Tips please?

[austnn]

I've been looking at this site for quiet awhile now. I recently made an account because I could use a little help.

Yesterday my buddy set me up with a girl. It was sort of a casual double date.
Here is how the date went.
First I didn't know her until we were introduced. We were at the mall just walking killing time until the movie began. Her and I started to walk ahead and we had a pretty good conversation, a few silences here and there that didn't last longer than 15sec or so.
It was going pretty good.

At the movie we talked until the movie began.
During the movie she was making a lot of different body movements. She would lean close to me and then shorty move away. She would lean in to make a comment and we would be real close. I wanted to make a move but I since I had just met her I didn't want to be to forward.

During the movie she commented on how she has to be home at a certain time, so I figured the date would end there.
After the movie she told me that she could stay. The four of us then went to play laser tag (was a real casual fun date).

After a couple games we decided to go get a bite to eat. She told me she doesn't do mall food. She suggested we go somewhere else, and she offered to drive, although I drove myself and my buddy to the mall.
I agreed. Because I drove my buddy I told him we were leaving to go get something else. That is when he ruined that for me and came with us. So we weren't split up.

We got in separate cars and I followed her to the restaurant.
She made a comment on how she had a good time.
We all had a good conversation.
We said good bye.
As she was getting into her car I asked her for her number. She didn't hesitate to give it to me but as she was she was getting to her car.
Was this possibly a subtle sign? She was just being nice by giving it to me?

When would be a good time to give her a call? I was thinking maybe call her next weekend and ask her out.
She also commented on how she hates when guys text her. She said "if they like me just call". This was earlier in the date, hours before I got her number.

Anyways, sorry for the long post. My mind is tangled with this girl.

[Gorgeous Mistake]

She gave you so many obvious hints. It's not always good to play it safe but I still believe you did the right thing. I would suggest calling her Thursday or Wednesday and ask if she's doing anything that following weekend. I don't necessarily like when a guy takes more than 2 weeks to call, it shows he's trying hard to not look "needy" and also implies callng me was not a priority.. well that's what I think. Just don't take too long.

Your mind shouldn't be tangled with her.. I doubt she was playing any games or being fake.. Don't worry I'm sure she really likes you!

[Mr. Saint]

The worst thing that you could do at this point is over think things, this coming from a guy that over thinks everything. Just go with your first instanced. She gave you all the signs and you got the feeling that she is in to you, so go for it. Just go with Gorgeous said, I concur.

[austnn]

I'm crushin on her. When I get a crush I tend to over think things and I miss all the hints.
Thanks Gorgeous. I was thinking Thursday would be good. I'm not working so I thought I would give her a call and see if she wants to do something casual. Ice Cream, and maybe a sports park (putt putt, batting cage, etc.)
Would a second date be alright to make a move, although we had just met the weekend before?

The girls I dated in the past were girls I knew for awhile, so it was easier for me to make these decisions.
This was my first blind date.

Mr. Saint, I do the same. I over think everything. Kills me the majority of the time. Thanks for the advice.

[Mr. Saint]

Last semester there was this amazingly beautiful girl in my English class. I introduced my self one day after class near the end of the semester; well actually she already knew who I was for some reason. Anyways, I walked her back to her place a few times over next couple of weeks and eventually asked for her number. I called her a few days later, we talked for a long time then I asked her out. She said that she was busy the next few weeks but to call her later. Over the next couple of weeks I over thought everything and convinced myself she was not in to me and never called her again. I really regret it now and wish I had fallowed up. Moral of the story is this, always go with your first instinct, have confidence in your self, and never over thing it.

[Gorgeous Mistake]

You should let her pick. If she says "I really don't know, you pick", offer some choices if she still doesn't know then choose. Look if you're feeling if, go for it. I would recommend go for a kiss on the forehead ONLY. Or do the kiss on the forehead and then later that night... go for an actual kiss.

[ducktales]

I would say go for it. I remember crushing on some girl from a class of mine a couple of years ago. Was me, her and her friend. We'd work on homework a lot and study for tests together, but me and one of the girls had some sort of "thing" where, at least I believe, there were feelings going both ways.

We'd walk back from class together, I'd walk her back to her dorm after we worked on hw if it was just us too, and even if it was both of them. She'd call and get together with me earlier, we'd have coffee together, and I remember her asking to check out my dorm room(was in the middle of the day but I mean really most dorm rooms are the same) . However, I was in the same sort of situation:
1) I over thought everything. I kept thinking if I should go for it or when should I go for it, and stuff like that, there'd be obvious openings and by the time I had thought it through it passed.

2) A lot of the times I thought it was just gonna be me and her doing stuff, her friend would tag a long or I'd see someone and they'd tag along because me and this girl weren't really anything other than friends.

3) I found out I was about to break the bro code. One of my best friends, known this guy since pre-school, liked this girl. I know they liked each other but we/they ended up at different schools. I think that guy started dating some girl and my crush figured that there wasn't a chance for them, but I didn't want to break the bro code, at least with this bro.

Looking back its funny, because I realize all the openings she gave me and all the chances I thought about taking but never did.

This stuff happens for a reason though and I had the same sort of situation with my current gf, before we started dating obviously. Almost all the same conditions applied, even the bro code. differs slightly:
--A friend of mine at this university liked her, but the feelings weren't mutual, and they had even gotten into this big thing when he told her he was in love with her, and she should get over this other guy that dumped her and start dating him and blah blah blah. She sort of stopped talking to him for an entire semester, only she felt guilty(she's probably the sweetest girl ever) and decided to start talking to him again.

Both this guy and that girl were my friends, I met them at the exact same time, and when I started having feelings for this girl it was after she and he had that incident and he had sort of stopped hanging out with us and all of our friends so I said screw the bro code and went for it.

Sorry for the rant but my point its, don't overthink things. If you think she's giving you openings and stuff like that she probably is just go for it. Worst case scenario she's not into you as much and you both move on.

[austnn]

Thanks Gorgeous Mistake. I'll take your advice for letting her decide.
The main problem I have. I don't know when to take advantage of the oppurtunities I have to go for the kiss, when I make an attempt just comes off awkward. Problem I always had. Never was good at it.

ducktales and saint. Thanks for the stories and advice.
I've had similar regrets in my past as well.

[EvilEvilKitten]

No, no ,no! Do not call her up and be all wienie asking her what she wants to do.

Call her Thursday and ask her out for ice cream - while you're there FIND OUT what she likes to do. Ask questions that cannot be answered yes or no and listen to the answers. Pay attention. Get her email or IM address at this point. Give her your telephone number after she has divulged this further information.

The rule is not to touch her until she has touched you. Keep your touching above the waist and non-sexual as is possible. After she kisses you then you can move on to something more aggressive.

Then wait two days or three days later and invite her out on a date based upon what she has said she likes to do. At this point there should be a kiss in the date somewhere.

If no touches and then no kiss - call it all off.
You want her to show some interest in you before you get all "crushing".

NO MORE DOUBLE DATES - that was a serious error on your part. Don't do it again.
BTW no more calls to "just hang out". If you want her to take you seriously, you have to treat this a bit more seriously. Specific times, places, and events - only. As regards sex, you may show your interest but remember to follow her lead. If she wants you, she'll let you know.

[Gorgeous Mistake]

It was a blind date set up by his and her friend.