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Bestiality - ok or no?

Judging by the incest topic this should prove interesting.

I'm curious what people think of bestiality. Something you like? Are intrigued by? Think is nasty? Anyone here ever done it and care to share about their experience?

Doing a quick search I see that states in the US range from having no laws on it to having it classified as a felony. Though its illegal in quite a few places and considered immoral by most people, there seem to be quite a few porn sites devoted to it. Of course its impossible to know how common it really is, since the humans probably won't talk about it and the animal can't.

So why is it generally considered to be immoral/wrong? Just the whole idea of sex outside your species? If you think that animals have or should have rights, then I guess it would basically be rape. (in that case though, what about male animals with human females?) Obviously it's genetically impossible for there to be any offspring, so that wouldn't be an issue. And along those lines, I've read several things that suggested that some animals will seek out humans as sex partners.

Personally for me its one of those things that if you wanna do it... great, just don't let me know. Though I think it will get interesting with the various ways we're developing to communicate with animals. But anyway, I've never done it and don't really have any interest in it- human females are more than enough for me

ThinkingOfLife

hahahaha ok for real now that was my last post

ThinkingOfLife

haha oh wait, that couldnt have been my last post, cause the last post i did saying that was my last post, was in fact my last post, so i was wrong haha. ok for real this is my last post...PEACE

ThinkingOfLife

HAHAHAHA i just reported myself to the moderator. maybe he'll kick me off. HAHAHAHAH ISNT THAT FUNNY EVERYONE. HAHAHAHAH....hah...he..mmmmmmm.

Greendale

Beastiliality is disgusting and it should be illegal because it is considered forcing animals to have sex as "rape" and "abuse".

I was browsing porn sites on the internet once and I accidentily came across a beastiality site. I saw a short video of a woman giving a male dog a blowjob and it was disgusting, I clicked out of the video pretty fast and deleted it. I don't see how anyone would want to do that to animals. The animals probably don't even like it either.

In2it

WOW!
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.....I know this is going to stir up a hell of a lot of controversy but here goes…
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.....I had been up to 5 pages of the bestiality thread when I decided to jump in.
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.....My wife and I have been married 25 years & when I married her I was her first, & boy was that obvious. My wife & I have worked together at our business 5 miles from our home and we are by each other’s side day after day after day. I cannot remember when we have left each other to take time away from each other because we have been so much in love. There is a reason I state this.
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.....This incident happened after we were married 12 years. My wife & I were having sex (doggy style – on the floor) I kicked a drink with my foot & went to pick it up before it got all over the carpet. I, (we), didn't see our dog in the room at all. As soon as I dismounted and turned to pick up the drink is when our dog assumed the position that I was in, startling the hell out of my wife with his big paws around her waste. He immediately started entering her and humping her. Admittedly, I am not as large in that area as I would like to be like many of you have seen in porn or in the ‘whateverTube.com’ videos that are out there. I am only 5.5” in length and only 2.5” in dia. when erect. At first she let out a hefty “oooo” then I turned around to see what happened & saw the dog going to town. I went to take the dog off & my wife said that this was a very satisfying and fulfilling feeling & not to stop the dog. She said that she had never felt so much inside her, touching her inner walls so completely and being able to go so deep as to feel him touching the entrance of her uterus. She was actually enjoying the dog being in her, and I, seeing her orgasm multiple times like never before. She told me that she was able to feel his warm gush with each stroke on her inner walls. The dog is about 2” longer & at least 1-1.5” larger in dia. than I am when erect. Neither one of us had ever had the dog in the room before this time nor has she ever had the chance to “teach” the dog this trick. The dog and my wife enjoyed themselves immensely even when he knotted her. This is something that nether one of us ever imagined, seen, or experienced up to this point.
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.....After this incident we discovered beasttube.com on the Internet, which is now debunked, and found that people from all walks of life enjoyed this lifestyle quite often. Young girls would learn about how to have sex when they were at quite a young age by practicing on their pets what they would have to do with the male counterpart giving and receiving intercourse & oral gratification. The animals not only enjoyed this but the young girls did so quite often; even some doing these acts on a daily or weekly basis when they knew they would be alone in the house or at bedtime in a closed & locked bedroom. There had also been married women who wanted to be faithful to their husbands and not wanting to have sexual relationship with males because either the husband is obese, or is to often too tired, or he is a serviceman in another country away from his bride. They would actually get their needs met by the family dog. This was gratifying to both parties and without feeling like she cheated on the husband.
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.....So either by accident or intentional as with the young girls or the married ladies from all over the world, this type of sexual enjoyment is happening whether many of you realize it or not. You may have a neighbor that is enjoying this type of sexual enjoyment or may even have a spouse that is doing this to remain faithful to you. So don’t walk around with blinders on in life. The next time you see a lady or girl with their dog of any decent size, think that they too may be more than just friends.
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.....You are probably questioning if my wife and I have continued in this practice or have even gone further into other things with our dog. I will say that life has been much more interesting after that night. We do not get into sharing partners (swapping) or threesomes, or orgies. Nor do we condone rape, incest, or individuals that entertain pedophile activities but if you are not forcing an animal or inflicting pain to an animal and the animal is a willing participant in your sexual freedom than I can not see the harm in this. Yes, I will hear a lot of Ewwwwww! Going on but hey! This is the life style of some people, like it or not.

Aphrodite_66

I know this is an old thread and I am just bringing up old shit but just curious.Why the fuck would someone want to have sex with an animal? Is it that whole taboo thing or being able to dominate something.It is no different to having sex with a child in my eyes.They can't say no and it scares the crap out of them.

I rehash this topic as I was chatting on the internet with a potential female playmate the other night and she said that she taught her dog to screw her from when he was a puppy.She sent me some pics as I said that I was curious to know about it.Oh man she was sucking his doggy cock and he was banging her like crazy.I may have been curious but not so as to take her up on her offer to join her.Let's just say I won't be her playmate.

I don't judge others for their preferences,hey if it floats their boat,that is good for them.But if they harm an innocent animal in the process or they themselves get seriously hurt WTF! .I googled a few sites just to see why the attraction to this practice.OMG! Women putting a snake up their vagina,sucking and penetrating a dog and horse dick both vaginally and anally.And pigs,cows,you name it.Men screwing female dogs and I want to know WHY!! To me it is just not the ethical and moral thing to do.We should be taking care of our animals not the other way around (them taking care of us).

I have a female Jack Russel X and my partner has a male JRX.I just can't picture him or me doing that to our K9 companion.

Is this some form of sickness like peodophilia?I wonder.

xXxIrAsLaDyXxX

eeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww hellllllllllllllll nooooooooooooo

experimenter

Just wanted to add something to the "human looking" chimp. They had a show about that chimp (they called him Oliver I think) on the Discovery channel not too long ago. He was in fact, just a chimp, no part of him was human.

On another note, I saw a show once where this guy wanted to marry his pony. It was nasty! This guy openly admited to having sex with his horse. EWWWW!

I don't get the reasoning behind the concept of having sex with an animal. I mean come on, are these people so ....whatever, that they can't make it with a human??!! I mean no wonder we have all these diseases and everything. I mean didn't they say that AIDS came about because someone screwed a monkey or something??

oberon

[QUOTE=Quote (experimenter @ July 06 2004,21:41)]Just wanted to add something to the "human looking" chimp.  They had a show about that chimp (they called him Oliver I think) on the Discovery channel not too long ago.  He was in fact, just a chimp, no part of him was human.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure if this is the same program I saw, but I seem to remember there was no conclusive evidence either way.

However, one thing all the scientist agreed on was that a chimp/human hybrid was possible.  No one had any evidence except rumor that it had already happened.

sera300

The poor dog...I hope you do not let a donkey or a horse in the house. I keep my male dogs out of the bedroom, or they sneak under the bed b/c of the noise...the female will "stare" at the act...she appears sort of confused. Cats? Will just walk on your back. As much as you appear to enjoy it; I see this as no different then using pets for fighting/entertainment. If the intent was to have sex w/a pet; why do we have members of sexual orientation? I'd rather have my spouse "doing" the neighbor then our dog....

Additionally, I have had some very large breed dogs & while giving them a dog biscuit--they tend to let it all hang out. They don't appear to be nearly as large as a human.

BonzaiBoy00

i personally find bestiality very hot. i can't seem to watch porn with a human male. seeing one just turns me off. so it's either female masturbation, or bestiality for me. i also have furry fetish.

curious_woman

[QUOTE=sera300;205518]
Additionally, I have had some very large breed dogs & while giving them a dog biscuit--they tend to let it all hang out. They don't appear to be nearly as large as a human.[/QUOTE]

Yeah...theres no way a dog can be bigger than a man. Simply because humans have the second highest penis-to-body ratio in the animal kingdom. (The first is some sort of whale I forget which)

Not my thing at all, but I'm not sure if I consider bestiality animal abuse...of course they don't do it for pleasure, but in a case like that there was no forcing or hurting the animal. So I don't know if you CAN consider it inhumane when its no harm? :confused:

Bewitching

shit ThinkingofLife, you really just PROVED just how much attention you crave = a self centred prick.  You're reputation on this board has dropped significantly - you poor thing.  And no, i didn't go and ask everyone, it only takes common sense to realise it.  You've just gotta have the last say in, dont you? Prove us wrong otherwise...go on, i dare you.

As for it being your fantasy - apologies for not getting it correct.  Don't dwell on it either - you should be satisfied i even apologised to such a rude, inconsiderate poster.  Key word = poster, not person because as you said i dont know you.  I hope this has covered my previous posts, also.

Ok, for the rest of it - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you crack me up big time.  Sorry if your words were meant to bring me down, but they just made me laugh straight away!! As for showing my ignorance by saying "i bet you haven't told anyone" - HAHAHA, that's just even funnier.  i must be ignorant for betting on black rather than red on the roulette table, too, if that's how you wanna look at it.  This thread is worthless? Than piss off already and stop craving the attention you negatively receive!!

The one thing i praise you on is that you're not ashamed of who you are - congratulations. That's all that matters.

ohhhhhhhhh seriously, i'm still laughing at how much you've gotten your knickers in a knot - i think this board is too unhealthy for you now, best leave before your blood pressure rises beyond your fantasies....

LittleFury

Hmmm, I think I'll leave my cat to peacefully molest his tuffed toy of Scooby Doo and do bad bad things to my bf intead. I love animals...but not in that way.

sera300

I just see multiple discrepancies in the post...to exemplify; she did not notice the soft fur and the claws sunk into her? And to hit a hole? How does the male dog find the correct one??? Breeding of dogs is tough. since they get carried away...so to penetrate a woman would be a difficult shot. As they mount a female dog; getting it right is tough and they would tend to lick the smell first. A male dog will push their mate or non-mate to the ground first...It's just really odd to me! Nearly unbelievable since she felt the dog "filled her"????:eek:

[quote=curious_woman;205523]Yeah...theres no way a dog can be bigger than a man. Simply because humans have the second highest penis-to-body ratio in the animal kingdom. (The first is some sort of whale I forget which)

Not my thing at all, but I'm not sure if I consider bestiality animal abuse...of course they don't do it for pleasure, but in a case like that there was no forcing or hurting the animal. So I don't know if you CAN consider it inhumane when its no harm? :confused:[/quote]

mrcapone34

Im not saying im for it or aginst it. Most people think its nasty because they were brought up that way. It is a normal thing in alot of cultures. It is a fact that some animals do have sex for pleasure. humans, dogs, dolphins, horses to name a few. I think if a woman has a sexual incounter with a male dog, its not harming him he is willingly having intercourse with her. Guys on the other hand forcing a female dog to have sex is harming and should be considered rape. Animals are different then humans in that way. If a male dog or other animal doesnt want to do there not going to and you cannot make them.

experimenter

oberon Posted on July 06 2004,22:19
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Quote (experimenter @ July 06 2004,21:41)
Just wanted to add something to the "human looking" chimp. They had a show about that chimp (they called him Oliver I think) on the Discovery channel not too long ago. He was in fact, just a chimp, no part of him was human.

I'm not sure if this is the same program I saw, but I seem to remember there was no conclusive evidence either way.

At the very end of the program they announced the results of a new DNA test performed on "Oliver". His DNA strain was that of your ordinary average chimp, or monkey or whatever he was. And I do remember a scientist claiming that he had been told that a cross breed had been attempted, but that the pregnancy had been terminated before the hybrid could become viable. They had no proof of this, just as you said, rumors.

Tessie

I agree it is totally gross and very wrong. It is as bad as doing a child or rape.

cyclefreak

Bestiality, NO WAY!

WallyLlama

Gee, a really intense fight and nobody is blaming me for starting or encouraging it!!!

How the heck did this happen?

LOL

wendybimumuk

[QUOTE=Quote (Vixen916 @ Sep. 12 2003,15:56)]I heard about a lady who put peanut butter on her vagina and walked around her house calling for her dog. It had been her last day of work at her job and people were throwing her a surprise party. She walked into a room full of people, bare assed naked calling for her dog.[/QUOTE]
LOL, sounds like an urban myth to me, like the man who's pretty secretary took him home, said "I'll be back in a minute" as she went into the bedroom, so he strips off.
Then the bedroom door opens, and his wife and kids come out with a 'happy birthday' banner.

Bestiality? I do have a friend who claims her cat helps her orally. Christ almighty, when a cat licks you it nearly takes the top layer of skin off anyway.
No way would I let it near such a sensitive area.

But, chacun a son gout.

mason1

Bad, bad, bad, bad. Bad thought, bad idea, just bad.....
I was in Mexico a few years back and unfortunatley saw a "donkey show." I felt sorry for the girl, but I REALLY felt sorry for the donkey....He never had a choice.

llovell

I don't know what truly lies behind it, but I can't escape the feeling that the absense of consent is a contributing factor.

A pet that doesn't know what's happening but trusts you may appear to enjoy it. So it's a partner you never have to bother seducing. Comfort that always comes and is unlikely to reject you. So it's sort of lazy, and sort of lonely and pathetic at the same time.

There was a guy on the art site I go to who thought his dog was his girlfreind and uploaded love poems and graphic descriptions of their "sex life". It struck me as the behaviour of a person who must have a very low opinion of himself, if he thinks that an easy relationship without consent is the most he is capable or deserving of.

As for people who go beyond their pet... I don't know.

ken2001

I think its sick and would never do it. Not for all the money on this planet or any other planet.

HardNgood

this thread is a COMPLETE JOKE right!!:cool:...jajaja...I kicked over a drink and the dawg jumped my wife(NOT MY WIFE dammit...the earlier posters wife and his story)...ROFLMAOPIMP...I'm sure I read this story in Penthouse a 100yrs ago by Xavier Hollander..bloody hell! next you'll be writing about a threesome with your family pet...not sure from where you are from...but JUST go back there:rolleyes:

Vixen916

either way if it is a myth or not it's disgusting because some people do it. one of my old neighbors was wearing sandals and his cat licked his toes. he said something along the lines of how he could see why people like feet fetishes and he said the cat's tongue was doing more to him then tickling... EW EW EW how can someone get turned on by a cat??? ew

Bewitching

I can see SexKitty's enjoying the post!! haha

Nope, definately not for me.

But as far as the "cat licking toes" is concerned, it's not so much the cat turning him on, it's the feeling of the tongue on his toes which have great nerve endings resulting in a tickle, not only on the toes, but all over the body.....and more....i'm sure if he used lube and a feather duster he'd get a similar effect (no promises on that one - i have not tried it!!!).

i am IN LOVE with animals, you have no idea, but beastiality? That's too much disrespect for the animal/human world. If god wanted us to have sex with animals, he would've made Rover and Eve or Adam and Etchy. Animals and humans go together for care, nurturing and company - and by no means do they cross the employee/management promotion boundary!! (i hope you get my drift!).

Who knows, maybe one day when we have high-tech gadgets to detect what animals are saying, we can pick the ones that want humans, get the humans that want animals and send 'em off to invade another planet and they can live their own world. But the world we live it is man-woman, woman-woman, man-man - nothing else! (okay sex toys and everyone!)

Bewitching

I'm sure it can be arranged ...

Oh, as well as mike

mommabear8702

The only way I think beastiality would be ok is if the animal looked at you and said yes. Until the day that this type of sex can be consentual between 2 .....um...species then it is totally wrong.

cyclefreak

Bestiality is just totally wrong, in my opinion.

big916

I can't say why people think about it to me it is rather odd. I think male animals with women are more accepted, because they are actually participating in the act like this woman you describe aphro. In some odd way I think people enjoy seeing and experiencing pets be pleasured like us. Perhaps because they are companions in our lives. When it comes to penetrating an animal I believe that is sick and should be considered rape.

duckie

I have to agree TOTALLY disgusting. Why would anyone ever even think that having sex with an animal is remotely okay?!
I mean you worry about STDs with humans just think about what you'd have to worry about with animals?

disseff87
wtf_r_u_thinking

well...i think its immoral and just plain fucking wrong but i dont think of it as abuse but that dont make it right. sorry bro but you should invest in a pump or somthing man cuz if the dog is "bigger" then you there is a big problem with that,and thats just some fucked up shit right there you let the dog continue?!?!? what the fuck where u thinking? why not just let your wife bang the neighbor or somthing not the dog,they dont get any plessure from it and i just think personaly that its wrong.

sera300

[quote=HardNgood;205547]this thread is a COMPLETE JOKE right!!:cool:...jajaja...I kicked over a drink and the dawg jumped my wife...ROFLMAOPIMP...I'm sure I read this story in Penthouse a 100yrs ago by Xavier Hollander..bloody hell! next you'll be writing about a threesome with your family pet...not sure from where you are from...but JUST go back there:rolleyes:[/quote]Have a new wife? Or still with the other one? LOL!

claire

well for me id never try it 1 becuase i find it repulsive and 2 becuase id only ever have sex or oral or anything with someone i loved. ok i guess you can love ur pets but not in the way you can love another human.

..... that is the sickest thing in the world, i duno what kinda sicko would do that to an innocent animal... like really they can't voice their opinons like we can... what the hell is wrong with people who do that.. is the questions i ask my self.. when i think about htat.

mels'A'flirt

beastiality is just wrong. gross.
i was in a game room on pogo a few weeks ago, playing some game, and 2 chicks were talking about someone they both knew..and 1 of them was saying how so & so found her husband outside having SEX w/the rott..(im assuming it was a female? lol). so dude had his dick in a dog.
the thought of THAT just makes me want to pray to the porclin god.

could you imagine getting caught having sexual relations w/an animal..getting taken to jail & some dude named butch asks you what you are in for..and you say "f**king my dog" lol

phandler

definitly deviant, and very grose
but iv seen videos of chicks getting ploughed by a horse.... and well... i was kinda neet to see her take it so hard, like no male porn star could ever do

tacosandbattons

Thinking of life... EVERYTHING YOU SAY i beieve... ALTHOUGH i would never do beastiality ... and it isnt against my RELIGION cause i dont have one... But as far as i know ... These people havent REALLY TRIED beastiality and arent willing to .. so to act as if they know nothing about it and you do is a little close minded... I didnt read much just that your an asshole... AND THE BABY thing was a GOOD example but the example is a BABY DOESNT KNOW BETTER just like a DOG!!! so abusing WOULD BE THE RIGHT ANSWER...

HardNgood

[QUOTE=sera300;205561]Have a new wife? Or still with the other one? LOL![/QUOTE]

That's just nasty to insinuate that!! :(:mad::mad:LOL...I was quoting what some doofus had written a few posts earlier...I'll go edit my original post...grrrrrrrrrrrrr

oberon

[QUOTE=Quote (mike @ Sep. 11 2003,06:15)]Obviously it's genetically impossible for there to be any offspring, so that wouldn't be an issue.[/QUOTE]
I know this post isn't going to be entirely on topic, but just something to think about.

I recently, within the last six months or so, saw a program on chimpanzees.  They discussed the fact that we share 99% of our DNA, and there is a reasonable chance that our two species could interbreed.  There was even speculation that this may have already occurred!  There is a case of a chimp that had many human characteristics including always walking erect.  Even chimps that have been trained to do this can't do it for long; it is physically uncomfortable for them.  This chimp did it all the time.  There have even been rumors in the scientific community that there have been invitro fertilizations between humans and chimpanzees.  Of course, these experiments were not allowed to come to term but the possibility is there.

Allowing that a child actually came of such a union, it begs the questions- If we are that closely related, is it right for us to use them as experimental creatures?  Would that child be human or animal?  If you believe humans have souls, would this child, who would be half animal?  If you don't believe in abortion, would you see the destruction of an invitro human/chimp fetus as abortion?  Would it be murder?

As far as the whole bestiality question, I would guess it would depend on your view of animal rights.  How would you know that the creature involved is actually willing?  Seems too much like rape to me.  Makes me think of an old joke though:

Why do cowboys wear button-fly jeans?

Because the sound of a zipper causes the cattle to stampede!

sera300

[quote=HardNgood;205590]That's just nasty to insinuate that!! :(:mad::mad:LOL...I was quoting what some doofus had written a few posts earlier...I'll go edit my original post...grrrrrrrrrrrrr[/quote]Thought you ran off and got married...You'd miss me if I did not give you a hard time...:)

ayla

Oh my.. such hostility. The one problem I see with anyone disliking christians for being judgmental, it's that to do so, one must also judge, therefore becoming just as judgemental. Religion only brings out the fundamental flaws humanity tries to hide, and we're all guilty of that.. being human.

With that said.. on to the question.

What anyone else does is their business but I'm sorry.. goats, horses, cats, pigs, dogs, llamas, whatever.. they just don't do it for me. That's just getting yourself off in it's most basest context, I don't care what kind of spin you want to put on your reasoning.

girl12

Beastiality is disgusting in my opinion. It is one of those things that you wonder....WHY?!?!?!

-Mariah

oberon

[QUOTE=Quote (Bigone666 @ Mar. 27 2005,09:48)]Thus far what I have witnesses here is a bunch of people who are homo-phobic, hetero-phobic, trans-phobic, and any other host of phobias existent. The reason in expressing this is due to the fact of their viewpoints relative to bestiality. The acceptance of this form of sexuality is entirely based on the inter-social norm. Currently, our society accepts heterosexuality, homosexuality, trans-sexuality and a few others; however, the acceptance of bestiality is not yet the accepted norm. Perhaps one future day it will be… is not society ever so slowly becoming more accepting of pedophiles in the sense that they are not now completely just shut away and shunned by society… no, now the norm is not necessarily acceptance but one of compassion in the sense that these offending individuals are suffering from some type of trauma from their own childhood that is propelling them forward in the types of deviant behavior they are exhibiting. What is to be said of the games played and lived out within the society of Sadomasochism, Bondage, Torture, Self and mutual-mutilation and the list goes on… if you don’t see it then you are not offended by it… simply the issue is… you see it now… just as was homosexuality… it was shunned and thought deeply perverse but now it has world-wide acceptance and support. Do you not see the psychosocial patterns emerging?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Quote (Jaybee @ Mar. 27 2005,14:37)]I see what he's saying.  Peado's have a burning urge to have sex with kids, no different to gays wanting to have sex with other guys, or guys wanting to have sex with nubile young women.[/QUOTE]

I strongly object to the comparison of bestiality and pedophilia with homosexuality.   There is NO comparison.

Homosexuality involves two consenting partners doing nothing that harms anyone.   The other two do not.   Bestiality and pedophilia, both, involve partners unable to give consent.  And pedophilia can have horrible psychological consequences on its victims.

Please don't try to use people's prejudice against homosexuality to justify deviations that can be harmful.

A Soldare

Call me conservaive, but keep it to your own species

I just think Ewwww.

I was once actually talking to a guy online a while back, getting to know him etc.. We talked about our pets (cuz I have several and at the time had two big dogs - my golden retriever and choc lab) and he actually asked if I would ever be willing to "do" anything with them. I was aghast! I told him they are like my children. I raised them from tiny pups and when I brought them home I vowed to do everything in my power to take care of them, feed them, get their shots, etc. So then he said he had a friend who would love to do it with my golden if I would let her. I blocked him. And sat there just filled with horror at the thought that someone could be like that!

I know there are people out there like that and I think they should be brought up on animal abuse charges. The animal cannot and does not say "yeah, let's do it!" So it's wrong, plain and simple. Taking advantage of an innocent. And anyone saying that the dog humps or whatever because of instinct can't really use that either. I'm sure you can get a young boy erect against his will, still doesn't mean you should be doing it. You have to be the adult and use the big old brain God gave you and be the smart one! geeze!

DVDBear

[QUOTE=sera300;205518]The poor dog...I hope you do not let a donkey or a horse in the house. I keep my male dogs out of the bedroom, or they sneak under the bed b/c of the noise...the female will "stare" at the act...she appears sort of confused. Cats? Will just walk on your back. As much as you appear to enjoy it; I see this as no different then using pets for fighting/entertainment. If the intent was to have sex w/a pet; why do we have members of sexual orientation? I'd rather have my spouse "doing" the neighbor then our dog....

Additionally, I have had some very large breed dogs & while giving them a dog biscuit--they tend to let it all hang out. They don't appear to be nearly as large as a human.[/QUOTE]I think St Bernards can be as large as 8", and they're one of the best endowed breeds. (I saw a chart once . . . . don't ask). I think dogs can let it hang out without it being as extended as they can be when sexually excited, so maybe you didn't see the whole thing Sera. :D
Anyway, I tend to agree the post is mostly BS. No way a dog is just going to intuitively slide it in without a lot of jumping, jabbing and poking . . . they just ain't that smooth. lol And Hard, I think you're right . . . . I seem to remember hearing this one from ages ago as either a Linda Lovelace or Hollander story, don't know which . . . . "I just bent over and he jumped on me, it was so hot . . . . ." lol!

Valerie

I think consent is the issue - on the one hand, it's not like an animal can explicity give consent. On the other hand I think that with most animals, large ones like dogs or horses, if they weren't consenting they'd show it. I think it's something you can't judge all in one go - it's a case by case thing. I know that in some cases, it might be an animal that 'makes the first move'!

After all - with humans, legally, consent is supposed to be physical and verbal. Obviously animals can't speak but that's not exactly their fault. It can be argued that they can give physical consent and I think I'd agree with that some of the time.

Doesn't really float my boat. Although there're some pretty solid literary grounds for a history of women digging the hot lion action ;-)