Hi everyone. My bf and I are ready to have sex for the first time, and we've been researching various birth control methods. We're not worried about STDs since we're both virgins, but since I don't want hormones in my body and we can't afford a copper IUD yet, we're going to stick with condoms. So here's my question:
What's the best way to put a condom on an uncircumcised penis? Most of the things that I've read say to retract the foreskin, roll the condom on, and then push the foreskin back up so that it's still mobile and can work properly. That sounds fine, except that it seems like pushing the foreskin back up would cause to condom to slide up quite a bit onto the shaft (my bf has a long foreskin; it covers just about the entire glans when erect), causing it to slip off during intercourse. And we don't want that. :p But with the majority of the world being uncircumcised, and condoms being so popular, I'm sure there's a way to do it properly. I'm probably just making it more complicated than it is. Thanks in advance. ^_^


Don't worry about the foreskin, during foreplay it will naturally roll back to a comfortable place. Just put the condom straight on it. I never had any troubles.
An interesting situation:
[QUOTE=jadetigress;202816]Hi everyone. My bf and I are ready to have sex for the first time, and we've been researching various birth control methods. We're not worried about STDs since we're both virgins, but since I don't want hormones in my body and we can't afford a copper IUD yet, we're going to stick with condoms.
[COLOR="Navy">Why not use a diaphragm and spermicide in addition to condoms? At the very least use a spermicide in you along with a condom. If you cannot afford to protect yourself, then I would think more than twice about having intercourse. [/COLOR]
So here's my question:
What's the best way to put a condom on an uncircumcised penis? Most of the things that I've read say to retract the foreskin, roll the condom on,
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...and then push the foreskin back up so that it's still mobile and can work properly. That sounds fine, except that it seems like pushing the foreskin back up would cause to condom to slide up quite a bit onto the shaft (my bf has a long foreskin; it covers just about the entire glans when erect), causing it to slip off during intercourse. And we don't want that. :p But with the majority of the world being uncircumcised, and condoms being so popular, I'm sure there's a way to do it properly. I'm probably just making it more complicated than it is.
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Unless there is something I do not understand, a retracted foreskin should stay put with the condom on. It fits rather tightly so I do not see how it can move inside it.
BTW, I would not consider his foreskin to be long. Long would be if it completely covers the Glans and extends out in front with a straw-like extension.
The nerves in the Glans of an uncut male are vastly more sensitive than they are in men who have been circumcised. I do not know how much sensitivity is lost with the foreskin retracted and a condom on. If he looses a lot, try lubricating the Glans only before rolling the condom on. I wouldn't even attempt to move the foreskin forward after a condom is on. There is no point to it.
Shucks, if you want to run your own experiment, have him wear a condom and then lubricate the palm and fingers of your hand, form an open fist, and let him move back and forth within as you loosely grasp his penis, checking every so often to see what is happening inside the condom.[/COLOR]
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My partner is uncircumcised, all he does is make sure the foreskin is back and slide it on. No problem. It doesn't move it stays put back. Don't ask me how to put it on, its his job. :D
A bit of looseness at the end is desireable. It allows the penis to move a little in the condom adding to natural feeling and it allows room for the ejaculate. Just make certain that it is rolled completely against his body so that it does not get inside you and roll off.
Curious,
I recommend women learn this skill. The only way we can be certain it is done right is if we do it ourselves. And I always guide them in giving a lst second check that it is all the way on.
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Curious,
I recommend women learn this skill. The only way we can be certain it is done right is if we do it ourselves. And I always guide them in giving a last second check that it is all the way on.[/QUOTE]
We only use condoms when he wants to last longer, because we've both been tested and I have an IUD. So its not really a big deal if it breaks or something. If we ever break up I'll learn, but until then its not really necessary since we're not using it for birth or STD control.
> > Don't ask me how to put it on, its his job
> I recommend women learn this skill. The only way we can be certain it is done right is if we do it ourselves. And I always guide them in giving a lst second check that it is all the way on.
What a loving act it can be when a woman lubes her man's Glans, tweaks his sensibilities a bit, then rolls it on s l o w l y making somewhat of a minor "production" out of the process. (The same can be said for a man applying spermicide to a diaphragm and then inserting it.)
For the guy who experiences difficulty remaining firm during the process, having her tweak the nerves in the shaft while rolling can do much to preserve his erection, keep him at the peak of responsiveness, and, all the while she is showing him love and interest and concern and involvement. Come to think of it, this works anytime any place, regardless.
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For the guy who experiences difficulty remaining firm during the process, having her tweak the nerves in the shaft while rolling can do much to preserve his erection, keep him at the peak of responsiveness, and, all the while she is showing him love and interest and concern and involvement. Come to think of it, this works anytime any place, regardless.[/QUOTE]
I just touch myself and moan a bit, works the same way. Whenever I try to help it seems like a hindrance and a horny breaker, because it goes on much quicker and easier if he does it. *shrugs* :)
[QUOTE=dancingdoc2;202819]Why not use a diaphragm and spermicide in addition to condoms? At the very least use a spermicide in you along with a condom. If you cannot afford to protect yourself, then I would think more than twice about having intercourse.[/QUOTE]
We plan on using a spermicide along with the condom. Sorry I didn't mention that. :p We've talked about using a contraceptive sponge in addition to the condom as well. If we don't use that, then we'll use a different spermicide, but right now we're thinking that the sponge has a pretty high efficacy rate just by itself, so combined with a condom it should work out pretty well for us. I'm pretty paranoid about the condom breaking, even though I know it doesn't happen often, so there's no way I would use one without some sort of backup. :p
We're both saving up money for a copper IUD, and we're going to split the cost. But being broke college students, we obviously don't have several hundred dollars to spend right away, and probably won't for awhile. As for the hormones, I was going to go that route even though I've never really liked the idea of putting extra hormones in my body, until I actually started taking the pill. My body didn't like it very much, so I stopped after a month. Yeast infections, vomiting all the time...lots of fun stuff like that.
Also, thanks for the replies everyone. My bf is supposed to be buying condoms to experiment with on his own so he can figure out the best way for them to work for him, but I do plan on helping out whenever I see him. We're in a bit of a long distance relationship, so I can't help out as much as I'd like.
[quote=jadetigress;202965]We plan on using a spermicide along with the condom. Sorry I didn't mention that. :p We've talked about using a contraceptive sponge in addition to the condom as well. If we don't use that, then we'll use a different spermicide, but right now we're thinking that the sponge has a pretty high efficacy rate just by itself, so combined with a condom it should work out pretty well for us. I'm pretty paranoid about the condom breaking, even though I know it doesn't happen often, so there's no way I would use one without some sort of backup. :p
We're both saving up money for a copper IUD, and we're going to split the cost. But being broke college students, we obviously don't have several hundred dollars to spend right away, and probably won't for awhile. As for the hormones, I was going to go that route even though I've never really liked the idea of putting extra hormones in my body, until I actually started taking the pill. My body didn't like it very much, so I stopped after a month. Yeast infections, vomiting all the time...lots of fun stuff like that.
Also, thanks for the replies everyone. My bf is supposed to be buying condoms to experiment with on his own so he can figure out the best way for them to work for him, but I do plan on helping out whenever I see him. We're in a bit of a long distance relationship, so I can't help out as much as I'd like.[/quote]
In College there is no "Woman's Health Service" covered through your tuition? Also look for your local Planned parenthood location....http://www.Plannedparenthood.org, search using your zip for college & the same as either of your home Zip codes for a site. Also contact them...they will refer you if there is no site near you.
Excuse me, but while you have an issue with "putting hormones into your body", you say you DON'T have an issue putting a reactive metal into your uterus?!?! Those hormones are the same ones that your body would be putting out if you were pregnant hence they are more natural than sliding copper, to which you might be allergic, inside of you. It seems more and more women are having issues with BCPs through misunderstanding them than from any real problems. Check with your gyn there at school and get the latest information.
Well at least she talked with her gyn. *sigh* Yet millions have no problems whatsoever with them. I'll leave this one to Brandye, Doc, and Sera. They have more patience.
[QUOTE=EvilEvilKitten;203104]Excuse me, but while you have an issue with "putting hormones into your body", you say you DON'T have an issue putting a reactive metal into your uterus?!?! Those hormones are the same ones that your body would be putting out if you were pregnant hence they are more natural than sliding copper, to which you might be allergic, inside of you. It seems more and more women are having issues with BCPs through misunderstanding them than from any real problems. Check with your gyn there at school and get the latest information.[/QUOTE]
I do have an issue with putting hormones in my body, but despite that I tried the pill anyway, and my body reacted horribly, so I stopped after a month. And after talking with both my gyn and my friends who've used the pill, I found that I wasn't the only one who had problems with it. Yes, sticking a piece of metal in my body isn't natural, but from the things I've read and the people I've talked to, I'm finding less problems with copper IUDs than hormones.
Besides, I only need it for a few years until my bf gets his vasectomy.
Yeah a few things...you can try different hormonal pills...I mean my friend took almost 4 months before she found the right one for her...were talking 4 different hormonal pills here.
And I thought a majority of the world WAS circumcised lol.
You really should just stick with condoms for the time being...I mean sex is something that takes a lot of responsibility...
I mean if he doesnt take care of hiimself, then what...I mean if you get pregnant then what? I mean its all on your head because your the one who is suppposed to be on the IUD...
First one cycle of BCPs are not enough for predict any outcome...it takes a few months and at times switching the pills to find which one works for you. An IUD is not a big deal, you get more cramping [during your period] which will generally subside within months. Some of the IUD's have hormones as well.
Now here is the part I do not get....you are in college. Why would you have your b/f have a vasectomy? Any permanent form of sterilization should wait until either of you are older & I find it odd ANY doc would even think about it. Why do you not just go any have your tubes tied...it's your body you are altering forever.
This is insane. Why not just have a Nuvaring inserted? Would that not make much more sense?????? It sounds so odd...I don't want extra hormones but my BOYFRIEND [not your husband with two kids with you] can get fixed so he can NEVER have kids. All because off a mild discomfort adjusting to a pill? Fix it then and have a tubal-ligation yourself then you will not be opposing your not wanting hormones in your body.
Some day you will wish you had the hormones....
[QUOTE=sera300;203255]First one cycle of BCPs are not enough for predict any outcome...it takes a few months and at times switching the pills to find which one works for you. An IUD is not a big deal, you get more cramping [during your period] which will generally subside within months. Some of the IUD's have hormones as well.
Now here is the part I do not get....you are in college. Why would you have your b/f have a vasectomy? Any permanent form of sterilization should wait until either of you are older & I find it odd ANY doc would even think about it. Why do you not just go any have your tubes tied...it's your body you are altering forever.
This is insane. Why not just have a Nuvaring inserted? Would that not make much more sense?????? It sounds so odd...I don't want extra hormones but my BOYFRIEND [not your husband with two kids with you] can get fixed so he can NEVER have kids. All because off a mild discomfort adjusting to a pill? Fix it then and have a tubal-ligation yourself then you will not be opposing your not wanting hormones in your body.
Some day you will wish you had the hormones....[/QUOTE]
Marriage is in the near future (in a few years when he's done with school), and I'm not making him get a vasectomy. He has neurofibromatosis and he doesn't want to risk passing it on. He's thought long and hard about it, and while it does bother him somewhat that he'll never be able to have kids, he thinks it's for the best. I don't mind either way since I don't care if I have kids or not, but we've discussed it and he knows that I support him.
So no, it's not "hormones are evil, so I'm going to make my boyfriend permanently alter himself just so I don't have to take them". I'm not that much of a jerk. If hormones were my only option for birth control, then yeah, I'd deal with the horrible side effects. But since they aren't, then there's no reason that I should have to take them if I don't want to.
This is part of why we've waited so long to have sex in the first place, because we're taking the time to talk to medical professionals (which would include my brother, who is a doctor, and my sister-in-law, who is a pharmacist) and do our own research to try to educate ourselves on all of our options, and get the whole BC thing sorted out and in place before we even attempt to have sex.
Understood; I see you are not being the wicked witch here---past experience there has been a few--much apologies.
Have you both seriously gone through genetic counseling? Him? And them you? Find out the real percentage of possible inheritance? Is it dominant or not?
Think about it....be careful.