people. I get to know women. What I mainly want from a woman is love. I have my standards. I think about what a girl wants. Not every girl is going to be same. However I do them respect. I am always there for my friends men and women. I am sure most girls want to go out. I have a job which will pay for such things. I don't want a girl to pay for our dates.

I think about how I behave. I don't disrespect people. I don't cause drama. I don't get into fights. I don't any enemies. I like to have fun. I am good person. I can also be very serious when dealing with something important. I know when to joke, and when to be serious.

I show women respect. I don't treat them as objects. My friend Clare told me yesterday I make her day because I am funny person. My coworkers who are mostly women joke with me. I never had any problems with them. They tell me to do something, and I will do it right on the spot.

I am not expecting a woman to be perfect. I don't care if she has small breast. Most of the girls I have asked out on dates have small breast. I am not expecting a girl to be perfectly fit. A little belly fat is not a problem, being fat is a problem and I won't give a fat girl the time of day. She may not wear the top brand of clothes. I don't expect a girl to dress pretty everyday because I know most girls don't. All I want is a girl to at least wear clean clothes and be clean.

I get to know women before thinking about liking them more than a friend. I don't say to myself "wow she is hot so I must ask her out". I have never asked out a girl who I did not know. I want to get to know who she is. What are her hobbies? What type of music does she likes? What do she expect from a man? What kind of men has she dated before? What are her goals in school and in life? These are just a sample of things I get to know from women. I don't learn this in one day. I understand that is a working progress. I look for things in women such as kindness, intelligence, humor, ect.

I am not perfect. There are certain things I don't have such as dancing skills, muscle, normal ears, etc. I am not expecting a woman to perfect. She will have her faults as well. I can over look her faults.

I am putting some of the blame on my ears. I have a good reason to do so. Women do make negative comments about my ears. I am not lying to you.

[lnt1103]

forest......trees......and not only can't you fix stupid, you can't talk to those who choose to ignore.

[Brandye]

Franklin,

Please go to one of the sites that allows you to self-publish e-books. Put all this circular crap in it and then forget the URL.

Bu, Please, stop wasting bandwidth at this Board.

[mike99]

I know i'm quoting a post from early in the thread....but I had to.

Originally Posted by RATED-RKOFRANKLIN

I'm not expecting every woman to be perfect. I do expect her to past all of my standards except for the breast size. I have asked out a few girls who have a "B cup". I should have posted this sooner.

You've asked a few girls out that have a b-cup?

Do you have high standards? Sorry but i'm not gonna go through 49 freakin pages.

You should lower your standards stat.

Look on the bright side.......atleast your tall.

[RATED-RKOFRANKLIN]

Originally Posted by mike99

I know i'm quoting a post from early in the thread....but I had to.




You've asked a few girls out that have a b-cup?

Do you have high standards? Sorry but i'm not gonna go through 49 freakin pages.

You should lower your standards stat.

Look on the bright side.......atleast your tall.

Most of the girls who I have asked out have small breast.

These are my standards for you to know. They are not in any particular order, and are equally important.

1. She must be fit. I won't date a fat girl. I keep myself fit, and have respect for my body. I won't let myself go so I refuse date a girl who has let herself go.

2. She must be clean. I won't date someone who is dirty nor always look like she just woke up.

3. I would like a girl to be sweet, kind, loving, smart, ect.

4. We need good communication. She needs to be someone who I can understand, and for her to understand me.

5. She must be a Christian. I want someone with the same beliefs as I do.

Originally Posted by EvilEvilKitten

You really need to go and review ALL of my posts before you accuse me of lying. Stop reading my words through whatever filter you have in your mind and read what was actually typed. Lying is telling a deliberate falsehood. I do not lie. It is not worth my time and effort to lie. If you read what is there - I did not say you were, I said I doubted that what you displayed was not. There is a subtle difference.

Frankly, you're not ugly but your suit is.

And you look like you're 12 years old.

THAT's your problem - you look like someone's kid brother.

Which probably explains your defensive attitude towards us and our advice including your continued confusion between respect and civility.

There is no magic formula, no magic words, and nothing that will improve your situation - you look like a pre-teen guy. Until you've grown into yourself, and have stopped harping about respect/disrespect, you're not going to be successful with women. Need I say this again? Seems I must. What you want is NOT as important as what women want. You do not bait tigers using zucchini. Women do not go out with "kid brothers".

Women lie to save your pride and to keep themselves from getting beaten up. Plain and simple. Yes, to your face they will like you as a person and think you're great, here they're not lying, but when it comes to sex with you - not a chance! - so yes, then they'll lie and say they have to wash their hair or something equally innane or they'll toss out a 'throw-away line' like "you're ugly" in the hopes that ugliness, about which you can do nothing, would be more acceptable to your pride than "hey, kid, you're 12".

Stop acting like this happens only to you - it doesn't. EVERY PERSON will go, is going, and/or has gone through the same crucible - rejection. You either learn to deal with it effectively or you don't. Those who don't live very unhappy lives seeing insults where none were said or meant. Capice?

I've been reading the advice given to me at first. EEK is right. I don't look my age. I am 20 years old, and I look like a pre-teen. Women don't want a man who looks like a kid.

As I said earlier every other area in my life is just fine. I don't have any major problems to worry about. I am drama free. I just have to enjoy what I have for now. Hopefully I will start looking like my age. I dress like someone my age and generation should dress like so now I need the aging process to kick in. I really look so much like I did in elementary school it is not even funny.

[mike99]

Originally Posted by RATED-RKOFRANKLIN

Most of the girls who I have asked out have small breast.

Well....i've asked out chicks with all sorts of boob sizes.

1. She must be fit. I won't date a fat girl. I keep myself fit, and have respect for my body. I won't let myself go so I refuse date a girl who has let herself go.

You could get them in shape.

You should probably open yourself up to some girls that are chubby so you can have more of a field to play.

5. She must be a Christian. I want someone with the same beliefs as I do.

You want to titty fuck a girl....but she's gotta be a Christian?

As long as she was open sexually, it wouldn't matter to me what her beliefs were.

I'm sure as heck not waiting for marriage.

I've been reading the advice given to me at first. EEK is right. I don't look my age. I am 20 years old, and I look like a pre-teen. Women don't want a man who looks like a kid.

You look like a kid at 6'2?

You do realize how many women drool over a guy your height right?

[King Rick]

Originally Posted by mike99

Well....i've asked out chicks with all sorts of boob sizes.




You could get them in shape.

You should probably open yourself up to some girls that are chubby so you can have more of a field to play.



You want to titty fuck a girl....but she's gotta be a Christian?

As long as she was open sexually, it wouldn't matter to me what her beliefs were.

I'm sure as heck not waiting for marriage.





You look like a kid at 6'2?

You do realize how many women drool over a guy your height right?

Girls love a tall guy, but I also believe that tall guy should have some meat on his bones.... Franklin is like 150 pounds soaking wet. Bulk up Frankie boy, eat some cheeseburgers and hit the weights. Not little weights either. I wanna see you put on 20 pounds. Don't say it's impossible, because if your not gaining muscle mass from working out, your doing it wrong.

[nuttychick]

Originally Posted by King Rick

, eat some cheeseburgers and hit the weights. Not little weights either. I wanna see you put on 20 pounds. Don't say it's impossible, because if your not gaining muscle mass from working out, your doing it wrong.

Protien is very important too... and yes it isnt impossible.. I know.. I have increased my weight from dangerously low to toned and damn sexy lol

At my gym there was a note on the wall that read "No one can liberate you... but You" Franklin write that down in a few places
and keep reading it day after day when you are finding it tuff..

a healthy mind, body and soul is the key...

[mike99]

Originally Posted by King Rick

Girls love a tall guy, but I also believe that tall guy should have some meat on his bones.... Franklin is like 150 pounds soaking wet. Bulk up Frankie boy, eat some cheeseburgers and hit the weights. Not little weights either. I wanna see you put on 20 pounds. Don't say it's impossible, because if your not gaining muscle mass from working out, your doing it wrong.

Meh....I see alot of tall skinny guys with hot chicks all the time.

They seem to not have much of a problem.

But if he adds muscle then he might have chicks all over him.